NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)

Hi I wasn't going to post until tomorrow but I love yelling at people on the internet so I'm back


I think you're around average and not as cagey as Blazade but your reads are weak and on people who you can just scumread and nobody will really bat an eye on like Hydro and Tiger, you scumreading me is actually pretty interesting, now that you're forced to actually interact let's see where this goes
I mean I guess that could be true, Hydro I didn’t and don’t scumread it was a content push, tiger I think I caused very reasonably and there was a full discussion about the rationale behind it like I’m not scum just because it was directed at a newbie, that makes no sense.

I never said it was an intense push? But I maintain it was bad progression. You said his posts were fine, and that it's slightly towny for me to confidently townread Hydro, but then you vote him? Didn't you say his posts were fine? Also, what is a content push? If you're saying he should post more than one line, surely you've played with Hydro before?
With that I meant you’ve used the bad progression to form a push of your own onto me but yeah the phrasing didn’t really say that. The content push was doing something outright wrong / weird in order to generate content among the playerbase. Not really targeted at Hydro himself. Like the bad progression is correct, yeah, it was and that’s why I chose to do it on Hydro, I just think you’ve hard overreacted to it (especially if you posted since the Hydro vote which I think did happen and didn’t note it at the time).

I p much always case my votes when I make them which I didn’t here, like I’m p sure me scumreading Hydro isn’t even on Neon’s sheet lol.

I have not played with Blazade ever in a smogon mafia game, I think.
Oh. Perhaps that’s true. Well, Blazade talks like this as either faction he’s quite an analytical player and does talk about mech.
 
I think this is pretty NAI for me ngl
Yeah and celever thinks he’s unreadable and I keep getting told people have higher expectations of me and I think I’m shit

my read reasoning will develop over time and it’s not like the activity stuff is the sole read source it’s just a good indicator for me going into each game w/ you
 
Like the bad progression is correct, yeah, it was and that’s why I chose to do it on Hydro, I just think you’ve hard overreacted to it (especially if you posted since the Hydro vote which I think did happen and didn’t note it at the time).
Nah I'm trying to only post in 2 waves a day this game, one in the morning one in the evening. Basically read the first half of the thread and second in the evening
Right but what are the parallels besides it’s both their first games? Cos that’s not really enough of one
They're just easy misvotes if they're town, pretty free if you're scum
 
Yeah and celever thinks he’s unreadable and I keep getting told people have higher expectations of me and I think I’m shit

my read reasoning will develop over time and it’s not like the activity stuff is the sole read source it’s just a good indicator for me going into each game w/ you
Nah you're pretty good. Ironically I can't read you that well
 
Celever's responses were ok, but not inspiring enough to really change my read on him. I await Blazade's posts and hope he will make some reads. Have a feeling this game is going to be a toughie.

Good night, for real this time!
 
Nah I'm trying to only post in 2 waves a day this game, one in the morning one in the evening. Basically read the first half of the thread and second in the evening
Fair enough, I think I did Hydro thing p early today but I trust your account of it lol

They're just easy misvotes if they're town, pretty free if you're scum
I mean I agree Toaster was an easy misvote, but I don’t think tiger is an easy one at all. I mean, I also thought my case should have gained traction, but it was primarily a pressure vote
 
FTR I’m p sure tiger’s had a consistent fawn response for most of the day so I don’t understand picking out just those recent posts as scummy
 
just cuddling up to someone and being like yeah your reads are all right lowkey seems like something a scumpair would do if ones new
I mean yeah my case earlier was kind of them doing that to you just without the cuddling lol

I see what you mean but my interpretation is they genuinely just felt like realiti’s posts were good (perhaps due to their complexity in part) and also I guess realiti defended tiger throughout it

Could be tiger inserting himself into realiti’s pocket but I can see those posts coming from town more often than from scum, especially since realiti is the other one and he tends to be active in scum chat I think
 
Currently catching up, about to go to page 18. On mobile, limited ability to do things. Re 403 realiti post on tiger entrance, that's another who thinks it was weird, so I'll go back and reread it when I'm not on this phone.
 
A Fairy feels like they are posting a lot while doing and saying nothing.

Celever is kinda just spamming the thread which makes it hard to parse out what anyone else is thinking or trying to do. I’ve done that in the past as both town and mafia though so it’s NAI just not super helpful for anyone who isn’t Celever. Can you post a reads list for me pls you may be the only person who is reading every word of every post.

Realiti I’m getting slight townread vibes from. It’s basically a soul read at this stage though.

Blazade you’ve posted a lot with no real reads hit me with some hot takes buddy.
 
Don't worry about it btw, early scum accusations fly around all the time early game, gotta just push through it :)

Btw do you in particular have any main scumreads atm?
im getting confused because people accusing me could be #1 scum or #2 villagers just making reads and same for the people defending me
 
im getting confused because people accusing me could be #1 scum or #2 villagers just making reads and same for the people defending me

Tbh it's usually not really worth basing your reads off who someone is voting, but instead why someone is voting them, at least for day 1.

Generally just a gut feel for the most part, see if you can see some posts that feel weird or contradict each other
 
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