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I don't really like sucker punch+choice band as most people aren't attack twice when they see sucker punch. However with life orb you only do
53.57% - 63.10% to Hippowdon (max HP + Def)
which isn't a guaranteed 2hko w/ leftovers.
though you still always 2hko TTar and Slowbro
and while you...
Guts users don't seem to be the biggest problem with t-spikes to me though. Other than heracross what other Guts users do you really see. Ursaring maybe but they may even have a burn orb anyway, so toxic helps you. Swellow is immune to spikes. Hariyama can hurt you but those aren't...
good warstory....though you should have lost (no offense) but if scizor doesn't have any speed EVs why is it using agility in that situation. I would think everyone on shoddy runs a +speed Azelf. Should have just X-Scissored your azelf.
I'm assuming he kept setting up subs to try and get some...
NP, I don't think there is much doubt about the effectiveness of the set. Clearly, none of these "counters" are typical in the current metagame. I mean really... low/no speed Breloom and Focus Punch Weavile are not exactly popular choices at the moment.
Closer to the current metagame are the...
yeah I guess thats a good enough reason, although being able to outspeed scarfers after an agility is an interesting prospect....but I guess the loss of power vs a DD isn't worth it
Here's a question that I've been wondering....why don't people use Agility on Dragonite? It's basically the only move that sets it apart from Mence/'Nite. Adamant Scarfchomp hits 455 (454.5? don't know if that rounds up or down) with 252 speed EVs. And the standard only has 224...which would...
this is interesting because i've been thinking about adding Flamethrower to my 'Vire to at least stop it being walled by tangrowth. So i'm in favor of this new set...especially because the standard set has some easy wall options.
I dont' really like Life Orb though as if you run into a wall...