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That isn't really a good comparison because lucario was flat out a broken sweeper that destroyed all teams and playstyles. One sword's dance and it was potentially a 6-0 since nothing could stomach base 145 STAB Adaptability base 125 close combat or bullet punch for the very few things that...
It's BL and unseen now without aegislash anyway. Even gallade is being discussed in the UU discussion threads as a potential drop. I don't really see how medicham's viability and usage statistics will differ with aegi than without when without it already isn't the best thing to be running in the...
I wouldn't say heatran can hurt stall that much. Magma storm's trapping effect goes away after awhile, and heatran lacks recovery to make it incapable of dealing with chansey, who has recovery and seismic toss for fixed damage. Toxic variations can cripple mons like mandibuzz, but a stall team...
Mawile's comparison with crawdaunt and azumaril seems very unfair imho. The thing that made mawile so deadly was the typing and bulk combined with intimidate and a massive movepool to bypass all checks. Mawile's priority isn't resisted by much (and what is resistant can't really touch mawile...
In my defense, I never said aegislash is the one holding a choice scarf. (although I kinda like the idea now.....)
I was referring to heatran sacrificing bulk and longevity to go on a more offensive role (max speed instead of HP) similar to how aegislash on certain sets forego recovery...
Heatran obviously isn't broken, it's just overcentralizing and extremely versatile, which describes aegislash as well (which honestly I can disagree on).
Also the same argument for "if heatran is scarf it loses bulk" applies to aegislash as well.
Jolly head smash loses bulk and king's shield...
Elaborate more, Why does gardevoir run focus blast? Why does altaria run earthquake (besides gross)? why does scizor run superpower? Why does serperior run hidden power ground? Why does pidgeot sometimes carry HP ground? Why does latios sometimes run EQ? Why does charizard run focus blast/EQ...
First of all:
Second of all: When did I say talonflame is like aegislash? Like really.. when? I said talonflame is checked entirely by heatran, that is all.
Talonflame=hawlucha
Heatran=aegislash
Hawlucha is checked by aegislash the same way talonflame is checked if not hard countered by...
I really find this as over exaggerating the overcentralization. There is no evidence on the suspect ladder that psychics become unviable in OU due to aegislash's presence in the metagame (lmao, aegi counters everything with access to shadow ball, status, and knock off?). Saying they're...
Eh, I wouldn't say rotom and gliscor aren't as versatile or splashable. Gliscor does has the opportunity cost of synergizing poorly with lando and garchomp, two defensive and offensive pokemon teams really enjoy having, but he is still capable of running multiple sets, such as sub staller, baton...
One thing I'd like to question,
What's exactly the big deal of magnet rise? I get it lets him get past hippowdon, garchomp, lando, etc.. but doesn't wide guard already do that? With the added benefit of higher priority and ever lasting while also blocking lava plume? I guess it allows him to...
I was tempted to make the same comparison, however I can't say king's shield is like spiky shield. For one, you're only taking some minor chip damage, and nothing more. The two users of it, common HJK users wouldn't use HJK on to begin with. Lopunny can't stay in on drain punch to begin with an...
I don't get at all what you're trying to prove thesecondbest, I want aegislash back as much as you but a flawed argument is a flawed argument.
I could say landorus-I shouldn't be banned because magnemite and aron can do shenanigans with endeavor, berry juice recycle, etc.. however they are...
And how does double switching, zard x/y, pursuit, and sucker punch not force them excessively either? KS atleast only drops a stat in a given scenario, these 50:50s caused by aegislash only take effect against particular moves and pokemon. These 50/50s are win conditions, and much more...
You don't have to HJK Heatran, you can EQ
You don't have to HJK aegi, you can EQ
Whatever you switch your potentially unreliable HJK user into for a better match up, it's going to get hit by a lava plume or something anyway. Saying you can identify which charizard it is by team preview is...