NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Laurel said:
You’re focusing on one particular event and voting me to POE but I never no kill.

You’re really not helping your case I was fine to vote Sam as well.

honestly, the reason I’m not scum is the same reason I think you are scum.

you’re trying way too hard this game lol. i know a town cel probably doesn’t care this much xox
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OK good to know you're voting me for no reason then lmao

Is DLE scum bc town DLE doesn't care this much too? :P

I have a v good commitment to mafia games so this isn't even valid meta
 
Celever said:
OK good to know you're voting me for no reason then lmao

Is DLE scum bc town DLE doesn't care this much too? :P

I have a v good commitment to mafia games so this isn't even valid meta
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bro you’re reads and walls of text make no sense

I’m town so I know how I am trying to process the game and we’re on totally different wave lengths.

to me you’re trying to force yourself to think like you’re town
 
Laurel said:
bro you’re reads and walls of text make no sense

I’m town so I know how I am trying to process the game and we’re on totally different wave lengths.

to me you’re trying to force yourself to think like you’re town
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Your case is I'm being intentionally dumb to pretend I'm town? Bc lol

We just do operate on different wavelengths ig, I'd agree with that since your reads haven't changed since the game started lol
 
Celever said:
Your case is I'm being intentionally dumb to pretend I'm town? Bc lol

We just do operate on different wavelengths ig, I'd agree with that since your reads haven't changed since the game started lol
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i operate off my gut and patterns, nothing has dramatically changed since today and day 1.

i do think whydon might have been bussing dyo based on new information but that’s about it.

Tho the two best flips for town are you and Sam which is why I wanted Dyo to confirm if he knew Cloud’s alignment before I pushed this
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
who are your top 3 scum reads and why
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ive said this.

celever - he makes no sense. random walls of text that aren’t coherent and the logic consistenty falls apart
sam - his posts seem forced and not inherently pro-town - like he is faking town
shadowpea - random outburst the other day, is here but not contributing.

if i assume shadowpea’s behavior is just noob town

Dyo - i doubt there is a town rolecop that doesn’t get guilty/not guilty
 
like i'm townreading celever pretty heavily, what specifically is making you scum read him? i saw his post before about the night kill analysis not making sense but something being incoherent doesnt mean its scummy in and of itself, depends on if its agenda driven or just bad reasoning. you're saying he's scum but i'm not seeing much of an effort from you to actually push a lynch on him
 
Spiderz said:
I think the hal inspect night 1 is a complete lie his partners told him to say for people to say "oh dyo can't be scum if he inspected hal night 1!!!!" it doesn't make any sense lol, and his logic was that he was following Hal's guide or whatever but hal said to inspect people you are null on...
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i was confused on this too and i think its because hal specified for "alignment cop" and "rolecop" the latter being what i believe is what dyo is claiming. here are his guides for each role
apricity said:
Alignment cop: use cops on people you have no read on, who might also be useful to know the alignment of. so don’t use cops on people who are heavily SR’d. You’re looking for guilties on people who might coast for a long time

Rolecop: Instead of caring about your own reads like you would as an alignment cop, go for who you think is globally scumread. You’re essentially trying to keep ahead of the lynch train. If someone is getting lynched soon, you would expect them to claim as they get run up. Sometimes scum can claim something like town doctor or cop to at least flush out a counterclaim before you die. But you’re a rolecop. You’re fucking useless. So if the wagon starts getting pushed off, you can at the worst case come out with a counterclaim so that the real cop/dr can stay hidden. Ideally you don’t claim, and just try to influence the wagon.
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dyo is arguing that he targeted hal believing that his misread on hydro made him very scummy, and rolecopped him to do exactly what hal says here. i think?
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
like i'm townreading celever pretty heavily, what specifically is making you scum read him? i saw his post before about the night kill analysis not making sense but something being incoherent doesnt mean its scummy in and of itself, depends on if its agenda driven or just bad reasoning. you're saying he's scum but i'm not seeing much of an effort from you to actually push a lynch on him
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perhaps my own bias makes me assume that someone that is town won’t be thinking the way he is because if is so different than the way I am processing things
 
Laurel said:
why do you think m2h is scum exactly?
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agenda push on me, fired hard against me for activity d1, kept progressing from a push to a weak scum read to etc etc to a hard scum against basically no content, then tried a push to get me lynched for activity hours before a time i'd publicly committed time to the game, i believe they were trying to push an easy mislynch on me before i had a chance to become a presence
 
im giving up on tiermaker its not working for some reason lel but this means i have to type D:

HT:
spiderz -honestly just gives me a town vibe. i liked his d2 and that he was part of the discussion, interacted, etc. his argument as whydon honestly struck me as town because scum prolly wont unnecessarily draw attention to themselves like that.
psy
nuxl
clouds/drookez/texas because roles

ST:
celever - despite what a lot of ppl are saying celever is still being very helpful in a towny sort of way. the post that yall dismissed as bad and illogical shows this for me. hes trying to help. maybe not well, but its much easier to see a townie making that kind of post than a scum
whydon
realiti
ryodio - good tone and vibe and basically psy but softer/less certain
sam - his d1 sucked thats a fact but d2 and today hes been solvy and helpful and everything. of course this could be scum covering self but ive not been getting any bad vibes or anything (sorry if im relyiing on vibes too much idk how to read people too much besides gut feelings, and ive got nothing on meta cuz its my first game lol im going off of what yall say in terms of meta)

i do think i gotta read a bit more about this persons:
m2h

neutral:
DEL
everyone not talking/i didnt mention
ayia
caff
yeti lmao

SS:
vizh - sounds quite nervous and uncomfortable idk maybe because hes new like me but ive not been getting the same energy im gettting from psy and i think everyone else can agree
dave - talked about this
dyo - his claim & behavior that everyone went over 9999 times already


man:
sificon legit the easiest role to win as ever lmao if i just keep doing what i do and stay low profile yall would know that you cant stop me or someone acting like me. unless rbed its a free n4 win, sificon just drew too much attention to themself for doing too much of nothing and then his sub legit just claimed arsonist lmao/
this completely low effort post is gonna get me sussed me fast but icba to make it better rn
and vote dave
just as likely to hop onto the dyo wagon tho
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
agenda push on me, fired hard against me for activity d1, kept progressing from a push to a weak scum read to etc etc to a hard scum against basically no content, then tried a push to get me lynched for activity hours before a time i'd publicly committed time to the game, i believe they were trying to push an easy mislynch on me before i had a chance to become a presence
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you are just straight up downplaying how scummy your game has been. I get you’re mad I forced you to enter the thread but pushing me here on what is essentially an omgus read (when I’m far from the only one that has scum read your slot) is just laughable and if you’re town here you need to actually do your due diligence.

especially considering I’ve already flavor claimed nuxl and claimed power role (not saying what, but it’s a big role), you continuing to push me here is just bad play generally. If you want me gone at this point you’re going to have to night kill me.
 
Laurel said:
i operate off my gut and patterns, nothing has dramatically changed since today and day 1.

i do think whydon might have been bussing dyo based on new information but that’s about it.

Tho the two best flips for town are you and Sam which is why I wanted Dyo to confirm if he knew Cloud’s alignment before I pushed this
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Why do you think the two best flips for town are me and Sam? I acc think I disagree but I'll say who gives more info after your response
 
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