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Just therorymoning, but Magnezone seems like a decent counter as long as it has hp fire or fighting.
Something along the lines of:
Substitute
thunderbolt/Thunder
Hidden power Fire/Fighting
Filler
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
So there are two ways for a pokemon to be banned in UU then. Either it becomes too powerful and is thus gets promoted to BL or its usage goes up and it gets promoted to OU.
I assume usage is based solely in OU matches as opposed to all matches?
If I understand the tier system correctly; the dividing line between UU/BL is purely based on power alone. Usage does not play a part here. While the dividing line between UU/OU and BL/OU is based purely on usage (or popularity alone).
That said, I think people need to realize that placement...
@VKM: That Flygon is a great Idea! I might breed myself if I have some time.
Wailord @ Leftovers
124 HP / 132 DEF / 252SPDEF
Sassy
Water Veil
~Curse
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Hydro Pump / Water Sprout / Waterfall / Rest
Watersprout for Trick room teams, Rest of for longevity and Waterfall or...
Trapinch also has access to Quick Attack, making it a very viable revenge killer (w/ arena trap).
Also, I think it may be beneficial to separate the Trick Room Enablers into two categories. Those that use Trick Room + Explosion/Self Destruct/Destiny Bond and those that can set up Trick Room...
I can give you an example of a typical breeding chain. I'm currently breeding timid spoink; so I'll use that as an example.
Breed for the mother:
x/x/x/x/x/x wild spoink + x/x/x/x/x/31 random ditto = x/x/x/x/x/31 spoink
x/x/x/x/x/31 spoink + x/x/x/31/x/x/x random ditto = x/x/x/31/x/31 spoink...
Hypno might work as it has Insomnia and wish; however, Grumpig won't has it doesn't have any recovery move save rest.
In either cases; they are severely outclass by Cresselia who has the same typing and a similar movepool while being immune to ground.
I actually dislike Fireblast/Flamethrower on Flygon. U-turn and Roost is one of Flygon's most important moves, even on a timid Flygon. These two moves is the only thing that differentiates it from its cousin Garchomp.
With U-turn, it can swtich to any counters of the current Pokemon. I...
@Tailwind: It seems to me that the 252 Attack is a waste when your only attack is a 20 BP non-stab attack. If you want to go with with that moveset, I suggest moving the Attack IV's to HP and Def/S.Def.
My lead is:
Butterfree @ Focus Sash
Jolly
20 / 31 / 31 / 8 / 31 / 31
252 Attack /...
Hidden Power breeding is very annoying sometimes. Try breeding for HP Ice anything, and like 1/2 of all your good IV pokes have HP Dragon or Dark. Its really annoying. I find myself screaming + or - 1 def!
I know when a pokemon has been put to sleep by spore, it gets a sleep counter from 2 to 5.
My question is if this works the same for the other sleep inducing moves (save rest) like hypnosis and sleep powder. That is, is the minimum and max the same?
I'm pretty sure I have the best flygon (nearly killed myself breeding it) though it might be because I haven't seen another. My HP Ice Rotom is pretty awesome as well.
Also, I think my Jolteon is good but no where near the best.
This is a rather interesting idea for a format, however I don't see this replacing nor existing alongside standard/OU/UU. Mainly because of the fact that I don't enough people would support the format to make it viable. But I do think that this can become one of those fun quirky tournament...