i also want to revisit the haruno kill quickly - when Celever instantly claimed my read on US being sus for that had bad logic (which it did), and instantly jumped to defend with a few brief paragraphs on why it would be dumb for US to ever make that kill, it displayed he'd already made a ton of considerations about why someone might make the kill etc. so yeah i can see him possibly being responsible there. that could also just be called being a helpful town member!
the reason i'm not physically voting cel right now is because of how much pressure he's gotten from well over half the game in a game that likely has 6+ scum/third party left in it. and i can see some of the tonal concerns i've had being misconstrued because of cel's natural ability to come off a little shadier/more sus than other town. aside from that i'm up to consider it but not until we've addressed some of the players sliding by without getting sr'd when they've had questionable posts
the drookez push doesn't sit well with me because:
- what mafia with a motivator doesn't just motivate within mafia? sure he could use it to try and pocket me, i won't rule that out of the equation (especially if he picked up on the modpost being me just based on what i wrote n2, and so he knew the motivate would be harmless)
- if he's third party and has a role designed to allow him to pose as a town, ok cool.. we should still focus scum today no? maybe i misunderstand the costs/benefits of voting a third party at this night in the game
aside from that i understand most of the rest of what you're saying, and it's unlikely all of you/spiderz/nuxl are scum together which is.. something. i should also respond to this:
you're right, i didn't consider the possibility of it being a potential teammate claiming the role, so my bad there. i still think it's dyo himself, i'm just becoming less confident he ever actively claims a rolecop as scum when it's a scummy role, surely his mafia team keeps him from doing that yeah?
also since flavor is role-relevant i'm pretty sure we can rule out the teammate possibility by me asking hey Dyo what's your role flavor? (sorry if i missed an earlier claim)
as far as vote i won't vote any of dle, drookez, m2h, ryo, psy, and probably caff/texas/realiti at this point as well, as these players are the most town in my eyes. i'm sure there will wind up at least being a scum or two there, but def not voting unless some development occurs that's strong enough to suggest one of them is likely scum
the reason i'm not physically voting cel right now is because of how much pressure he's gotten from well over half the game in a game that likely has 6+ scum/third party left in it. and i can see some of the tonal concerns i've had being misconstrued because of cel's natural ability to come off a little shadier/more sus than other town. aside from that i'm up to consider it but not until we've addressed some of the players sliding by without getting sr'd when they've had questionable posts
think the Dave / Drookez cases are stronger.
the drookez push doesn't sit well with me because:
- what mafia with a motivator doesn't just motivate within mafia? sure he could use it to try and pocket me, i won't rule that out of the equation (especially if he picked up on the modpost being me just based on what i wrote n2, and so he knew the motivate would be harmless)
- if he's third party and has a role designed to allow him to pose as a town, ok cool.. we should still focus scum today no? maybe i misunderstand the costs/benefits of voting a third party at this night in the game
aside from that i understand most of the rest of what you're saying, and it's unlikely all of you/spiderz/nuxl are scum together which is.. something. i should also respond to this:
- The lack of mafia kill is pointing out suspicious targeting on Dyo's part for two separate nights. It's not hard evidence in the slightest, to be clear, and how is Dyo a 'proven role cop' (which btw is a pretty common mafia role anyway even if that is his role?). It could easily be a teammate with that role (or a full inspector role), and M2H already pointed out the possibility that the mafia tried and failed to kill him which would've given Dyo an out by saying 'oh my result was a fail'
you're right, i didn't consider the possibility of it being a potential teammate claiming the role, so my bad there. i still think it's dyo himself, i'm just becoming less confident he ever actively claims a rolecop as scum when it's a scummy role, surely his mafia team keeps him from doing that yeah?
also since flavor is role-relevant i'm pretty sure we can rule out the teammate possibility by me asking hey Dyo what's your role flavor? (sorry if i missed an earlier claim)
as far as vote i won't vote any of dle, drookez, m2h, ryo, psy, and probably caff/texas/realiti at this point as well, as these players are the most town in my eyes. i'm sure there will wind up at least being a scum or two there, but def not voting unless some development occurs that's strong enough to suggest one of them is likely scum