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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Preferably Zapdos if they have it. Smeargle and Vaporeon may also work. Easy taunt bait? 0 SpA Vaporeon Surf vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 288-338 (80 - 93.8%) Talonflame is also Scolipede's worst enemy, by the way. You cant lead with him, you cant switch in after only +2 def, etc. 252+ Atk...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Nothing. Thats why you dont lead with Ninjask if the opponent has a super effective priority. (Scolipede cant take a brave bird before at least one iron defense either) 252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ninjask: 160-188 (49 - 57.6%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    You misunderstood my poorly constructed sentence, particularly the meaning of "job". I didnt meant he should choose one type of boosting and always go with it, just have some consistency with his arguments. Whenever Scolipede can set up ID, the argument of trivially attained def and speed pops...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Guess which pokemon can also do that with the exact same efficiency? Ninjask. Stop switching Scolipede's job back and forth from defense+speed to just speed whenever it suits you. Pretty sure trying to use ID in front of something that can one shot you with a simple flamethrower, even at max...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Amazing post, but I really want to know how "fat bug's best friends werent OP last gen because all their arch nemesis were only nerfed/banned recently" turned into "We should neglect this broken thing because weather was even worse". If anyone is neglecting a great evil, its the crowd who wants...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Hiding from the massive weather wars since they have a history of being weak against huge special pressure? Pretty sure this was answered several times already. Lets pretend for a second that the only change is Scolipede getting speed boost and fling this team into gen 5 : 252 SpA Ninetales...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Bonus addition since it was bothering me : Taking out 2/3 of my reasons (dragon claw to break subs when baton to mime + encore could happen and a third dance when he saw a sub up) and concluding I am an ignorant coward with just the first one is ignorant and cowardly. Read this over and over...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    A replay filled with mistakes doesnt illustrate anything. If your opponent has absolutely no idea what to do against baton pass, then your replay is completly useless. I am almost expecting you to post someone shell smashing thrice in a row while the opponenet sets up hazards and then say "shell...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Let me guess, you will go back and edit that part too? Are you really saying that Dragon dancing against a baton passer that has higher speed, is spamming substitutes and has a Smeargle on his team is subjectively a mistake? He didnt even attack when he saw the intact substitute at the end of...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    If the problem is exclusively setting def+speed and you're already going as far as banning pokemon+move combination with Smeargle to spare his other sets, why not iron defense Scolipede instead of Scoli?
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    No, you're the one missing the entire point. I agree that Scolipede is the biggest offender in BP teams and that a ban against him would make these teams much more manageable, but your whole argument is filled with very ugly exaggerations. You claim the opponent made no mistakes when he clearly...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    - 1400~1500 is not enough, try 1760+ - One replay is useless and wouldnt prove a team can deal with BP. We're way past that point and Haunter has already stated that multiple times. - That replay was re-posted(from a dozen or so pages ago) as sarcasm, since all the replays I quoted are also...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Thats the point... The re-posted replay is almost as bad as saying Scolipede tanks 3x shell smashes when it lost over 50% hp from a single unboosted move and never faced the Cloyster again.
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    "set up multiple times with ease" = Had to baton pass just speed boosts in the first time, was against a scarfed hydro pump in the second... both of which could be easily done with a Ninjask. "how Scolipede overcomes offensive pressure from M-Pinsir and Talonflame" = Scolipede wasnt in the field...
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    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    +1 0 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 274-324 (101.1 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 0 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Bisharp: 202-238 (60.4 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Do you even know what a Sylveon is to begin with? The only way you're...
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