NOC Smalltown Hotel Mafia - Game Thread (MAFIA WINS)

Meh I know it's lame to suggest but IMO I really think our best course of action is to vote based on roles. I'm confused no one is really even talking about this or thinking about how to best divert our actions.

Do the twins know each other's alignment? I'm assuming no.

Roles I think we should consider voting today
Doublevoter - this role for me has massive negative value for TOWN if it's mafia...someone can run the math but this basically takes us from 3 ml to 2ml assuming no blocks, which we can't assume. Positive value is it gives us extra vote at 3-3 but that's a marginal gain because we only get to 3-3 if blocking roles succeed so we should have info regardless.

Fruit vendor - I don't see any positive value TOWN gets from this role. Minor value in checking people do what they say but that's doable thru other means. Can use fruit vend ability to stop redirector from redirecting kill in late game scenario.

1-shot gladiator - this role has no real game impact as far as I can tell. It's bad on mafia and bad on village unless they hit mafia which is luck. too many other roles have ways to help us so no thanks.

1-shot poisoner - this has marginal town impact and is dangerous in that it ends the game after a 2nd ml without anyone knowing. Let's say we ML @ 6-3 to go to 5-3, they used the kill the previous night and the game is over. Pretty aligned with doublevoter in that sense.


Roles I don't think we should bother targeting TODAY
redirector - this is the strongest role in the game BUT it's seriously nerfed because they can't redirect the twins. So I'm not sure if it's as good as bus driver in this setup since it can't stop a game ending kill. Doesn't really help mafia since we can CONTROL THE TARGETS

bus driver - similar to redirect BUT can redirect mafia kill onto them with luck. we can also CONTROL THE TARGETS

kill delayer - amazing town value, no mafia value unless they go for an insane bus play. best to let player do whatever but opens up risk to the latter.

jailkeeper - same as above. mafia can't really afford to let this role hang around. should target whoever.

role swapper - again, i see no reason why they should be swapping roles unless we decide to. we can CONTROL THE TARGETS

absorber - this role is really strong, from my POV as TOWN I really think it makes sense to target me with a couple actions in order for us to have those to take advantage of later.

motivator - really good town value. I'm assuming this can't double mafia kill. we can CONTROL THE TARGET

tracker - should target whoever. pretty good town role, not super useful as mafia and fairly easy to get around.

1-bpv - amazing town role. bad mafia role. keep alive.

this is not an amazing analysis or anything but hopefully just something to get the juices going

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vote lady salamence


out of the people with roles I would vote today, I didn't like her stance against Psy when it was very clear why Psy did not like what Dusk was saying.
 
So just to be clear you want to vote the role that does absolutely nothing other than “okay can you confirm I targeted you pls?“ because I was upset that Psy didn’t bother reading roles until the game actually started
 
Also voting based on roles when there is a role that swaps all the roles is uh, not sensible

This is only a reasonable strategy by voting Tommy out first, and town clearly doesn't want to do that.
 
jalmont means child, the children are 1s poisoner and doublevoter. cant redirect the poison or doublevoter slot basically
 
jalmont i would prefer we dont do ls today. i cant speak to her scum game but i think she skews town so far and theres people id rather get in your listed pool. particularly the 1s gladiator. if it was on anyone but hal, i wouldnt be worried about it, but i dont trust hal to use it wisely nor do i trust his alignment being town so far
 
So just to be clear you want to vote the role that does absolutely nothing other than “okay can you confirm I targeted you pls?“ because I was upset that Psy didn’t bother reading roles until the game actually started
okay that's reasonable if you think psy's posts were legitimately "policy" and not a reaction to dusk saying, "now i'm going to give you all your real role."

Also voting based on roles when there is a role that swaps all the roles is uh, not sensible

This is only a reasonable strategy by voting Tommy out first, and town clearly doesn't want to do that.
What sort of situation do you think it makes sense to use the roleswap role at all? That's a good point though, I think I would add that role to those I would be ok voting TODAY.
 
jalmont means child, the children are 1s poisoner and doublevoter. cant redirect the poison or doublevoter slot basically
To clear it up just in case, I actually asked Caff if the two child roles were supposed to have outside chat during draft (because if so I would have chosen one, love a bit of outside chat). He said no.
 
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