NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

I am in absolute awe at what happened. Remind me to ask Hal at the end of the game if he was lying because he thought he had a sure read on HH. I would've questioned him about it but he's a little bit on the dead side so I think I'll just leave him be.

Spiderz I had a read of the thread while it was night time. Could you elaborate on your stance of M2H? It seemed as if you were tunneling them without actually voting them so I'm a bit unsure as to what you think about them. Also if you could, mind posting a list of reads for convenience?

Yeah give me a sec I'll clarify
 
Hal just died and I'm wondering of the public poster takes requests.

Idr much about your playstyle, other than the unlucky run-in I had when you were tracker/watcher and I was claiming the other one as scum. I don't know how much mileage I'll get out of asking this but where's your head at?
I'm more curious about the Hydro flip than Apricity's death in regards to the kill priority part.

Apricity seemed like the person on the cusp of leading the village so him being offed first makes sense.
 
I’m at work so can’t post much but first reactions are:
1. Still can’t believe that angle shoot was wrong it was so clean
2. Do we seriously not have a Bg? Because who were you protecting if not Apricity there

Anyway I’ll have to go back and review Apricity’s and Hydrogen’s reads and relationships day 1 in light of the flips. I’d suggest others also do so.

- Friendly neighborhood hydra
 
Can you get anything from the Hydro flip other than "Hal was fucking wrong"?
Yeah, the fact that there are unkillable people that will inherit a kill is very odd to me since it implies that there are players that are just outright unkillable and the goal for hydro is to get a vig passed onto them or both.

Not to mention that stealing all night results is a very odd thing to have as a village to say the least.
 
I am in absolute awe at what happened. Remind me to ask Hal at the end of the game if he was lying because he thought he had a sure read on HH. I would've questioned him about it but he's a little bit on the dead side so I think I'll just leave him be.

Spiderz I had a read of the thread while it was night time. Could you elaborate on your stance of M2H? It seemed as if you were tunneling them without actually voting them so I'm a bit unsure as to what you think about them. Also if you could, mind posting a list of reads for convenience?

I'll post my reads in a sec but anyways a large part of my playstyle esp day one is trying to hammer down on things that are wrong rather than scum indicative in order to get reactions from the said person because wrong=/=scum but the way they respond to that pressure is telling to me, I don't know why M2H was so willing to TR me and dismiss my points, I still think his townread on you was stupid and like actually scummy, but he isn't my top scumread because while he neglected to talk about most things I pressured him on, he did seem focused on moving discussion forward from after. Usually when people take the position of "this player is town but is wrong" and dismissed everything I say abt them I find it more scum indicative but idt he really took the position that I was wrong and was more like "lets move on already" which I have mixed feelings on??? Overall he's a scumlean for me but read is still developing and there is more I want to say but I don't want him to change his behavior based on what I am going to say if that makes sense
 
Yeah, the fact that there are unkillable people that will inherit a kill is very odd to me since it implies that there are players that are just outright unkillable and the goal for hydro is to get a vig passed onto them or both.

Not to mention that stealing all night results is a very odd thing to have as a village to say the least.
agree that this ability is very weird

i'll iso hydrogenhydreigon later but did he give any sort of indication on how he even found said "old game"

i think the ability is weird enough that we cant dismiss the possibility of a framer or similar ability at play here
 
Yeah, the fact that there are unkillable people that will inherit a kill is very odd to me since it implies that there are players that are just outright unkillable and the goal for hydro is to get a vig passed onto them or both.

Not to mention that stealing all night results is a very odd thing to have as a village to say the least.
Agree massively on the 2nd point, though I don't get what you mean by people being unkillable.
Also it implies to me that there are no info roles on the town side and/or we lack a vig of any sort.

The abilities themselves just seem very odd to me and not town in the slightest.
I think the possibility of a vig is still open, given that at least one town member can suggest a player to kill. Perhaps the vigilante is the one who's stuck with whomever is on the list? I also wouldn't put it past Dusk entirely to give us info roles when there's a results stealer. Hal's flip is perhaps proof of this.

I meant more what you could gather from HH's flip as far as your stance on other people go though.
 
vote hydrogenhydreigon

i feel like this is super weird lol, but also I feel like it's impossible for hal to lie about something to this degree unless he's 400 IQ. In which case, we can just vote for hal another night.

also great salad M2H!! and "virginity rules/rocks" got popularized by a youtuber but it began as a anti-puritan response to religious people using the phrase unironically

so i spent the night trying to glimpse through what happened and this post just like rang my alarm bell? Idk personally this sounds really scummy and idk why ill probably give better reasoning when im less sleepy. Also i see that we already have a dyo wagon??? Not sure if related to this or what but that’s my thought from reading over night
 
I’m at work so can’t post much but first reactions are:
1. Still can’t believe that angle shoot was wrong it was so clean
2. Do we seriously not have a Bg? Because who were you protecting if not Apricity there

Anyway I’ll have to go back and review Apricity’s and Hydrogen’s reads and relationships day 1 in light of the flips. I’d suggest others also do so.

- Friendly neighborhood hydra
i’m thinking bg had no idea who to protect
 
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