NOC Assist Trophy Mutiny [GAME OVER]

Whydon said:
I promise that I am not trolling lmao I do not know why there is a d1 redcheck but I have it and I used it

In defense of celever it clearly is not intended to be used d1 and I gave up a huge chunk of my power just to use it but I got lucky and hit scum so this is a fair trade obviously

Very very very high risk with high reward to the point where it's basically never worth it to use it on d1 but I'm exquisite and powerful and I never miss with my abilities
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what is this red check by the way?
 
ZippyDoo200 said:
What does this mean
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There's something of a meme, in which Lady Salamence gets falsely accused of getting some manner of inspected. I want a 100% clear and unambiguous statement that 1, it's completely real (as opposed to just not trolling, since hoping for reactions is theoretically an option) and 2, that Whydon is willing to back it up with an if-not-LS-then-Whydon-next agreement. Because specifically targeting LS for fake "I checked her"-style claims needs to die.
Ehmcee said:
Do you think they would do this as mafia AG
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Quite possibly. Means, yes. But they also might as town, so... yeah.
 
Aura Guardian said:
Quite possibly. Means, yes. But they also might as town, so... yeah.
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Just feels weird that you're weaponizing your vote on Whydon on a conditionality of them being right or not, like I get the thought process of "locking" it down, but you have to get that Whydon is 99% just trolling here.

Also locking town into a vote is usually a bad play, especially on D1. Makes it easy for maf to plan around the vote, especially if there's some kind of wacky roles we don't know about.
 
Ehmcee said:
Just feels weird that you're weaponizing your vote on Whydon on a conditionality of them being right or not, like I get the thought process of "locking" it down, but you have to get that Whydon is 99% just trolling here.

Also locking town into a vote is usually a bad play, especially on D1. Makes it easy for maf to plan around the vote, especially if there's some kind of wacky roles we don't know about.
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After Matrices Mafia, I want absolutely 0 ambiguity and 100% locked in. Fake claiming a redcheck nearly cost both sides the game. The town, because it wasted a vote and outed both power roles, and me because it screwed up my final misvote plan. No matter what, the chaos of fake redchecks ONLY adds uncontrolled chaos to the game. This early, I'm pretty sure mafia would be able to ride the chaos a lot better than we could, and I'm not at all confident that I could spot them riding it (despite my record thus far).

Whydon care to elaborate and lock in your claim with no room for rescinding it later, or else retract it now?
 
Aura Guardian said:
After Matrices Mafia, I want absolutely 0 ambiguity and 100% locked in. Fake claiming a redcheck nearly cost both sides the game. The town, because it wasted a vote and outed both power roles, and me because it screwed up my final misvote plan. No matter what, the chaos of fake redchecks ONLY adds uncontrolled chaos to the game. This early, I'm pretty sure mafia would be able to ride the chaos a lot better than we could, and I'm not at all confident that I could spot them riding it (despite my record thus far).

Whydon care to elaborate and lock in your claim with no room for rescinding it later, or else retract it now?
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Theoretically if you wanted to do the whole lock plan, wouldn't it just be better to vote whydon, then if he was town and had that ability, then go after LS. Cuts out the possibility of him just being town and capping
 
Ehmcee said:
Theoretically if you wanted to do the whole lock plan, wouldn't it just be better to vote whydon, then if he was town and had that ability, then go after LS. Cuts out the possibility of him just being town and capping
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Considering the role madness, I'd slightly rather bank on having a conftown that can be protected or the like. I mean, if he's for real, then, mafia will probably kill him after they kill a doctor or two, but that's a while of utility we'd get that we wouldn't have if we voted Whydon first and he's for real.
 
What's the purpose of begging Whydon to agree with locking down the claim? If you're going to vote between him or LS, just do it and use the flip to inform your vote tomorrow? It sounds like that'd be your plan anyway so I'm not sure what you gain from the "Well if you're wrong and I mislynch, YOU have to be the one to take the fall for it afterwards" shtick.

In the scenario he lied and LS flips town, it's not like Whydon can rescind the claim and mysteriously take town votes off of him without any level of suspicion.
 
I understand being paranoid about misvoting but the way AG is approaching it makes it seem like it's an effort for them to gain some level of towncred. Whydon already claimed he got a redcheck on you and doubled down. In either scenario, Whydon probably gets killed for outing role anyways if he's not Mafia or alternatively gets voted by town if he's lying.

Also I TR Ehmcee because their suggestion actually makes sense and cuts out the crap of "Well pls tell me we can vote for you tomorrow if you lie!"
 
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