NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

For the last time, I AM NOT A THIRD PARTY OH MY GOD WHY WOULD WOLF HAVE A MOTIVATOR AND AN EMPOWER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Dave is also an extreme compromise vote and I just don't really buy into him having a high chance of flipping scum tbh. It's certainly possible and he's far from a hard townread, but a reasonably strong townlean. But I townleaned him early D1 when no one else did, sorta pushed him due to inactivity and lack of opportunity cost, and now that he's posted (a couple times) today it just does not read scum to me. He's not being particularly useful but my gut still says it's ml
Day 4.3 Votecount

Dave
(1): Celever
Huh?
 
Day 4.3 Votecount
Celever
(3): Caffeineboost, realiti, Drookez
Dyo (2): M2h, dave
Drookez (2): Texas Cloverleaf, UncleSam
Nuxl (1): Clouds
M2H (1): Da Letter El
Dave (1): Celever

Not Voting (8): Dyo, Nuxl, Psypsypsypsypsythe, Ryo, shadowpea, Spiderz, Vizh, Whydon

Deadline: 2 hours 45 minutes to deadline https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/roadtrip?day=28&hour=00&min=00&sec=00&p0=78&font=cursive&csz=1

10 to hammer.
i unvoted off of m2h (although this doesnt change much)
 
yeah i’ve lost the through line a bit, it’s difficult to distinguish what are actual helpful posts and points of view because everyone seems to have a very different idea of who’s slinging the most weight/has the upper hand at any given moment.

thread-contribution seems to change hands so often that each hivemind ends up not really agreeing with the other until a panic vote choice has been made (refer back to my prev post about redir from Dyo to Laurel, then implicating Drookez as instrumental in that, but then there was more distracting dialogue about Ryo/Dyo)

and i’m just not sure i follow anymore, the role density in this game certainly hasn’t helped, the faction split REALLY didn’t help… and i’ve just about read everything in this mf thread lol
 
I would like you to explain all of that
Three hours to deadline and I’m off my lunch break now. I think we need to coalesce at this point around two options so we can have people make an EOD choice.

I don’t think Celever should be the shot here, he’s too responsive and active to randshoot here when we have a lot of unhelpful / idle people out there still (who btw have not gotten mod killed suspiciously, so they’re doing SOMETHING...). I always want to shoot between Dave and Drookez here because I’m pretty sure this is just mafia v wolf and I want to force the mafia to out themselves to save Dave and vote Drookez, but I’ll review when I’m back and do my part to help avoid a tie.

- friendly hydra
I'm testing Sam's theory in this post

I like Clouds' case on Eli and have had an instinct that Eli is scum for a lot of this day. Open unwillingness to vote him despite people shading him for a lot of the game is the primary reason for me. I get it in terms of "he's active and helpful so we should keep him", I also had that mindset, but IIRC realiti and Caff have said that about Eli and are voting me so if Eli is scum that implicates both of them a decent amount.

Personally I think Caff and Eli are scumbuds. That's just me though.
 
The meaning of Wagonomics and also reasoning behind Nuxl
wagonomics is wagon economics, I.E. the dynamics behind votes. Like if loads of people pile onto a target all at once, few people are willing to keep them around and it implies they're town. If all your TRs are voting someone, there's a higher chance they're scum. That sorta thing
 
yeah i’ve lost the through line a bit, it’s difficult to distinguish what are actual helpful posts and points of view because everyone seems to have a very different idea of who’s slinging the most weight/has the upper hand at any given moment.

thread-contribution seems to change hands so often that each hivemind ends up not really agreeing with the other until a panic vote choice has been made (refer back to my prev post about redir from Dyo to Laurel, then implicating Drookez as instrumental in that, but then there was more distracting dialogue about Ryo/Dyo)

and i’m just not sure i follow anymore, the role density in this game certainly hasn’t helped, the faction split REALLY didn’t help… and i’ve just about read everything in this mf thread lol
You've read the entire thread at this point? Honestly impressed

Who would you like to vote?
 
I'm testing Sam's theory in this post

I like Clouds' case on Eli and have had an instinct that Eli is scum for a lot of this day. Open unwillingness to vote him despite people shading him for a lot of the game is the primary reason for me. I get it in terms of "he's active and helpful so we should keep him", I also had that mindset, but IIRC realiti and Caff have said that about Eli and are voting me so if Eli is scum that implicates both of them a decent amount.

Personally I think Caff and Eli are scumbuds. That's just me though.
So you think scumteam is Caff / Nuxl / Realiti? I could see that actually.

Has there been any case where any of these three has pushed onto another? I am on a phone and too lazy to iso but if someone else could I’d appreciate it ^_^

- friendly hydra
 
clouds’ nuxl vote doesn’t make sense to me, but i don’t see a reason currently to stay on Dyo so i’ll

unvote

and since i’ve also not been given a reason to actually hard tr drookez i’m sticking with my gut

vote Drookez

continuing to be more convinced that caff/real/m2h are town, still disoriented by unclesam and dle’s position, and gaslit by celever leaning town but still voting me so i’ll flip that vote if the wagon is on celever but otherwise letting that ride for now
 
So you think scumteam is Caff / Nuxl / Realiti? I could see that actually.

Has there been any case where any of these three has pushed onto another? I am on a phone and too lazy to iso but if someone else could I’d appreciate it ^_^

- friendly hydra
I'm not so bold as to say scumteam is Caff / Nuxl / realiti but I think 2 out of those 3 are scum together

But I'm clearly not in an adequate state of mind to try and read realiti at all bc he's tunnelled me all game because of my personality so I would like him dead regardless of alignment in turn
 
clouds’ nuxl vote doesn’t make sense to me, but i don’t see a reason currently to stay on Dyo so i’ll

unvote

and since i’ve also not been given a reason to actually hard tr drookez i’m sticking with my gut

vote Drookez

continuing to be more convinced that caff/real/m2h are town, still disoriented by unclesam and dle’s position, and gaslit by celever leaning town but still voting me so i’ll flip that vote if the wagon is on celever but otherwise letting that ride for now

Are you sure this is your gut read that im actually mafia and not "oh my god unclesam is deciding between myself and Drookez better take the intiative and vote him first"? Because that leads to multiple questions such as a) have you ever made a post detailing on why you think im mafia/trying to get more information from me? b) why are you limiting your choices to just me?
 
clouds’ nuxl vote doesn’t make sense to me, but i don’t see a reason currently to stay on Dyo so i’ll

unvote

and since i’ve also not been given a reason to actually hard tr drookez i’m sticking with my gut

vote Drookez

continuing to be more convinced that caff/real/m2h are town, still disoriented by unclesam and dle’s position, and gaslit by celever leaning town but still voting me so i’ll flip that vote if the wagon is on celever but otherwise letting that ride for now
What don't you like about Clouds' Nuxl vote?
 
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