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if jalmont didn’t play last game I would lean his slot towards town too but sadly now that it’s evidence of a past game it’s hard to parse that

there’s probably considerations of like, “damn his voting style is very annoying if his partner is being ran up”that he dictated at the beginning of the game

Idt there was a confirmation phase right so it’s not like him and a potentially experienced partner had time to talk about it, which means it’s probably a similar read to where “jalmont is a big voice on his team” rather than having a more exp (or less initially afk ig) teammate I think
 
Duskfall98 said:
you forgot to include me in your townreads

overall not bad reads though
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they seem pretty standard at this point tbh

and yeah i mean i still haven’t found you lol. im not sure what im missing as a thing that will point to me a better cursor to dictate your games. it’s probably cos u feel kind of backend this game as well ( i haven’t isod yet)
 
Lady Salamence said:
not to my recollection
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yea i feel like im trying to make lemonade out of rocks by trying to read jalmont but someone has to right

I feel like I thought this last game but it’s just kind of a brazen d1 that wouldn’t be very tact when it comes to dealing with two partners, especially if they had more experience and were more willing to walk in with a plan
 
firekitten said:
Sylvest

You don’t even understand who you’re dealing with. I have advanced degrees in statistics and computer science and I’ve created a simple program with an advanced algorithm that I’ve been working on for years. I have read and tracked over 600 mafia games, recording every scumslip, every tell, every WORD uttered. At this point I can have my bot read the thread chat and play the game for me. I have reduced the cacophonous lies of forum mafia into a pure, beautiful mathematical formula, and it’s led me to literal hundreds of wins.

Why do I think you’re mafia? I don’t deign to think about you myself. Instead, I thought about how to create a program to know mathematically whether you are. I don’t need to think about you, because my algorithm has determined that you’re mafia to an 87% certainty. You cannot beat those numbers at this stage in the game. We’re talking about a mere 13% chance that you’re so monumentally bad at this game that you fooled a computer program that has successfully identified over 500 unique players as mafia with over 96% accuracy. Your only defense, in other words, is that your so scummy that you are an outlier.

Whether you’re town or mafia, this is a message from mathematics – you are bad at this game. You have played so scummy that a perfectly objective process has labeled you as scum. Whether that makes you bad at playing your specific rolecard or bad in general, there is no question that behaving like scum means you have not performed well. Consider this a welcome wakeup call, as hundreds have before you: If a player decides you’re scum, it’s possible you just got unlucky, but if a computer program can be that certain of your alignment, there are some serious holes in your game, because it means you’re scum in an objective sense, rather than a subjective one. For that reason, I’m willing to roll that die and take that 13% risk, because even if there’s a small chance you might be town, there’s not even a remote chance that you’re good
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Damn this is a fucking power move ngl.
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe you made some sort of activity comment on Laurel but I fail to understand why 1. I would remember caff explicitly saying that he is more active as one alignment and 2. Why that would factor into my read

have you isod him? i can get not scumreading him but it’s not an activity thing it’s a “dude this entrance is looking like it’s trying to contribute by reading people” in cool weap and that wasn’t all that present in my game
 
Nuxl said:
yea i feel like im trying to make lemonade out of rocks by trying to read jalmont but someone has to right

I feel like I thought this last game but it’s just kind of a brazen d1 that wouldn’t be very tact when it comes to dealing with two partners, especially if they had more experience and were more willing to walk in with a plan
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better you than me, my reads on jalmont are shit (see smalltown). i cant help but mentally conflate his numbers game (i think he's oddly stuck to it) to the hyperfocus on the role swap from smalltown. it just feels like a lot of "social deduction game? forget the social of it, i'm just gonna focus on the deduction" to me which like. probably a bad read but it's what im feeling? idk
 
Lady Salamence said:
better you than me, my reads on jalmont are shit (see smalltown). i cant help but mentally conflate his numbers game (i think he's oddly stuck to it) to the hyperfocus on the role swap from smalltown. it just feels like a lot of "social deduction game? forget the social of it, i'm just gonna focus on the deduction" to me which like. probably a bad read but it's what im feeling? idk
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can you go into a bit more into this thought like what does it broach you about what you think he’s doing (and is it different or offputting)
 
skippers posts were fine on catchup although one thing that I’m pointing out compared to last game is that I think he’s making way more sense now. Idk if it’s a fair way to read someone

is that offputting? It doesn’t read like it’s coaching and it could be a post g1 experience grasp but even noticing that spiderz felt like he was priming Tommy or that he doesn’t have many put out reads just seemed way more advanced than his first readslist in smalltown
 
I felt the experience gap close with ls too last game and was right so I guess I’ll just follow the trend if someone’s live posting looks like ass it’s probably because that they’re having trouble, and it’s not like he’s been bad
 
Nuxl said:
can you go into a bit more into this thought like what does it broach you about what you think he’s doing (and is it different or offputting)
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in smalltown i admittedly did not like jalmont's play and as a result focused on his role swap-focused posts. maybe he had social-focused posts too but my recollection was that most of his gameplay was focused on role swap and how best to use it.

and then this game i just ISO'd him and his posts fall into the [vote people by account age], [who wants to claim pr], and [questions about mechanics.] - he's obv got a handful of posts that aren't that, like him pushing forward that we don't vote today.

like i am going to not assume that not interfacing with the social aspect of things somehow makes him counter to town's goals, but it's just something i cant help but draw parallel to smalltown. i didnt like it then and im not thrilled abt it now in the same way that i voted psy d1 of weapon bc i couldnt handle the wallposting, and then in subsequent games i went "im not interacting with you, you do your own thing"

idk if that makes sense. i see parallels to smalltown and as a gameplay style i'm not thrilled with it. but ive never been thrilled with psy and he's been town in all of those games, and jalmont was town in smalltown.
 
Duskfall98 idk how to phrase this question in a way that makes sense but what do you think of thread traction towards you cos it feels like a good chunk of the townread people itt aren’t seeing you.

Idr if you’ve eaten a townread actually lol

Do you think theres something wrong there, is there better direction you think should be applicable etc
 
Nuxl said:
Good post thanks LS

in general rly happy that more people are getting more accustomed to forum mafia the more they play
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it's been fun, and ive reached the point where i'm like "maybe i host one??" which would be another stressor for sure but a cool learning experience probably.

firekitten said:
I don’t think I have processed the fact that hydrogen actually exists in the game, he was kinda like an omniscient ghost in my mind

how do you guys read that slot
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joke answer: :luvdisc: Lady Salamence

serious answer: like he's obviously here and reading everything presumably but he hasn't said shit and im not sure why
 
Nuxl said:
Duskfall98 idk how to phrase this question in a way that makes sense but what do you think of thread traction towards you cos it feels like a good chunk of the townread people itt aren’t seeing you.

Idr if you’ve eaten a townread actually lol

Do you think theres something wrong there, is there better direction you think should be applicable etc
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I think I am always a slot that is tinfoiled, even by you and hal etc who have played with me years and probably should townread me easiser but you don't, I'm just always scumread regardless of alignment, so it's something that I've learned to not be too concerned about until I'm going to flip, I'm not an easy townread and I think I'm good at scum so people will kind of tinfoil me by default anyways, because my town range is close to my scum range I do get a lot of people comparing something I did as scum and saying it's scummy even though I'd do it as either alignment

so yeah idr know what to do about that, I think it's best to just let my play and direction speak for itself and I'm actually a bad D1 vote because I am very hard to discern
 
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