NOC eli loves matrices game thread [Game Over, Town Win!]

this isn't directed @ anyone in particular although if you're paying attention you can probably see what prompted it but

Broadly Speaking

i think reads of the form "such and such is awkward" (or relatedly, "hem and haw is underwhelming") are dumb & more often than not flimsy stand-ins that just bail the player out of having to make more precise determinations and Actually Say What's going on
I think this post is very awkward
 
Elaborate on Celever & give me a gut impression of Caff's vote on M24, who has yet to post?
Celever is both acting like they would be based on my limited town meta (Big Mafia), he’s also actually trying to have a convo that goes somewhere (mainly the Psy convo, which did generate content).

Caff’s vote feels null? I still think it’s kinda pointless because theres a low chance it turns into an actual wagon, but I don’t think it’s alignment indicative.


Also kinda unrelated but HH is in fact posting more and becoming somewhat of a presence. But it’s also all bad posting, which feels as though it’s posting for posting’s sake, in response to realiti’s read/vote.
 
Hey, that survey from before struck a chord with me, and I wanted to explore it further.
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Could everyone answer me these questions 3?
1: If you were mafia, who would you kill and why?
2: Who do you think the mafia is most likely to kill and why?
3: What... is your favorite color?

My answers:
1: Celever, in the hopes of then triggering a misvote on Psy (yeah, he seems to be acting similarly to last game where he was town, so I TR him)
2: Lady Salamence or Vizh for having a clear head, since the Celever -> Psy thing feels unlikely, despite being the interaction I've most noticed.
3: Blue

Anyway, Celever v Psy feels TvT so Unvote.

Bonus: What's the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
 
Q1. What do you enjoy about mafia?

Q2. What do you like/dislike about rolling town?

Q3. What do you like/dislike about rolling wolf?

Q4. Who's your favorite artist and why should I listen to them?

Q5. Do you think your mom would be a good wolf?
1. It gives me forced social interaction and sometimes I feel really isolated so it’s nice to talk to people and have funny interactions and (for the most part) work for a common goal.

2. Town is generally fun because it especially helps me get the wider more fun less stressful social interaction, but it also just can be very frustrating when people don’t believe you (ala have a RB as Town lmao).

3. The feeling of pulling over a lie makes me feel smart, but it’s also very stressful throughout the game. During Big Mafia I was constantly being coached in one way or another because I was nervous.

4. Dayglow, they have a good vibe, and their discography is small enough to get through it in a good time. I recommend Close to You since it’s my favorite.

5. No, she’s a terrible liar and could not keep up with either the slang or the thread content lmao.
 
TOWN
hydro - its hydro
aura - see post directly above
tbz - obviously

NULL
laurel - something tells me laurel isnt going to be keeping to what he said about being active despite his rand
om - in my poe
caff - maybe a small scum lean im still sensing something different with caff this game
realiti - feels like normal unpolarized realiti. i kinda wonder if his disengagement today is him trying to hide

SCUM
schia - its schia
celever - fumbling over his reasoning in an unnatural way
vizh - just doesnt seem real to me

this is the first time i think my scum tier has ever actually had the number of scum there are in the game in it and not been twice the size. am i getting better at mafia?
 
I've got work atm but my current feel w/o any proper iso'ing is that Laurel, Psy, and Schia are likely town, LS is my scum candidate. Null on everyone else but I probably have enough info to get an idea (or at least an informed null) on most people.
 
Good morning :sphearical:

Hey, that survey from before struck a chord with me, and I wanted to explore it further.
.
Could everyone answer me these questions 3?
1: If you were mafia, who would you kill and why?
2: Who do you think the mafia is most likely to kill and why?
3: What... is your favorite color?

My answers:
1: Celever, in the hopes of then triggering a misvote on Psy (yeah, he seems to be acting similarly to last game where he was town, so I TR him)
2: Lady Salamence or Vizh for having a clear head, since the Celever -> Psy thing feels unlikely, despite being the interaction I've most noticed.
3: Blue

Anyway, Celever v Psy feels TvT so Unvote.

Bonus: What's the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
First of all I think questions like this are usually somewhat fruitless in modern mafia because reading into the NK is so WIFOMy that it has basically lost all value. Especially on N1, mafia will inevitably almost always just kill the player who they know is town (obviously) and who they foresee having the least misvote capital moving forward. That won't really be properly determined until N1 because it depends on factors such as how willing to be led the town are (if we are a sheepy town, and Schia is town, Schia is probably the optimal N1 kill) but as soon as you launch into "well if mafia try to kill someone ELSE then we might think it's Schia" the whole exercise loses its value.

1. If I were mafia I would kill Vizh. In my opinion they have been (relatively, it's D1) extremely towny and out of all of the relatively low posters have progressed the game the most, in a way that doesn't have much of a pre-determined direction. Therefore I think they have pretty slim misvote potential this game if current thread dynamics keep up, which they won't but still. Plus, obviously, in the hypothetical where I'm mafia and killing town!Vizh the fact Vizh has townread me so far is good in a WIFOM way for probably half of D2 before everyone forgets about it.

2. The other option to question 1 which I'm gonna throw here instead is that if mafia are really on it and M24 is town, then screw it kill M24 if they don't show up, right? Prevents the possibility of Tommy or Hal subbing into the slot, both of whom are scary town players (and maybe also oden I am unfamiliar with them). This option is good for information control considering Tommy or Hal would definitely provide information through their usual playstyles.

3. Purple :3
 
TOWN
hydro - its hydro
aura - see post directly above
tbz - obviously

NULL
laurel - something tells me laurel isnt going to be keeping to what he said about being active despite his rand
om - in my poe
caff - maybe a small scum lean im still sensing something different with caff this game
realiti - feels like normal unpolarized realiti. i kinda wonder if his disengagement today is him trying to hide

SCUM
schia - its schia
celever - fumbling over his reasoning in an unnatural way
vizh - just doesnt seem real to me

this is the first time i think my scum tier has ever actually had the number of scum there are in the game in it and not been twice the size. am i getting better at mafia?
Please explain exactly why your reasoning for town is something that is indicative of those players being town, and the same for your scum. Not one of these rationales is alignment indicative.
 
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