SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!

So about the +1 Speed from Rapid Spin, which mons look like the most likely to benefit a lot from it, outside the obvious (Excadrill)?
Tsareena maybe? The Hitmons?
 
Is it true gossifluer learns rapid spin? I havent watched the stream so i dont really know but ive heard about it on reddit. Does anyone know?
 
Polteageist's stats and movepool look really fun. Shell Smash sounds great on paper but a -1 defense Ghost is going to be annihilated by Sucker Punch/any Dark type attack. Even with a Colbur Berry, 60ish base defense sucks ass. Bisharp, Tyranitar (especially with AV), and Hydreigon will be nightmares, although running HP Fighting lets you smack Bisharp/Hydreigon pretty hard coming in. Shadow Ball/Hidden Power Fighting is pretty great coverage.

I wish Cursola had its defense and attack swapped. It's quite similar to Polteageist but slower/stronger. Please have other abilities.
 
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Wow ive missed alot the past few pages. Finally we are getting some juicy details. Hopefully we get more through eventual datamine


Im really shocked we havent seen knock off as a TR Yet, do u think they couldve removed it from the game? I really hope so because its disgustingly spammable right now so either i hope it gets a nerf or it gets removed

Polteageist getting strength sap, shell smash and stored power reeks of fakemon or cap movepool. This thing is gonna be very difficult to deal with assuming it uses shell smash + shadow ball + hpfighting + stored power. It can ignore stored power altogether and go with sub to avoid status and sucker punch mindgames vs bisharp.

Wouldve never imagine our best ghost would end up a teapot and some dragon launching its babies at us but here we are. Tbf i didnt expect a starfish to take gen 7 by storm too so i shouldnt be surprised

Cursola getting strength sap is neat, unfortunately its defense is horrendous so i cant see it get much use seeing how ghost isnt the best typing for a special wall. Only if it swapped its spd and def

In other news if cOrsola gets strength sap too its gonna be super neat in lower tiers, 65/95 with eviolite and this broken recovery is really good for a physically defensive pivot

Aegislash being nerfed doesnt matter, 20 stat points isnt enough to stop it from being disgusting, king shield is still the same too

Mr Rime getting recovery is pretty unpredictable, rapid spin + freeze dry is neat as well. I can see this being the new cryogonal in lower tiers

Toxicitry getting a new electric move is super cool, hitting sub users is always great but im more curious abt wth is its other form

Copperajah is worse melmetal, next

Falinks movepool is just as bad as i imagined it to be, still gonna be decent regardless cause of its omniboosting anyways tho

Frosmoth is literally ice volcorana, idk what i expected but still. I wish it had MORE than that cause its stab combination is pretty horrendous compared to volcoranas. Oh well at least centiskorch is always there

And finally

I did not see it coming, Chairman rose having a dad bod is very unusual but its the best thing ever
 
One thing has me a little worried. Are Gigantamax Pokemon limited to certain times or can we theoretically catch all of them day one? We know that during certain periods some will be more common. But is there always a chance of getting one of each through the game life cycle?

hypno28 said:
Yup. It looks tiny. Maybe not on the level of the pathetic excuse for a region Alola was, but tiny. They had to focus their time and energy on making the Big Pokemon and Bigger Pokemon models though. That's what's important.
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We don't know the scale so it might be large... but what gets to me is how plain the map is. Essentially a giant line up and down.
 
TheDraugr said:
Holy fuck Excadrill just got scarier!

Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker/ Sand Force for hippo
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head

My boy Corviknight better have the fucking stats on the spreadsheet. Combine this with Dynamax and its gg. plz ban g/d max
EDIT: Ninja'd
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Excadrill might be the absolute staple for hazard removal (if it isn't already) cause holy fuck that could be busted.

Assuming that Corvi screenshot was a fresh catch off of Wild Area (multiple people on here have said this), the spreadsheet stats might be the minimum. It seems to be based 31 IVs/0 EVs. (If this is wrong someone please correct me). I know that 15 IVs/60EVs each achieves the same stat spread in case the leaker made a mistake and that Corvi was actually on his team before. If that screenshot was determined to instead be 0 IVs, Corvi's stats would look like this:

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That adds up to a grand BST of 626 (!!!) That is extreme levels of broken so I highly doubt Corvi's stats are this high. It's current calculated BST of 530 is still high for a regional bird but it's not like it's completely unreasonable. In my eyes, they simply had the regional bird's BST finally match up with the starters.
 
Gen 7 Talonflame said:
Yeah but that’s like 3 Z-Moves. Some mons like Dragapult and Gyarados can easily smoke 3 mons in those turns with their power and coverage and dragon dance. Obviously we don’t really know what the meta will really be like but it really seems like whoever gets the best use of their dynamax will win a vast majority of the time. Sure you could say the same about megas and Z-Moves but this is even stronger.
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You lose your normal moves while D-Maxed in exchange for moves that grant utility secondary effects. It doesn’t grant super powerful Z-move type damage so your concerns are unlikely to be an issue. If you switch it ends immediately so if they send out a counter to your DMax Pokémon, and you have to swap, you wasted your trump card.
 
EeveeTrainer said:
im glad whoever has the game at this point has decided to utilize their time soft resetting for shiny scorbunnies
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clapyourhands said:
I like it! Usually not a huge fan of shinies but this one pulls off the "off-white" thing better than a lot of other white-colored Pokémon shinies.
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Guys, bringing sad news: the one who posted the shiny footage claimed to be fake :psysad:
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I hope the shiny gets revealed to be either gray or blue as soon some video footage or datamine rises up, it can even be a black rabbit which could be cool tho
 
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clapyourhands said:
From the stream notes I've seen on Reddit, the streamer said he made an effort to not battle any wild Pokémon beyond the mininum necessary to cross through areas, and yet the Pokémon on his team that had never even been used in a battle before still ended up levels above Bede's (the "powerful" rival) strongest Pokemon sheerly from passive leveling; the streamer's Pokemon being Levels 16-19 and Bede's being 13-15. If he evenly leveled his Pokémon rather than rely on his starter, I think his Pokémon would be in the 17-18 range, which is even worse. He would've had to drop off his entire team in the box in order to avoid this, which is quite a workaround at such an early stage in the game IMO. Of course you could also try to avoid as many trainers as possible too, but I find that avoiding both trainers and wild Pokémon kind of defeats some of the fun of playing a catching- and battling- game in the first place.
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He caught *literally* every mon he came across.

That's some grinding and a half. The level curve is still up in the air.

Thales69 said:
Did any leak show a starter gigantamax ? Also how many gigantamax in the game ?
Frankly I want them to be limited, I afraid all strategy will be lost because of it.
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Gigantamax doesn't seem to change stats. 4Chan leaker confirmed Charizard's G-Max form only increased HP.

That means Gigantamax only changes moves. That's it.

It adds a layer of choice imo, without breaking the initial idea of flexibility. Surprisingly good call from GF.

In fact, G-Max Zard is thoroughly inferior to Regular D-Max Zard unless its move's side effect also traps like Fire Spin instead of setting a Sea of Flames like the Pledge combo.
 
Volt-Ikazuchi said:
He caught *literally* every mon he came across.

That's some grinding and a half. The level curve is still up in the air.



Gigantamax doesn't seem to change stats. 4Chan leaker confirmed Charizard's G-Max form only increased HP.

That means Gigantamax only changes moves. That's it.

It adds a layer of choice imo, without breaking the initial idea of flexibility. Surprisingly good call from GF.

In fact, G-Max Zard is thoroughly inferior to Regular D-Max Zard unless its move's side effect also traps like Fire Spin instead of setting a Sea of Flames like the Pledge combo.
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Has the leaker said if you're stuck with the G-Max move or not in G-Max form? 'cus if you can choose when to use G-Max move (or it gets replaced by the normal Max Move after using it once) then G-Max Zard becomes a lot better imo.
 
Project_Mars said:
Has the leaker said if you're stuck with the G-Max move or not in G-Max form? 'cus if you can choose when to use G-Max move (or it gets replaced by the normal Max Move after using it once) then G-Max Zard becomes a lot better imo.
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No deal.

Iirc, the site entry for Corviknight explains that *all* of its flying moves turn into its G-Max Move.

You pick the Giga for the move. For better or worse.
 
clapyourhands said:
From the stream notes I've seen on Reddit, the streamer said he made an effort to not battle any wild Pokémon beyond the mininum necessary to cross through areas, and yet the Pokémon on his team that had never even been used in a battle before still ended up levels above Bede's (the "powerful" rival) strongest Pokemon sheerly from passive leveling; the streamer's Pokemon being Levels 16-19 and Bede's being 13-15. If he evenly leveled his Pokémon rather than rely on his starter, I think his Pokémon would be in the 17-18 range, which is even worse. He would've had to drop off his entire team in the box in order to avoid this, which is quite a workaround at such an early stage in the game IMO. Of course you could also try to avoid as many trainers as possible too, but I find that avoiding both trainers and wild Pokémon kind of defeats some of the fun of playing a catching- and battling- game in the first place.
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I'd like to point out that by the time he beat Nessa (2nd Gym) Bede had caught up and even surpassed him by a level or two.
 
stage7_4 said:
Speaking of small changes, are flying pokemon able to land or are they all still stuck in the air? Corviknight looks fine enough in the air but it would be nice if for all the pokemon cut for these cutting edge graphics they'd let Charizard, Noctowl, Mandibuzz, or Unfeazant rest their wings (and get a less derpy flying animation).
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Didn't see an answer for this, but the stramer was using Rookidee and it was standing on the ground and then flew to attack.

Edit: Now he has the middle evolution, and it flies the entire time.
 
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