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    Palafin Suspect -- Qualified Discussion

    I am 100% on board with that, thanks for clarifying. Arguing that it is strictly necessary just seemed an impossibly high bar to clear. I hope I didn't come across as needlessy pedantic for belabouring this point, but I had the impression that a certain emphasis was put on this wording by the...
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    Palafin Suspect -- Qualified Discussion

    While I appreciate the concern, I assure you that my well-being isn't in any danger. I’m not suggesting that the ban should be overturned simply because it was a council ban. Rather, I’m arguing that the criteria we use to evaluate whether Palafin belongs in OU or Uber should not be influenced...
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    Palafin Suspect -- Qualified Discussion

    The key distinction to make, in my view, is that this mon did initially begin in OU. It was subsequently quickbanned by the council without broader input from the community. Now that the player base has an opportunity to weigh in, the burden placed on them should not be excessive simply because...
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    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 16 - Zero To Hero

    That is a drawback that should be discussed separately from the damage calcs of its hero form. I mean youre gonna be trading their sash for rocks regardless of who you lead with, aside from some very specific answers, thats the whole point of suicide leads. And yeah the examples I gave were in...
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    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 16 - Zero To Hero

    Its without a doubt still a downside, I just think its less of a downside compared to bulk up sets. I wouldnt qualify losing that much hp on a Landot for example as a free turn. It can in certain matchups absolutely be worth it for the Landot to take the chip to keep momentum and get some rocky...
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    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 16 - Zero To Hero

    In the example given Palafin switched in /got pivoted in on Landot as it was rocking, hence me leaving out the intimidate. Thats the only scenario in which it could possibly get two free turns as proclaimed
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    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 16 - Zero To Hero

    Cb sets are much less of a liability in that regard. To take your example you could simply outspeed the Landot and flip turn forcing it to eat a huge chunk of damage 252 Atk Choice Band Palafin Flip Turn vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Landorus-Therian: 216-254 (56.5 - 66.4%) You also threaten to just...
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    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 16 - Zero To Hero

    It is important to note that all these calcs excluding Palafin include an item (or weather) significantly buffing their damage. Add a mystic water or CB to the mix and Palafin will hit noticeably harder. That isn't to say its broken, but just something to keep in mind when doing such comparisons...
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    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 16 - Zero To Hero

    That is a tough bar to clear. It is argued that a 50+1 majority is sufficient to undo a council ban, as this represents the mon’s first fair trial so to speak, but then the DNB side needs to argue that it's inclusion in OU is necessary? Of course its not necessary to unban it. Would it not be...
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    Resource SV OU Indigo Disk Viability Ranking Thread - (update on post #1101))

    Is there a specific Latios set you guys are having in mind with the Latios placements? Also really appreciate getting a sneak peak ahead of time and seeing how the opinions differ so thanks for that
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    Gliscor Suspect -- Qualified Discussion

    There’s been a lot of discussions about the strengths and weaknesses of gliscor already so I’ll keep it brief. What ends up being the decisive factor for me is that there is no other mon that has such a death grip on lower usage mons greatly reducing the diversity in the tier. Just to name a...
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    Resource SV OU Speed Tiers

    The 289 Kyurem should say neutral not positive. Also I would strongly suggest cleaning this up a bit. There are so many irrelevant Benchmarks in there which just water down the chart and make it harder to check for relevant benchmarks. In particular there are a ton of +1 mons with neutral nature...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    You are mistaking the role of Gliscor in a battle. The problem Gliscor presents boils down to three things: 1. Few things can actually switch into it. This is the only point you touched on so I'll give my thoughts on your suggested answers regarding this point. a. Gliscor cant touch you either...
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    Resource SV OU Teal Mask Viability Ranking Thread

    Webs just seems very matchup fishy rn. It's by no means bad and Ribombee is very reliable at setting them up making this one of the strongest iterations we've seen in a long while but the main problem as I see it is that Gliscor balance doesnt care one iota about Webs and a lot of offensive...
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    Resource SV OU Teal Mask Viability Ranking Thread

    I believe the point of grassy terrain is mostly to negate chip damage not to boost your grass type attacks. You can run the same sets as always. They are much better in the sense that balance teams are much more common again and Ursaluna can kill something whenever it enters the field. It also...
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