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  1. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    That's a terrible example; Magic coat does nothing for espeon or its team. Quagsire does have a reason to clear stat boosts; for the rest of his team. For itself? No, you're right, Quagsire has no reason to use haze. I get where you're coming from, and frankly having two or three "checks" (I...

  2. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    How does Haze Quagsire not count? I've seen several Quags run haze, even experienced players run it with their stall teams. (See "teh fgts dat nevr die") Quagsire's 4th move is very expendable, as all it really needs it Scald/Toxic/Recover. Haze is good team support (are you saying team support...

  3. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    I can respect that compromise. Frankly it's a decent idea.

  4. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Please show me one of these setups. I've seriously never seen a baton pass team actually work before.

  5. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Somebody ask for a counter? This is the first thing that came to my mind, though in hindsight it's more of a check. +2 252Atk Adamant Mega-Mawile vs. 4HP/0Def +6 Timid Espeon: 91.9% - 108.8% -- Guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock. If you think you can't predict that baton pass and set up a swords...

  6. Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Is Baton Pass (with specific reference to full Baton Pass teams) a problem for the development of the metagame?: No, not really. Baton pass in itself is not, or ever been, a problem. Many people say it's a "luck based" thing like swagplay because you need a crit to stop it, but Baton Pass teams...
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