NOC 16P Role Madness Mafia (CANCELLED)

I find the pulsar/Joey 50/50 to be a compelling lead atm as they have disagreed on most things. Joey and Hydro have also disagreed a fair bit but tr each other iirc

M2H bumped me to null after an early townread and I was basically asleep during that period and I’m just pointing that out, since it wasn’t commented on at all by her
 
for those new to cel, one of cel's defining characteristics is treating "agrees with me = town" as a fundamental rule of gameplay
Ok I wouldn’t say that, but it is a townread metric if they agree with me on something I haven’t said yet myself

And this isn’t individual to me, mindmelding is smth a lot of people use. Others in this game have already :P (Ehmcee has with Flandrs which is a good read)
 
M2H bumped me to null after an early townread and I was basically asleep during that period and I’m just pointing that out, since it wasn’t commented on at all by her

Tbh I think my reasoning for you as a slight town was that your vibes reminded me of when I observed your town performance when I was scum... Nothing you did really downgraded you it was more just feeling like I spoke prematurely over time. Like I don't think I even remember a game you played as scum.
 
Shooting sabre is essentially a rand vote because they are floundering newbie and I’ll explain why.

Their stated position on the game is heavily self-pres minded. They are I think one of the people the host outed as an EIPPer so that is strictly consistent with their experience in a game like this. It’s a trap that many newbies go for anyway, so if anything it’s cool to see that it’s only affecting sabre so far.

The output of this mentality is anti-town, but the mentality itself is totally NAI.

Then you have the reads list which was following the mob as much as possible. Again, the output of this is anti-town and it’s a more unique newbie trap, but one that remains consistent to EIPP gameplay. I will note here that Flandrs criticised this mentality by saying it was his first mob game, which I thought was a good phrasing by him and I’m pretty happy to townlean Flandrs.

If anything this rings slightly town/wolf for sabre. It can be totally NAI and just a continuation of EIPP philosophy, but I think sabre would less instinctively do this if he was already handed a team.

ATM his alignment swings somewhat wolf>town>mafia in a vacuum. But the probability of finding the wolf immediately, and it just so happening to be on the newbie struggling the most to adapt to this style of game, is pretty low.
 
My initial reason for sussing the joey/pulsar interaction was the contrivedness in pulsars read, along with the exact same read on saber. Townhunting was a staple of the mafia451 playstyle so I really had no issue with Joey's post in isolation.
 
But I think you disagreed indirectly and as per usual you kinda disagree with a lot of players Joey, but tbf that is usual now that I’ve thought about it more
 
i don't know about mafia451

It's a now dead site that had some of the most high-level mafia players on the internet. Towns there were extremely strong. And one of the main methods was townhunting over scumhunting. Towns found each other very quickly and squeezed mafia out of games. Very cool place.
 
Tbh I think my reasoning for you as a slight town was that your vibes reminded me of when I observed your town performance when I was scum... Nothing you did really downgraded you it was more just feeling like I spoke prematurely over time. Like I don't think I even remember a game you played as scum.
That’s fair btw, I don’t remember my games from that long ago much but I think I was probably town a fair bit

I also think my game notably evolved at the start of current revival tho so I wouldn’t put too much stock in my old meta
 
What’s their S/S eq based on

Mostly the triangulation thing with joey. The scummy parts are mostly on pulsars end but out of all the newbie slots they both went for saber with similar reasoning, then pulsar scumleans joey but chooses not to vote joey, and is somewhat weird about the prospect of voting saber when I pressed her, instead going for jalmont which is complete lhf imo.
 
It reads like how you might choose one partner to be chummy with and one partner to scum read in thread, but it's all really contrived. That's how I read pulsars interactions.
 
Mostly the triangulation thing with joey. The scummy parts are mostly on pulsars end but out of all the newbie slots they both went for saber with similar reasoning, then pulsar scumleans joey but chooses not to vote joey, and is somewhat weird about the prospect of voting saber when I pressed her, instead going for jalmont which is complete lhf imo.
You think JALMONT is lower hanging fruit than sabre to this extent? I think they’re both complete LHF
 
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