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NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)
- Thread starter imperfectluck
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Yeah I mean our brains do work diff I just think JALMONT is a valid kill last night anyway which you don’t. I don’t think there were other obvious kills assuming scum wanted to hunt for protection before going for the claimed PRs (and, at that, there’s only one claimed PR who’s widely townread anyway in Ehmcee so they if they shot a claim they also thin the PoE or probably get blocked).
Like the most probable reason for one kill last night was the indie killed Ehmcee and got blocked, we can be fairly sure JALMONT was the mafia kill because getting shot is the usual mafia kill flavour
Yeah I get a sense of where your head is at now, it helps a lot.
Current votecount as of post 1629
Rostam (3) - Blazade, Tigershark/genius1, UncleSam
pulsar512b (3) - Ehmcee, Rostam, ZippyDoo200
Aura Guardian (3) - Celever, pulsar512b, skippergamez
Rostam (3) - Blazade, Tigershark/genius1, UncleSam
pulsar512b (3) - Ehmcee, Rostam, ZippyDoo200
Aura Guardian (3) - Celever, pulsar512b, skippergamez
This is too many damn words
Rostam wagon looks pure, but I think Rostam could still be town.
I'd rather go pulsar still
I'd rather go pulsar still
1037 iirc?
Literally none of the three examples you cited are ‘incorrect information’. But I do appreciate people actually reading my posts and trying so ty.
1. Neon making a sheet like that still feels towny to me. No I haven’t played with him before and you can argue it is NAI because he always makes sheets but his energy in updating it and constantly sharing it still feels towny to me. Plus he’s now the confirmed announcer and thus pretty much confirmed town via role so what exactly are you arguing here? That I should’ve backed off my (objectively correct) town read? Bizarre take.
2. She literally said ‘I am not giving reads D1’, that is an objective fact. No idea what you’re talking about re. A Fairy. And yes I still slight scumread her although now that you mention it my reasoning has changed so I’m glad you asked about it. Originally it was based on her seeming purposefully unhelpful, but now it’s because a significant portion of the game (including you) seem to like referencing Fairy but not actually pressuring / calling her out or reading her one way or the other. It is strange how many people just want to like co-exist with her without interacting and that reads like scumbuddy distancing to me.
3. Go back and re-read the post you quoted because I literally did not say that I scumread AG for the danger of being voted (although he wasn’t at end of day anyway so not only are you wrong on my justification you’re wrong on the objective facts as well), I said that it’s weird he would still use the mayor to try to save someone when it is a limited resource and based on his own posts he didn’t have strong feelings between the two vote options. You know, exactly the opposite of the straw man justification you tried to claim I made.
It is weird to me that you’re like trying to pressure me by just making up things I never said. I do want people reading my posts more closely though because it’s been incredibly frustrating and demoralizing feeling like unless I actively spam the thread people ignore my reads.
My scum reads at this moment are:
1. AG based solely on the fact that his role does not feel town to me, and his usage of it was strange - just doesn’t make any sense why town AG would pop a limited shot on Day 1 at end of day (I.e. he would have cancelled using it if he were town and had no stakes in the final vote, as he claimed). That being said his posting does feel towny and his role is proven, so I’m feeling this vote less and less.
2. Fairy. Hated their posting style all game (sort of active lurking under the radar), while literally everyone in this game is keeping a distance from her. If you think about it pretty much the only person in this entire game who has taken a hard stance on her is me. She has no many potential scum pairings that probabilistically she is more likely scum than average even if you don’t buy any of her behavior being strange.
3. Rostam due to the Jalmont evidence. I actually don’t hate Rostam’s posting in general but I buy Blazade’s role based arguments and the post I quoted was a completely awful one riddled with factually untrue things.
Town I still feel good about Realiti and im coming around to the HydrogenHydreigon read that others have made. This is on top of ImaginaryNeon who via role I think is obviously lock town. I’m probably going to base who I vote today heavily on who these three are voting.
Blazade and Celever could go either way but I still town lean both of them.
Ehmcee we haven’t talked about much due to the vig claim but I will point out it is a little sus of a claim given it has ‘the same flavor as the mafia kill’. Obviously I would never vote this slot until we get more info and if we see two kills with mafia flavor then we can confirm this role very easily, I’m just not ready to put them in lock town due to role until I see the proof.
realiti did you comment on the Jalmont / Rostam thing anywhere and I missed it? What’re your thoughts on them vs. Pulsar vs. AG? Also what’re your thoughts on other scumreads / towncore?
You should be smart enough to have put together the post I made above and now I want to know why you didn’t. How did you not notice that literally every one of his ‘cogent’ points was objectively false? Did you just not think through it clearly?
A few places, some close to when he used the vote, some today when being asked about it.
found this, meh on it supporting sam's point
What else does limits mean in this context
I mean Rostam is kind of parroting something I said before which is that it was definitely a dialogue moment. Even if your response to the multiple people who said "Neon always make a sheet it's just his NAI meta" is "I still think it's towny", it's important to affirm it instead of leaving it dangling. I think you're the only person in the game who thinks the sheetmaking is still objectively towny, so when people gave the counterargument the feedback is p necessary.
Sure, but in my view when she's town a fairy gives content-rich posts with stances in them, she just doesn't spell them out in super explicit terms. It's part of why I townread her right now, because she's been doing that all game. Even if she said "I'm not giving reads D1", she was giving reads during D1 based on how she spoke about various players. Your interpretation is fairly uncharitable and it's strange to keep going on about it both after she gave reads, and after people have pointed out it's uncharitable.
But... the person who he was trying to save by activating the double weight was himself. He activated it when he was lead wagon. That's also Rostam's point, that you were wrong about that.
Pretty sure cancelling it isn't an option. I haven't seen this specific role before, but I've never seen a role you can activate during the day and then deactivate if you change your mind later. This feels like digging your heels in because you were wrong instead of just admitting you were wrong about the timing.
Like AG's still scum IMO but not for these reasons lol.
[quote[2. Fairy. Hated their posting style all game (sort of active lurking under the radar), while literally everyone in this game is keeping a distance from her. If you think about it pretty much the only person in this entire game who has taken a hard stance on her is me. She has no many potential scum pairings that probabilistically she is more likely scum than average even if you don’t buy any of her behavior being strange.[/quote]
I feel like when it is clear you're not tracking the game perfectly you should shy away from the repeated "the only person who has done x is me" lines because a fairy has had about as many hard stances taken on her as the average player. Which sure, isn't loads, but at best it does feel you've disregarded the townreads of her and have only been searching for the scumreads, hence this mentality.
Which Hydro read? The rest of the paragraph implies town, but I've seen more scumreads of Hydro than townreads lol
This was the earliest post I could find about it, post 922. AG didn't correct it so it is safe to assume that it is an accurate interpretation. Aura Guardian can you please clarify if this is somehow not correct and if so can you confirm why you didn't clarify sooner?
So why aren't people voting Celever?