Recent content by 1337roll

Well if you're using choice scarf, idk why you would still need 252 in speed EVs. 96 ev scarf greninja already outspeeds 252 speed noivern @choice spec and genesect with 252 speed @choice scarf.

Which is the thing, unless you can overpredict the oppositions Genesect switch and hit it with an HP fire immediately, you're either switching into a Genesect attack or your scarf locks you in to your other coverage moves (or you can predict and u-turn the hell out of there), which you would be...

My issue is if the opposition Genesect user predicts a greninja switch, it's OHKO with u-turn and/or bug-buzz and possibly thunderbolt. 252 SpA Genesect Bug Buzz vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 368-434 (128.6 - 151.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 4 Atk Genesect U-turn vs. 4 HP / 0- Def Greninja: 408-482...

Greninja Lead only checks scarfsect without doing much else, I find it a waste to let Greninja be the lead to check only lead scarfsect while putting down other great lead options. I don't disagree with the fact that HP Fire is a guaranteed ohko on scarfsect if the ninja gets a pretty scarf as...

I understand your point perfectly. However, Genesect is in Uber Tier and regardless, pranksters are also very Common as a lead. A sableye lead with will-o-wisp onto a genesect lead pretty much makes genesect useless with the x0.5 attack burn debuff. There are other counter leads to genesect...

Though I wouldn't use Greninja as a lead, and I would never use it as an all out Sweeper. IMO, Greninja functions well as the sweeping scout, coming in late game to get rid of weaker oppositions. Status pranksters just shut down Greninja immediately.

So would you go for HP fire instead of Surf? Cause Protean makes everything STAB anyways

He can 2HKO everything you just stated bar Ferrothorn with surf though; given that they're weakened from status or stealth rock/spike damage which is your preceding situation.

Grass Knot is for bulky waters that will pretty much destroy Greninja, regardless of early, mid, late phase. examples of suicune, feraligatr, jellicent in the late game cannot compete with 122 speed grass knot. HP fire is only good for skarmory I find as any metal type running sturdy can OHKO...

I'm currently running a Greninja with: Greninja@ Focus Sash/Expert Belt Ability: Protean EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Hasty Nature - Surf - Ice Beam - Grass Knot - U-turn I'm debating if protect is a good move on greninja or not and which move I should be switching it with. I want to play...