NOC 16P Role Madness Mafia (CANCELLED)

its also the case that it makes no sense to vote me over NE/Pulsar here. Pulsar, if you are town here NE is the vote here for you and not me. Unless you think Tommy and Genisu gave town a full role cop and a one-shot role cop. Tbf I think its also somewhat of a conflict with my role as well but its more plausible to me that town has 2 one-shot kills than that town has a full role cop and a one shot role cop.
 
M2H said:
its also the case that it makes no sense to vote me over NE/Pulsar here. Pulsar, if you are town here NE is the vote here for you and not me. Unless you think Tommy and Genisu gave town a full role cop and a one-shot role cop. Tbf I think its also somewhat of a conflict with my role as well but its more plausible to me that town has 2 one-shot kills than that town has a full role cop and a one shot role cop.
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i think you are absent of the role information way more likely to be scummy, but this is actually a fair argument because that is information we have

vote NightEmerald
 
Celever said:
This is valid but JOATs can dupe roles on their own faction (and actually usually do).

If you’re telling the truth then town has a revive LOL voting out Emerald for having a one-shot role cop when pulsar also exists is not particularly cogent this setup is wild
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this is making me consider a ne/cel scumteam
 
Celever said:
This is valid but JOATs can dupe roles on their own faction (and actually usually do).

If you’re telling the truth then town has a revive LOL voting out Emerald for having a one-shot role cop when pulsar also exists is not particularly cogent this setup is wild
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honestly like i assume if youre playing vs rolecop + joat + revive on town like scum must be fucking insane
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
maybe it's bias coming into play bc ive never seen a non-mafia joat but mmmmmmmmmmmm
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JOAT is genuinely more common on town

And yeah I was town JOAT in that JOAT10 game but that setup was built around the JOAT it’s a bit off

Anyway, usually JOAT isn’t that concerned with duplicating other roles on its faction. The purpose of town JOAT on a balance-level is that if the town cop gets voted out D1 we still at least get a one shot so we don’t get 0 info all game, etc. etc.. it’s basically an anti-swing metric

Which again, idk how commensurate that is with a REVIVE which is the epitome of swingy but anyway
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
can you use bad words my poor little english second language help had a minor brain implosion from that
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what m24 defines as tunneling is 'town overfocusing on other town instead of good scumhunting'
this is results-based/focused on like oh its town/town its BAD

vs

our definition of tunneling which is 'this person seems to be focusing way too much and only thinking about this one person as a scum candidate'
which is focused on like the actual thing happening only and not based on 'is this good or bad'
 
Wrt Pulsar. Pulsar's progression on the claim was horrible. The buddying between Celever/Pulsar and now the fact that they literally cannot be anything but t/t or s/s (or maybe Celever s Pulsar t??? Somebody check me on that) as well as the buddying with Neon (RB) is like wow...

Like yeah I was kind of a jerk in strongarming the massclaim but its also the case that town is getting a TON of value out of it.
 
Celever said:
JOAT is genuinely more common on town

And yeah I was town JOAT in that JOAT10 game but that setup was built around the JOAT it’s a bit off

Anyway, usually JOAT isn’t that concerned with duplicating other roles on its faction. The purpose of town JOAT on a balance-level is that if the town cop gets voted out D1 we still at least get a one shot so we don’t get 0 info all game, etc. etc.. it’s basically an anti-swing metric

Which again, idk how commensurate that is with a REVIVE which is the epitome of swingy but anyway
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honestly this is just continuing to make me want to say hydro/ne/m24 as a scumteam
 
M2H said:
Wrt Pulsar. Pulsar's progression on the claim was horrible. The buddying between Celever/Pulsar and now the fact that they literally cannot be anything but t/t or s/s (or maybe Celever s Pulsar t??? Somebody check me on that) as well as the buddying with Neon (RB) is like wow...

Like yeah I was kind of a jerk in strongarming the massclaim but its also the case that town is getting a TON of value out of it.
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oh youre admitting youre a jerk now thats weird progression to me. also what value did we get? revealing revive?
 
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