NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)

Celever said:
Anyway currently reading the no vote push from pulsar as wrong but townlean, she’s for sure just parroting IPL last game but I think that comes from “just had a scum game where I was GREAT at getting town eq so I can be more relaxed about that part now, now I need to actually solve… let’s try whatever IPL was talking about last time he’s a good strategist” and then she stamped and shipped it.
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So you note that pulsar tried to be village leader as scum which worked pretty well, then now they're a townlean because they're Parroting IPL's no vote strategy which everyone ignored? Not following the logic Mr. Celever
 
Sam tries to be village leader every game, would slightly townlean for now because his advice is pro-town and there is less incentive to give it out as scum than town

Blazade basically repeated what Sam said + didn't offer much of value, but hey it was 5AM for him. Regardless, I don't really care so a slightly scumlean for him
 
realiti said:
So you note that pulsar tried to be village leader as scum which worked pretty well, then now they're a townlean because they're Parroting IPL's no vote strategy which everyone ignored? Not following the logic Mr. Celever
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basically I townlean it because I'm p sure scum pulsar never parrots IPL's idea that got shot down last game. While last time she could just be herself and be very towny and get cred that way, this game she started out by interacting with higher level town strategy a bit more. Parroting IPL's strategy was a way to test the waters and it just reads to me like "pulsar's first game where she's confident enough as a player to begin trying to think deeper as a member of the town".

All this is to say good vibes and roughly nothing else lmao
 
realiti said:
Here's where I'm at now, a lot of people should be easy reads later on

Hydro (CLOSE TO LOCK TOWN)

Neon
Rostam Sam

Everyone Else

Blazade
Pulsar
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I think Hydro's posts are like, fine, I have no clue how you're reading them as close to lock town lmao

if anything I found them somewhat frustrating bc he answered everything with "vibes bruh" but tbf that is a classic Hydro move

when was he last scum? idr it
 
a fairy said:
tmk never on smogon but it came up in 2maf that he had one on MU
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oh that would make sense, I was p sure I've never seen him scum either lol

not sure I wanna just fully back realiti's read on Hydro's scum game then, especially if it was his first one. realiti hardlocking Hydro as town rn seems predicated on the idea that Hydro is a polarised slot who's either obvscum or not scum and 1 scum game isn't enough of a metric to lock that in as the meta
 
realiti said:
So you note that pulsar tried to be village leader as scum which worked pretty well, then now they're a townlean because they're Parroting IPL's no vote strategy which everyone ignored? Not following the logic Mr. Celever
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well I read that horribly wrong lol
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Celever said:
Since I maintain I have unreadable meta so I’m p sure I’m gonna get false meta pushed for being the same as the last two games and it’s like yeah because I’m the person playing all of them that’s just me hi how are ya :psytear:

Anyway if it happens it happens lol
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Yeah I'm calling BS on that. I'm not here to vote you out but I am here to say you're far from unreadable and if you rolled scum this game I'll tell you why. And look, it's not just you, but you were the most egregious example in the games I read of someone who got away with nonsense. People I thought were obv town were getting lynched, and people I thought were obv scum weren't, and there's only so long you can just watch games like that even if you're busy.

But hey, I'm ready for this to be the game where we both rolled town and get to mind meld on stuff. I'm here for it.
 
Celever is my first scum lean tbh.

I think it’s fine to point out when people might SR you based on prior games (which btw people should generally ignore unless it’s a meta read, keep the vengeance out of it pls), but Celever sorta came in very defensive about it and it is giving me weird vibes.

Also I’m tired of seeing a Psyduck every other post let’s be real that’s the main reason.

Keeping vote on Jalmont until signs of life but Celever would be my next push.
 
realiti said:
So you note that pulsar tried to be village leader as scum which worked pretty well, then now they're a townlean because they're Parroting IPL's no vote strategy which everyone ignored? Not following the logic Mr. Celever
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Also confused why Pulsar is widely getting the benefit of the doubt. She could easily have been trying to gauge support for a free Neon lynch without actually committing to any reads. And the role reveal thing is just weird with the context of last game
 
Scum lean

Ehmcee – entered by reiterating that no lynch day 1 is bad for the third time and when pressured for an original contribution sheeped the widely held Pulsar read

Celever – Get the feeling that he was trying to crowd the thread with unhelpful setup speculation and fluff

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Town lean

Realiti – Reads seem rational, lock towning Hydro is weirdly confident d1 but I don’t think you do that as mafia either

Blazade, UncleSam – Fostered a good town environment on page 1 / pointed town in the right direction. Blazade seems competitive so I’m not sure he would give up that level of advice for free as mafia

Not enough to go on / not sure about the rest yet
 
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