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I really did not intend to do this, and as mentioned I don’t think subbing should be allowed past a certain point in the future. I think it gave me an unfair advantage here.
First and most importantly: I am sorry to any town who I inadvertently gave false hope to, it was 100% not my intention to BM in any way or to drag things out. As I posted in the mafia Discord server:
Basically, I was waiting for host confirmation before voting Jalmont and potentially giving...
Knowing that Cel is clear changes the math on this, I was pretty sure that no vote and sending the game into a drawn state was the best play before that. However, it becoming a 50/50 pretty much always means that the preferred vote option is going to have a >50% chance of success, and thus is...
Reading still, just posting to confirm I saw the votes and am not hammering, which I think mech clears me? I agree that I am unfortunately apparently a bad NOC player whose soul read on Celever was wrong, he seems 99% cleared and I’m very surprised that wasn’t brought up until today lmao
Please go read my very first post (1580) and tell me again seriously that you still think this is a possibility (i.e. that I was not aware of the game state yesterday). I very clearly stated that Celever and Peum were hard buddying / pocketing each other. I'm surprised that you would miss this...
Eh, on point 1 we may have to agree to disagree, it's more of a meta read and not solely about the kills but also control of the general game state, as I mentioned.
As an observer I objectively thought that you were the most towny of the three of you. After subbing in and reading a bit more I think I've come around to the idea that Peum is a bad vote / fairly unlikely to be mafia, and Celever does have very good explanations for everything he's done + is...
Ok on a re-read I now see that the post I quoted, while noteworthy in terms of being horrible foreshadowing, was not a serious attempt to push Phoopes at that early stage. That did happen later so it doesn't really change much and it was because of 784 that it happened at all, but I agree that...
gotcha, yeah I just didn't connect the two when glazing over the many hundreds of posts from the early cycles of this game
371 is an interesting case that DBD was not as towny as he appeared based on the des vote, though it comes off as a little self-serving in retrospect
Well in this scenario you may have just been parking the vote and then been surprised by the Jalmont hammer, fully intending to stealth swap in the event Neon didn't show up. I do agree that you voting second is the most town-alignment indicative vote placement though.
On my phone for a bit but being real I started from the EOD vote count and only worked backwards until I found stuff explaining the relevant vote(s). Even now I don’t get how the two posts you quoted are connected but I’ll take a closer look at it soon, I assume it makes sense in context