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As I have said before you can eventually wear down Samu and Lu with damage, your own hazards or status. Gliscor is immune to spikes and status and can recover most of the hp it loses with a few protects. Lets say we ban Golden John Doe. Gliscor will just keep setting up spikes with only Corv...
The main difference between Gliscor and Ting-Lu or Samu-H is that Gliscor has more longevity. With Ting-Lu you can make progress against them with damage and status. Gliscor is immune to status and can just recover off any damage by protecting a few turns. This means that spinning spikes or...
I don't see how a metagame where you basically have to run HDB spam + Gliscor and Clef is good. As I have stated in my previous post, Samu and Ting-Lu can keep spikes up as easily as Gliscor because they can't switch in as easily and don't have the longevity Gliscor has. The main problem with...
The problem with Gliscor is that it sets up spikes WAY too easily. Samurott-H finds it hard to switch in and is often used as a suicide lead to get spikes up which can then be removed. Ting-Lu can switch in more easily than Sam and can keep getting up spikes more easily but no recovery outside...
This doesn't really work because Gliscor can just protect to get the toxic orb activated and then switch to a counter for the pokemon. The only way it could really work would be to lead with a set-up pokemon but the opponent may have a pokemon that can actually wall your set-up mon even after...
Ok after reading and responding to the posts and deliberating on the question I have had a change of mind. I don't believe Gliscor is broken in the conventional sense that it has no counters but I do believe that it is having an unhealthy effect on the meta and while I do thing that part of that...
Sure, Gliscor has few pokemon that can actually counter and it has ways to get past its checks but I'd argue that that is the case for many pokemon. A lot of defensive pokemon that are called counters to offensive pokemon can lose to them if they get chipped by other pokemon or hazards. Pokemon...
I am currently laddering to get suspect and if I get my vote I will be voting to not ban. Yeah gliscor can be annoying and is quite restrictive on team building but I don't think it's too restrictive. There are plenty of pokemon that either wall or counter gliscor. Clefable can take toxics and...
Thank you for the feedback, I will consider improving my matchup against Iron Valiant. The main probelm I have with adding Dondozo is that it makes me much weaker to SpA attackers like Specs Dragapult and Walking Wake. Zapdos also becomes a bigger problem because there is nothing to really block...