NOC Werewolf Mafia - Game Over: Mafia Wins!

I’ve waited long enough. Personally, I feel like Dusk’s attitude this game has been quite clear: I do not care what you kiddo’s do as long as you don’t harm me or my family. I could be skill-issuing here, but me and dusk haven’t mindmelded a lot on certain town reads this game, despite the fact that historically, I have always mindmelded with competent players when I’m town and they are town early on in the game.

An example of this is their spider read. I don’t really town read spider, I scumread them, I don’t get why tommy town read spider, when I asked for why they said it was a “personality” read which is one of the most dumb things I’ve ever heard of. I don’t really think Tommy has an actual read on that slot, I think they are town reading that slot for fairly little reason which is indicative of them having tmj , me being incompetent and them beingcompetent, or them being w/w and I personally think it’s 1 or 3 as of right now. Spiderz is a fairly combative person, at least from my impression of them, so I could make an argument as to why scum!tommy doesn’t actually want to pick a fight with town!Spiderz as is just town reading them on default, and this makes sense to me.

JALMONT made a good point as to dusk extrapolating/misinterpreting parts of his posts/long term plan, I found dusk’s thoughts weird on the slot.

that’s pretty much my read on the slots off the top of my head
 
My only problem is that Dusk is right in the sense that I have this irrational need to try to tunnel him every game that we play together so I could just be confirm biasing him here so I’m not going to actively push it, I’m just going to lay out my thoughts and let other people decide as they also have their concerns with their slots. And if I do push it and it’s wrong tommy will never let me hear the end of it.
 
Not to mention, earlier on I joked about being a serial killer, and Tommy literally gave me a team that explained a lot of what was going on in the thread and it made sense to me, and the way tommy is handling me makes me believe tbat he honestly thinks I could be a sk but isn’t pushing it cuz he’s mafia and knows that the mafia need the sk
 
firekitten said:
My only problem is that Dusk is right in the sense that I have this irrational need to try to tunnel him every game that we play together so I could just be confirm biasing him here so I’m not going to actively push it, I’m just going to lay out my thoughts and let other people decide as they also have their concerns with their slots. And if I do push it and it’s wrong tommy will never let me hear the end of it.
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my partner theory is looking pretty good rn
 
firekitten said:
I’ve waited long enough. Personally, I feel like Dusk’s attitude this game has been quite clear: I do not care what you kiddo’s do as long as you don’t harm me or my family. I could be skill-issuing here, but me and dusk haven’t mindmelded a lot on certain town reads this game, despite the fact that historically, I have always mindmelded with competent players when I’m town and they are town early on in the game.

An example of this is their spider read. I don’t really town read spider, I scumread them, I don’t get why tommy town read spider, when I asked for why they said it was a “personality” read which is one of the most dumb things I’ve ever heard of. I don’t really think Tommy has an actual read on that slot, I think they are town reading that slot for fairly little reason which is indicative of them having tmj , me being incompetent and them beingcompetent, or them being w/w and I personally think it’s 1 or 3 as of right now. Spiderz is a fairly combative person, at least from my impression of them, so I could make an argument as to why scum!tommy doesn’t actually want to pick a fight with town!Spiderz as is just town reading them on default, and this makes sense to me.

JALMONT made a good point as to dusk extrapolating/misinterpreting parts of his posts/long term plan, I found dusk’s thoughts weird on the slot.

that’s pretty much my read on the slots off the top of my head
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tbf i now townread spiderz less than i did

i am also starting to consider jalmont town atp
 
Dusk before I respond to that can I ask you why do you think Eli is one of the best town players as they have done absolutely nothing pretty much besides coasting, this can’t possibly be their town game that you are praising
Are they just wolfing
 
anyways if i go over today, im not that mad i think everyones points on me kinda sucks but its a been a while since ive been mled and every game is an uphill battle no matter what i do, i think my reads have been fine and in general a lot of players have agreed with me, so again idrk why im being pushed but i am because im me i guess

not really trying to ate, but i do beleive if i flip today then tomorrow no one will really no any good reason why i was voted beyond the fact i was mafia last game (the same thing that basically made hal get pushed all of last game, except at least im trying)
 
firekitten said:
Dusk before I respond to that can I ask you why do you think Eli is one of the best town players as they have done absolutely nothing pretty much besides coasting, this can’t possibly be their town game that you are praising
Are they just wolfing
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plausible, but eli has accurate reads most games, even last game he had accurate reads but tinfoiled off them which is why i asked about confidence issues, eli is a lot better than me at town, i dont consider myself a good town player but you have no real gauge

i would say his skill level in mu terms would be like spf or alexa level on epicmafia if you know them, but like just on smogon where he has meta

usually hes a very active poster idk why hes not been so much latter half of today but idt hes incapable as mafia either, i do know sk is one of his most hated roles if i remember from the one time he rolled it years ago but i dont think theres need to put much stock into that
 
firekitten said:
Okay responding to this now, why did you switch your reads as soon as I voiced concerns with your reads
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i didnt, i just voiced it when you said it

still wouldnt vote derz but he has stopped posting which is more sus but id give him another day

i think jalmont is acting incredibly anti town, but maybe i believe he wouldnt do it as mafia, or maybe hes just null idk

jalmont is a slot that actively like my soul is scumreading and i feel like hes a scumread when i think of him but im actively trying to check myself because he probably could do this as town even if its bad idk its hard
 
realiti, psy
celever
laurel, jalmont
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litten/spiderz/neon/hydro/whydon/nuxl
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ls/skipper/ehmcee?


my townreads are probably someone more accurate than everything else, i am really forcing scumreads atp out of the null pile and the fact they are all newer players is a sure sign im wrong but also idk game is hard
 
with us having a lot of pr open (i could be backup), its also a bit safer rather than baiting other claims and i think after i flip town people start playing the game a lot more and we can lose the defend all lhf and kill experienced guys stuff lmao

well i guess theres not too much of that, but it has annoyed me a bit that i get pushed for basically nothing and i think a town flip is coming eventually sometime so im kind of wanting to get it out of the way partially
 
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