NOC Two Mafias Mafia - Won by The Pack

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the NAIs: bluegummybear, toasterboi420, imperfectluck
I think the former two are struggling with the high skill ramp that initially getting onboard with mafia (while being a contributive presence) and are pretty NAI as such - you could make an argument that they are getting coached for what little they do positively contribute OR that they aren't getting coached based on how little they add. IPL is a weird case, they're NAI because afaik they havent played maf since back when i was last active, but i remember them being more skilled than "we shouldn't vote." and non-interactive. but it's been over a decade presumably they have a job and/or family or something.

confident in their towniness: Neon, Psy
i know people have grown less fond of the villager image clear. that's fine. some people didn't like it at all at the start. but i still care about it and Neon does edge out Psy here w.r.t. how much towny im confident in them being. i'd be very surprised if either flipped scum. this has little more than what i was saying about the villager image thing, so feel free to disregard it (if anyone is taking any read of mine genuinely idk)

i'd bet on them being town: HH
he's maintained a consistent behavior, which is maybe hard to go off of because he's yet to roll scum. that's fine. i think that a scum HH does struggle with maintaining behavior, but that went pretty poorly for me that one game i was sure HH was acting different and scum. this one is weaker for me than the first two, but i do think HH is comfortably town here.

these are probably town but i wouldn't be shocked if they were scum: jalmont, zippy, realiti
a wide range in a group, admittedly, but these are all vocal folk who are confident in what they've been saying and are folks that haven't really at any point given me strong worries about them being scum. no, i don't have jalmont and ehmcee together, i think there's a non-zero chance that the pairing there is something more than genuine mason twins, be that jalmont opportunitist grabbing the spot and ehmcee playing along fsr, it not being masonry, etc etc.

i think there is multiple scum in this group: Ehmcee, Celever, pulsar512b
i'm most confident about pulsar, who didnt interact with the villager image stuff and kept trying to bait me into fluff chats. and then overnight went, "ls is scum" and as far as i can tell has no progression or explanation towards that. ehmcee and celever have both given me reasons to think they're scum, unlike the above group - celever gives me lover's dance vibes, and i see the logic behind what folks like psy have been calling ehmcee scum.
 
Votecount 1.04
imperfectluck (2): bluegummybear, Psypsypsypsypsythe
Lady Salamence (2): realiti, ZippyDoo200
No Vote (2): imperfectluck, JALMONT
ZippyDoo200 (2): HydrogenHydreigon, ImaginaryNeon
bludgummybear (1): Ehmcee
JALMONT (1): pulsar512b
realiti (1): ToasterBoi420
ToasterBoi420 (1): Celever
 
Oh so Lady Salamence isn't even voting??

Interesting interesting

current plan is to shower, vote pulsar, then head to sleep. i am adjusting my sleep schedule as to not be as degenerate as it used to be so i intend to leave my vote on my most confident sr. goal eventually is to be waking up at like 6:30 am and pre-starting last week my average wake up time was 9:30. i cant do midnights anymore ):
 
3 reasons why Zippy is probably scum:
1. Angleshoot
2. Inconsistencies between posts in quick succession that are too convenient, seems like he's just adjusting based on other people's content (see post #734)
3. Alternates between posts where he's either insanely confident with little logic (#1019, #1079-#1080) or just going completely clueless (#1074), both seem too theatrical to be genuine

Also I just don't really like how the guy has no respect for any of the players on the site, he clearly thinks we're all bad and stupid, why would I want to play with a player like that
 
tb420 strikes me as someone who has not played mafia and is doing their best to keep up but feels overwhelmed at the idea of trying to contribute or feels like anything they could contribute would be valueless. nai but that's my current read of their struggle
Please point out his posts where you see the bolded characteristics in him.
 
no, i don't have jalmont and ehmcee together, i think there's a non-zero chance that the pairing there is something more than genuine mason twins, be that jalmont opportunitist grabbing the spot and ehmcee playing along fsr, it not being masonry, etc etc.

I'd like you to elaborate on this potential scenario, because you're suggesting that either:

a) I as scum decided to pretend to be a twin publicly and Jalmont decided to Pair with me (as town this would be throwing)

b) I as town decided to pretend to be a twin publicly and Jalmont (as scum) decided to pair with me (this would also be throwing)

c) we're not twins, and are just claiming to be as both town (i mean, technically a play ig, hella weird though)
 
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