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NOC Two Mafias Mafia - Won by The Pack

ImaginaryNeon said:
Scum D1 (#855) and specifically Pack D2 (#1478).

Can someone quote this and ping Psy so he sees this?
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Psypsypsypsypsythe Neon helpfully answered your question

Thank you this actually helps my section on realiti x pulsar too. Specifically pack is really, really bold of pulsar to say? And pulsar checks OP was pack herself. I'd say this probably increases their scumbud eq a bit, they're surprisingly linked players.
 
pulsar512b said:
yeah no dont think realiti was on thread @ that time.
could mean two things: trying to help realiti as teammate by sussing them, or just choosing a pseudorandom town to bully and bullying one already under fire. second seems quite plausible.

this makes me hesitant to vote imperfect. i think we should try to vote people that could be bgb's partner as a tiebreaker between two sus people.

ig i should think about if psy-bgb could ever be a scumteam. back to isoing i go
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Post 1894, going to pulsar's profile and using ctrl f for "realiti" has this as her most recent comment which was defending realiti.

Also Post 1376 is realiti posting just the word "MODKILL" 5 min after midnight at end of day so he was definitely on at end of day and never changed his vote off zippy even before the zippy voting fiasco. That should be better evidence than me just saying "he was on at deadline".
 
imperfectluck said:
realiti is unclaimed and appears to have ignored my call for him to claim.
Considering the fluff in this game psy should probably hard claim to clear up any ambiguity about troll/joke claims.
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You told me to claim at midnight my time
imperfectluck said:
Post 1894, going to pulsar's profile and using ctrl f for "realiti" has this as her most recent comment which was defending realiti.

Also Post 1376 is realiti posting just the word "MODKILL" 5 min after midnight at end of day so he was definitely on at end of day and never changed his vote off zippy even before the zippy voting fiasco. That should be better evidence than me just saying "he was on at deadline".
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I was scumreading Zippy the whole time, if you're trying to paint me as scum pushing a misvote, wasn't it you who suddenly shifted their mind from no vote to Zippy last minute?
 
Although the simple truth is most likely that realiti and Celever are scum, let's take a look at some numbers and deconstruct realiti's argument. He says that there's absolutely no reason for him to claim. If town lynches correctly this day, the numbers will be 5-1. Does it even matter what realiti's role is with such an overwhelming number advantage? Even if he is some super awesome role that gets targeted and killed, the numbers will be 4-1. Town can mislynch, be at 3-1, scum gets another kill to put it to 2-1, and town still has yet another chance to win. In no way will realiti's role affect this process if he claims today and the lynch is accurate.

Let's look at if it's a mylo situation for town. 5-1-1 numbers and today is a mislynch, leads to 4-1-1. Let's say that both scum have accurate reads on who the other scum is, I'd say that's a reasonable claim because just about everyone left has some scum reads, right? That means they have 1/4 * 1/4 odds to hit the same person, so a 15/16 chance for the game to go into a 2-1-1 situation, which as I mentioned earlier will be an RNG fiesta based on coin flips to determine who gets lynched for tie votes, and whichever scum kill is faster at night. That doesn't look good for town no matter what.
 
imperfectluck said:
Although the simple truth is most likely that realiti and Celever are scum, let's take a look at some numbers and deconstruct realiti's argument. He says that there's absolutely no reason for him to claim. If town lynches correctly this day, the numbers will be 5-1. Does it even matter what realiti's role is with such an overwhelming number advantage? Even if he is some super awesome role that gets targeted and killed, the numbers will be 4-1. Town can mislynch, be at 3-1, scum gets another kill to put it to 2-1, and town still has yet another chance to win. In no way will realiti's role affect this process if he claims today and the lynch is accurate.

Let's look at if it's a mylo situation for town. 5-1-1 numbers and today is a mislynch, leads to 4-1-1. Let's say that both scum have accurate reads on who the other scum is, I'd say that's a reasonable claim because just about everyone left has some scum reads, right? That means they have 1/4 * 1/4 odds to hit the same person, so a 15/16 chance for the game to go into a 2-1-1 situation, which as I mentioned earlier will be an RNG fiesta based on coin flips to determine who gets lynched for tie votes, and whichever scum kill is faster at night. That doesn't look good for town no matter what.
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And this relates to me claiming my role because...?
 
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