NOC Smogon Mafia Mafia (Won by the Mafia)

Celever said:
Wait it isn’t the glitchless category?

What do you know :blobglare:
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FWIW I genuinely am not sure who I would pick first out of the top group but probably Sam or Hydro. I’m worried I’m holding Sam to too high a standard though. Would vote any of the 3 TBH.

I am half inclined to self fulfilling prophecy myself and vote Rostam mainly because they haven’t been here p much all day and it’s giving defeatism that probably wouldn’t exist to the same extent if they were actually innocent. Still liked the posts they did make though
 
Wasn't Celever really buddying up to Ehmcee calling him vigilante?

Could be misremembering things. Seems odd to treat Ehmcee like that but still have him as null here now.


I am not interested in burying Celever here though. Celever you think pulsar is town, why? Just case that roight quick. I am interested in comparing her to past scum performances.
 
Celever said:
Posts from top group -> bottom group / neutral players have too frequently been parrots of bad cases or, as Blazade noted, repeating points that were already largely resolved by thread that then had to be rehashed again. It reads like players stating things they read in scum chat and basing their post off that. The links between are also a little looser between all, like skipper is there by consensusing a bit but minimal interaction, Zippy hasn’t interacted much with anyone and Sam has antagonised him. Bottom group pretty solidly fall into more of a “group” I think, because there has been more of a back and forth among members, but the top group tends to fall into the exact same conclusions which I’m p sure is worse for the members of it
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Ngl I don’t really think your groupings are right though the general ID of there being two factions seems spot on.

Fmpov the groups are
- me, Realiti, Hydro, Neon
- A Fairy, Celever, Pulsar

The rest sort of neutral

I’m not super sure where you’re getting Neon being in your group and I for sure do not agree with Blazade being in your group. For what it’s worth I’m totally down for a skipper or zippy vote today if someone can make a case for it being better than Rostam.

In other words while I agree with your overarching premise and I think it’s a good thing that you raised this dichotomy, I disagree with your classifications pretty strongly. Interested to see what others think though.

Finally, I’m actually not convinced at all that scum are more likely to be in these groups than in the neutrals (as evidenced by the fact that most of my top vote candidates for today are not in these groups, which as Realiti points out is a point of cognitive dissonance for you currently). Obviously I do think that you / Fairy / Pulsar is a viable scum team but if I had to guess which of that vs. most of the neutrals being bad was more likely I’d say the neutrals. It’s just in the best interest of scum to avoid taking hard risky positions in the early going in most cases.
 
anyway i am going to vote sometime soon and i will probably vote rostam based on the jalmont breadcrumb and i am telegraphing this bc whenever i hold on no vote until late in cycle and then decide to vote i dont telegraph it and people jump as if it's a shocking new development
 
ZippyDoo200 said:
Wasn't Celever really buddying up to Ehmcee calling him vigilante?

Could be misremembering things. Seems odd to treat Ehmcee like that but still have him as null here now.


I am not interested in burying Celever here though. Celever you think pulsar is town, why? Just case that roight quick. I am interested in comparing her to past scum performances.
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You know Ehmcee claimed vig right? Will case pulsar but not gonna be an ISO or anything I’m on my phone.
 
UncleSam said:
Ngl I don’t really think your groupings are right though the general ID of there being two factions seems spot on.

Fmpov the groups are
- me, Realiti, Hydro, Neon
- A Fairy, Celever, Pulsar

The rest sort of neutral

I’m not super sure where you’re getting Neon being in your group and I for sure do not agree with Blazade being in your group. For what it’s worth I’m totally down for a skipper or zippy vote today if someone can make a case for it being better than Rostam.

In other words while I agree with your overarching premise and I think it’s a good thing that you raised this dichotomy, I disagree with your classifications pretty strongly. Interested to see what others think though.

Finally, I’m actually not convinced at all that scum are more likely to be in these groups than in the neutrals (as evidenced by the fact that most of my top vote candidates for today are not in these groups, which as Realiti points out is a point of cognitive dissonance for you currently). Obviously I do think that you / Fairy / Pulsar is a viable scum team but if I had to guess which of that vs. most of the neutrals being bad was more likely I’d say the neutrals. It’s just in the best interest of scum to avoid taking hard risky positions in the early going in most cases.
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I’m very curious why you think Neon is in your group, his scumreads so far this game have been you and Zippy (granted you also took Zippy out of it)
 
a fairy, Aura Guardian, Blazade, Celever, pulsar512b, Tigershark/genius1

one of these is mafia.

I think its probably fairy, celever and pulsar. I would vote pulsar > celever > fairy
 
Celever said:
I’m very curious why you think Neon is in your group, his scumreads so far this game have been you and Zippy (granted you also took Zippy out of it)
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Can you point to where he scumread me? Maybe I’m misremembering something but I’ve had him at the top of my town list for a while so that’s what I’m basing the grouping on.
 
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