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NOC 9p Matrix 6 Game Thread [GAME OVER]

As for the whydon vote, it's a logical good step because at this point he's just neg-util and reactionary to w/e is going on with him. I can't say I see him flipping scum at this point, but I also can't say I feel him flipping town.

Anyways, here's my readlist so you can contextualize my actions:

duskfall98: Town - He had a few pings earlier in the day and I think once day 1 ends he deserves an iso check & actual conflict but his actions so far in mid-late day 1 have solidly been building his own reads and created an incredibly natural POE I think anyone can pick up his logic on if they read. I'm wary of the former / him interactions but as I read them further I find myself less convinced of fakeness and more convinced of former reacting incredibly poorly.

Panic Station: Scumlean - I still consider my original suspicions on Panic Station to hold true. He's since backed that up by tunneling on M24 / Schiavetto and backing into a petty war which I would much rather see him do the work and break down the schiavetto slot and ISO it. The M24 lynch from him feels opportunistic and his game plan for surviving was hammering down on it once his wagon dissipated instead of providing game analysis on the other slots

Thunder~Ballz: in a 75% world, there's a 76% chance that TBZ is town. He's like whydon, but actually seems to be playing to the town wincon from what he's posted. Very light town lean.

Whydon: Null - Honestly, Whydon posts comes off as "trying but incredibly confused on how to play this" and I'm not sure if that's town mindset or scum mindset. If anyone's got a read on it mind linking it to me if you posted it / lmk

Schiavetto: Town Lean - If there is a deep wolf this game, I am 100% that it will be schiavetto. I'm like incredibly primed to just be wary of the slot since he's playing regularly and his posts so far seem to be moving content forward and I want to say he's town because of it. Interactions w/ panic, M24 and Whydon do nothing but progress his thoughts on the slot and I do like it, but I have a nagging feeling in my head that it's actually not helping town and I'm not sure why. Needs an ISO breakdown in day 2 because they're not a good day 1 lynch.

M24: :/... :\... Null: Unlike whydon's null read, M24's null comes from a place where I can't get a full grasp on his mindset. I think he's done a lot of scummy actions this game, but those actions read as new!messy instead of new!scummy and it leads to a lot less surety than I'd like from him. Something I want to see from M24 is to really get into the me vs schiavetto 50/50 he's had and try and figure out which of us it is for himself - essentially solidify your stances on your reads and I think we'll get somewhere w/ this slot.

Former: Scum: I'm a fair bit less sure of this one than I was yesterday when I parked this vote, but he has been omgus reading ppl on him (See: me / dusk), and I think my gaslighting take still rings true. That being said, I don't think he's informed of gamestate as others are (he did take a well-deserved break!) and that can inform his actions. This is another slot that I plan on doing an ISO breakdown of because I do not think I'll be able to move forward on without it.

CaffeineBoost: Neutral: He gave me a solid town!ping early day 1, but has consistently drifted further downwards since then. When making this readslist I actually forgot about him because he has stopped feeling like a part of the game, and I think he's begun to coast. Want some proper content from him.

OM: Static: it's my pfp :)
 
OM said:
As for the whydon vote, it's a logical good step because at this point he's just neg-util and reactionary to w/e is going on with him. I can't say I see him flipping scum at this point, but I also can't say I feel him flipping town.

Anyways, here's my readlist so you can contextualize my actions:

duskfall98: Town - He had a few pings earlier in the day and I think once day 1 ends he deserves an iso check & actual conflict but his actions so far in mid-late day 1 have solidly been building his own reads and created an incredibly natural POE I think anyone can pick up his logic on if they read. I'm wary of the former / him interactions but as I read them further I find myself less convinced of fakeness and more convinced of former reacting incredibly poorly.

Panic Station: Scumlean - I still consider my original suspicions on Panic Station to hold true. He's since backed that up by tunneling on M24 / Schiavetto and backing into a petty war which I would much rather see him do the work and break down the schiavetto slot and ISO it. The M24 lynch from him feels opportunistic and his game plan for surviving was hammering down on it once his wagon dissipated instead of providing game analysis on the other slots

Thunder~Ballz: in a 75% world, there's a 76% chance that TBZ is town. He's like whydon, but actually seems to be playing to the town wincon from what he's posted. Very light town lean.

Whydon: Null - Honestly, Whydon posts comes off as "trying but incredibly confused on how to play this" and I'm not sure if that's town mindset or scum mindset. If anyone's got a read on it mind linking it to me if you posted it / lmk

Schiavetto: Town Lean - If there is a deep wolf this game, I am 100% that it will be schiavetto. I'm like incredibly primed to just be wary of the slot since he's playing regularly and his posts so far seem to be moving content forward and I want to say he's town because of it. Interactions w/ panic, M24 and Whydon do nothing but progress his thoughts on the slot and I do like it, but I have a nagging feeling in my head that it's actually not helping town and I'm not sure why. Needs an ISO breakdown in day 2 because they're not a good day 1 lynch.

M24: :/... :\... Null: Unlike whydon's null read, M24's null comes from a place where I can't get a full grasp on his mindset. I think he's done a lot of scummy actions this game, but those actions read as new!messy instead of new!scummy and it leads to a lot less surety than I'd like from him. Something I want to see from M24 is to really get into the me vs schiavetto 50/50 he's had and try and figure out which of us it is for himself - essentially solidify your stances on your reads and I think we'll get somewhere w/ this slot.

Former: Scum: I'm a fair bit less sure of this one than I was yesterday when I parked this vote, but he has been omgus reading ppl on him (See: me / dusk), and I think my gaslighting take still rings true. That being said, I don't think he's informed of gamestate as others are (he did take a well-deserved break!) and that can inform his actions. This is another slot that I plan on doing an ISO breakdown of because I do not think I'll be able to move forward on without it.

CaffeineBoost: Neutral: He gave me a solid town!ping early day 1, but has consistently drifted further downwards since then. When making this readslist I actually forgot about him because he has stopped feeling like a part of the game, and I think he's begun to coast. Want some proper content from him.

OM: Static: it's my pfp :)
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I think at this point anyone at a town lean or neutral / null I don't want to lynch here. I think annoying whydon to give us info is a good gameplan that will move town further.

As such, Whydon to go off your Tommy read, how do you feel on the former / him interactions? What are your thoughts on the former slot?

Also, have you read the schiavetto / panic interactions? Any thoughts on that? (Just your first take is fine with these long as they answer the questions)

Thunder~BALLZ if you exist, thoughts on the whydon lynch & could you expand on your thoughts on the former slot? Also do your usual game state reads please :)
 
Votecount 1.4

Whydon (3) - Schiavetto, M24, Duskfall98
M24 (1) - CaffeineBoost
CaffeineBoost (1) - Thunder~BALLZ
Former (1) - OM
Duskfall98 (1) - Former
Schiavetto (1) - Panic Station

Not Voting (1) - Whydon

Day ends in 7 hours, 57 minutes :heart: If I made any errors, please let me know!
 
OM said:
Former: Scum: I'm a fair bit less sure of this one than I was yesterday when I parked this vote, but he has been omgus reading ppl on him (See: me / dusk), and I think my gaslighting take still rings true. That being said, I don't think he's informed of gamestate as others are (he did take a well-deserved break!) and that can inform his actions. This is another slot that I plan on doing an ISO breakdown of because I do not think I'll be able to move forward on without it.
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You do know that OMGUS isn't alignment indicative right? If you do, why are you using it to justify a read :blobthinking:

I'm also generally well informed of game state. It's just the way I play D1 as town. I act super scattered because I'm really looking to force people to make content. Then I like to go back and look at all those scattered pieces and thoughts and build comprehensive reads off of them.
 
Former said:
You do know that OMGUS isn't alignment indicative right? If you do, why are you using it to justify a read :blobthinking:

I'm also generally well informed of game state. It's just the way I play D1 as town. I act super scattered because I'm really looking to force people to make content. Then I like to go back and look at all those scattered pieces and thoughts and build comprehensive reads off of them.
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a constant pattern of scumreading people who are lynching you with fairly weak reasoning is scummy.
 
OM said:
M24: :/... :\... Null: Unlike whydon's null read, M24's null comes from a place where I can't get a full grasp on his mindset. I think he's done a lot of scummy actions this game, but those actions read as new!messy instead of new!scummy and it leads to a lot less surety than I'd like from him. Something I want to see from M24 is to really get into the me vs schiavetto 50/50 he's had and try and figure out which of us it is for himself - essentially solidify your stances on your reads and I think we'll get somewhere w/ this slot.
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Right now, i think my 50/50's shifted to me majorly thinking it's schia.

This is mainly due to you condeming former, and I've scrolled through the thread and found no notes of schia really commenting anything on former...

Schiavetto that said, what are your thoughts on the former slot?
 
Current opinions on current events:

Whydon wagon is weird, overall I understand the mindset those on the wagon have but I am a bit skeptical since this doesn't usually happen w/ Whydon...

I remember seeing one Former post which pinged me at some point. If I can be arsed to iso (though previous precedent has said I can't) then I'll have a look at Former.

OM's probably town from the readlist. OM does bring up PS's tunnelling on M24 which makes me less confident on my vote on M24. I still think that M24's actions are very likely to come from new scum but I've been wrong about this before.

Unvote

idfk any more, OM and Dusk are probably town, PS and M24 are still likely to be scum but aren't both scum.
 
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