NOC Werewolf Mafia - Game Over: Mafia Wins!

Just gonna finish the responses from yesterday's shit holup



The fuck is a POE?

process of elimination. if you're convinced 40% of the game is town based on what they've been posted, you know you're town, you're willing to buy into a town read of 20% of the people in the game from someone you trust, then the remaining 30-somethign percent of people who you don't have confident town reads in, that's your POE. you're confident that roughly 60%+yourself are town, by process of elimination that 30ish% of people left have to have scum somewhere in that group
 
Anyways psy I am saying this for your own good, there is a reason why people find your posting and worldview frustrating and annoying, regardless of whether you are right or wrong.

please take a couple of minutes to step back, get rid of the victim mentality, and think about why your posts may not be very helpful to the gamestate

at the end of the day mafia is a team game and you just constantly questioning everyone on the most irrelevant of points and assuming the worst just makes your own reads worse, everyone frustrated at you regardless of alignment, and the game more unfun

i actually think psy’s posts have been pretty good this game, in what i’ve read i’ve seen myself agreeing with him a decent amount
 
okay is realiti + firekitten just scum defending wolf or what. no way is this mafia + mafia it would be too obvious.

realiti for seeming to claim that firekitten is pretty good at mafia his posts don’t seem that good. he did nothing but tunnel Tommy yesterday from what i’ve skimmed.

in terms of my thoughts on the kills, i feel like anyone would have killed eli and the celever kill seems incredibly specific. Cels reads have been off the last few games.

jalmont does make the most sense for killing celever but it could also be a frame.

what are your thoughts HydrogenHydreigon
 
okay is realiti + firekitten just scum defending wolf or what. no way is this mafia + mafia it would be too obvious.

realiti for seeming to claim that firekitten is pretty good at mafia his posts don’t seem that good. he did nothing but tunnel Tommy yesterday from what i’ve skimmed.

in terms of my thoughts on the kills, i feel like anyone would have killed eli and the celever kill seems incredibly specific. Cels reads have been off the last few games.

jalmont does make the most sense for killing celever but it could also be a frame.

what are your thoughts HydrogenHydreigon
I can only speak for myself but personally I feel like realit getting annoyed at Psy is townie considering the fact that I’m town, doesn’t really make sense to get annoyed at Psy for tunneling me if he was a wolf. As for tunneling Tommy, old habits die hard this isn’t the first time I’ve tunneled Tommy.
 
I want to point out that one of the most interesting wagons that sprung up yesterday was actually JALMONT. The reason I find this interesting is because my POE/Suspects were pushing it (Spider, Hydrogen). Don’t really think it makes sense for them to push that wagon there if JALMONT was a wolf with them, which implies that if JALMONT is a wolf the wolf team is probably a combination of low-posters that don’t include that pool.
 
okay is realiti + firekitten just scum defending wolf or what. no way is this mafia + mafia it would be too obvious.

realiti for seeming to claim that firekitten is pretty good at mafia his posts don’t seem that good. he did nothing but tunnel Tommy yesterday from what i’ve skimmed.

in terms of my thoughts on the kills, i feel like anyone would have killed eli and the celever kill seems incredibly specific. Cels reads have been off the last few games.

jalmont does make the most sense for killing celever but it could also be a frame.

what are your thoughts HydrogenHydreigon
im about to sleep so brain not very functional so forgive me for nonsensical answers
i remember yesterday i sled fk for messages feeling forced and vague think i mightve tled realiti?
i do also get the impression fk was tunneling tommy firekitten coudl you explain
realiti i get better vibes from his posts but thats just a gut thing. i do feel like i might be trying to pocket me with the jalmont sr? but it also didnt entirely come out of nowhere so
 
im about to sleep so brain not very functional so forgive me for nonsensical answers
i remember yesterday i sled fk for messages feeling forced and vague think i mightve tled realiti?
i do also get the impression fk was tunneling tommy firekitten coudl you explain
realiti i get better vibes from his posts but thats just a gut thing. i do feel like i might be trying to pocket me with the jalmont sr? but it also didnt entirely come out of nowhere so
Explain what?
 
ur reasonning on tommy, im ngl you prolly did that but all i remember from last eod was me going insane over cfd jalmont
The original reason I actually suspected Tommy was because we were not mindmelding with our reads. The way I usually figure out if strong players are a wolf or not is I compare our reads and see if our perspective has mindmelded. Dusk was not mindmelding with his reads. It also felt like he was faking helplessness with having no scumreads and then Nuxl pointed out that he acted exactly the same way he did in a previous scum game.
 
For the record, I want everyone to be clear on their stances today. We are actually in a crucial moment of the game where we can’t really afford to be wrong today. I personally think this is necessary because it will force people to be consistent or else they will be outted. I predict that end of day will be very chaotic and that scum will take advantage of that. There are four people who are not aligned with us and I think we need to be quite clear on what we plan to do today or else they will take advantage of that.

This is me mainly calling out Spiderz.
 
Right now, I could see several possibilities. As of right now I am pretty sure JALMOND is a wolf - whether that is mafia or werewolf I have no clue, but both night kills point in his direction. I also notice that despite actually being able to play the game, as evident by his reads at eod, he has actively been choosing to not play the game which I just think is wolfy. I think a point in his favor being mafia is his post where he had a group of four people in it that he was willing to vote, and 3 of the people in it are confirmed to be town.

I also think Whydon is also not town. Not sure what they are either, but I have other people as townier than them. I don’t really know how to read them.

Spiderz depends upon what JALMOND is. If JALMOND is mafia, spider is probably SK/Town, however I also have noticed that Hydrogen/Spiderz both heavily pushed JALMOND yesterday, and I honestly think that they might be working together to get JALMOND who people have theorized as a SK out.
 
Right now, I could see several possibilities. As of right now I am pretty sure JALMOND is a wolf - whether that is mafia or werewolf I have no clue, but both night kills point in his direction. I also notice that despite actually being able to play the game, as evident by his reads at eod, he has actively been choosing to not play the game which I just think is wolfy. I think a point in his favor being mafia is his post where he had a group of four people in it that he was willing to vote, and 3 of the people in it are confirmed to be town.

I also think Whydon is also not town. Not sure what they are either, but I have other people as townier than them. I don’t really know how to read them.

Spiderz depends upon what JALMOND is. If JALMOND is mafia, spider is probably SK/Town, however I also have noticed that Hydrogen/Spiderz both heavily pushed JALMOND yesterday, and I honestly think that they might be working together to get JALMOND who people have theorized as a SK out.
Just to put it into perspective. If you have a 15p game and rolled town. And there’s only three mafia in the game. The chance of there no mafia in a pool of three random people is 45.3%.
 
ImaginaryNeon can you give your reads/where your head is at?
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