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I mean I think the main flaw in this argument is that Valiant is a problem without sleep, the mon has dodged a suspect all gen. So when you put it like that you have 1 mon that should've been suspected and banned months ago as one of the main reasons to ban something, and the other is a pokemon...
This implies that sleep is problematic enough to consider for tiering action, which I'm of the opinion it isn't. Which is my point. Banning Para would be stupid, so would banning sleep.
I think if sleep gets banned inevitably so does Para. It's the same shit, and only in the saltiest parts of gen 8 did I ever want T-wave to legitimately be banned. Hard do not want to be banned.
I cannot fathom possibly thinking Sleep is more broken than Tera.
I'll go ahead and throw out that I was against banning BP in gen 5 too, Espeon was the problem and should've been banned just like Darkrai is the problem with sleep and should be banned.
You guys do realize that the mon was good without Stored Power, right? It was Magearna because it has a bunch of relevant sets and if you guessed the set wrong you just lost the game or at least a huge amount of momentum. It was an absolutely absurd revenge killer even without setup because of...
God please get Tera out of here, I can not fathom how anyone can possibly think it's healthy at this point where almost every ban we've had has been because of it.
Also quite frankly I'd rather a Booster Energy discussion than a Hazards one, I genuinely hate what Booster does to the meta.
I'll be real most of my games I just send it out to eat a Supereffective hit, it takes 10%, my opponent switches on what they think is Calm Mind and then they take 60% from Starstorm. This mon would be broken without the ability to Mega-Evolve on god.
This thing is Magearna, it has like 5 top...
Annihilape - 3 : It's fine, eats shit to hazards super hard. U-Turn andies are the main victims.
Baxcalibur - 1 : Kyurem eat your heart out his ass better be going right to Ubers too.
Gliscor - 5: Shit is fine, didn't need to get thrown into the sun for Ghold's crimes.
Landorus-Incarnate - 1...
Yeah it was pretty dece in SWSH OU because it was fat and could 1v1 the other fat things like Conk. With how overcentralized OU is with Ground type I could see it fit onto Fat Balance or BO. Also it learns Whirlpool for stall which is funny.