Tournament SPL XVI Discussion Thread

Wow, tour finally over. It's a surreal feeling to work so hard for 13 weeks and end up with the win to prove it. People have said some very nice things to me abt my role in our SV core but I definitely want to highlight the prep and play of our other 3 starters and our subs. Ho3n especially was always on top of everything and made my job much easier.
I brought a lot of teams that I was very proud of this tour and some that I wasn't so proud of. I think posting my thought process for prep for each week like others have done won't be that helpful relative to the amount of effort it would take, but I do have notes + logs from every week if anyone has questions. Rather, what I'm going to do is post some of my favorite teams I've made this tour that got brought and then post my entire builder. I'm doing this because I think there's very little I did this tour that was extremely innovative, even though I have a reputation for using some wacky stuff. Most of what I did was just putting existing things together in a way that accomplished a goal. I really thrived from iterating on ideas from other incredible builders like Nat, Storm Zone, gxe, GALATINA, hellom, pinecoishot, SupaGMoney, Attribute, Lily, and oldspicemike. If it weren't for them sharing their ideas with me throughout the season, I wouldn't have had the inspiration to continue for 13 weeks of building for multiple slots. Hopefully me sharing these ideas publicly will be a point of inspiration for the next generation of builders to learn and grow.

Without further adieu, here are the teams I'm proud of:

:araquanid::pecharunt::moltres-galar::great-tusk::kingambit::iron-valiant: "Lock In Webs"

I came up with this before Week 1 started, and I would have brought it Week 1 if I hadn't psyched myself out. It did insanely well on ladder despite the Roaring Moon weakness, reaching #1 and 88 gxe in a little over 100 games. The idea was to take advantage of webs good matchups and pad out the worse matchups with Moltres Galar who autowins against Stall and breaks Ting Light Balances very well. Shoutout galatina for showing me this molt during I believe Critical League or SCL. Pech lures gambits most importantly but it also deals with some moons. Tbh, if I were to run this on ladder now I wouldn't go terablast pech though. I'd do dbond maybe. This actually probably does quite well on ladder now that moon is gone. I'd make some tweaks to the team, probably with Pounce/Scary Face on Araq for DDnite and a different Gambit item/tera.

:ting-lu::iron-treads::keldeo::hatterene::dragonite::weavile: "Biig Keldd"

This week was super hard for me to come up with something that I liked. I tested a bunch of stuff on ladder including some updates to my old Heatran RMT, but I settled on this the night before and changed the Dnite set a few hours before.

:ting-lu::latios::cobalion::tornadus-therian::pecharunt::primarina: "Breakfast"

This was another difficult prep week. The idea was twave Latios into someone with no Ting usage. The game ended up featuring two Ting Lus though. I think it was the highlight game of my season for sure. If you're wondering why there's a Cobalion on the team, so did my teammates.


:great-tusk::heatran::roaring-moon::gholdengo::samurott-hisui::enamorus: "F is for Fairy Spam, not fascism"

This game was ass but the team was good. I like Heatran as an offense piece rn because of role compression with steel typing, rocks, and flame body. Can run a couple different sets too.

:dondozo::hatterene::arcanine-hisui::great-tusk::kyurem::kingambit: "Tarrasque and the Witch"

This team actually cooks. I won without those spdef drops and I maintain that vk lol. This was one of those weeks where I needed a palate cleanser and just built something wacky that had been in the back of my head for literally months. It turned out really good, however. I got top 3 before I decided I should probably stop laddering with it. Also made a version with AV Quaquaval > Dondozo + Bulk Up Lando-T > Tusk that I got top 10 with this week.

:great-tusk::roaring-moon::deoxys-speed::scizor::primarina::dragonite: "Tyrants-core offense"

Not the version of the team that I ended up bringing but it would have done better than the wake version that I did bring. Taunt spam offenses have been a fixation of mine for a while because not only do they let the chip stick, they can prevent important utility moves like defog. This one ended up testing worse than the wake one pretty much by chance I think, but it would have been nice to have double encore into DugZa's prep for me which Storm told me relied on my reaction to Nat hitting me w the Unaware CM Clef + SD Scor combo and my reaction to that being "what a fish" (no hate).

Ok, I'll probably edit this with a couple more teams that others brought that I built, but for now I'll just drop my building folders for each week.

Week 1: https://pokepast.es/58d6ab016c11a732

Week 2: https://pokepast.es/31c2c7528fc69d8b

Week 3: https://pokepast.es/173aae0264c3089f

Week 4: https://pokepast.es/3824b441a3d9efb6

Week 5: https://pokepast.es/50ec1f12bd3da9cb

Week 6: https://pokepast.es/e142fe69005813bb

Week 7: https://pokepast.es/b2982e9644cae162

Week 8: https://pokepast.es/833bcb15d02166e6

Semis: https://pokepast.es/b775b2e3a828d114

Finals: https://pokepast.es/0d91ef34fcc2aeae

So yeah, like I said a lot of these ideas are bad or half-baked, but I wanted to put them out there anyway. Idrgaf if this is a bad idea for like, my scout or whatever. I'm always using new ideas from either myself or my friends and I really don't think my usage this tournament will give people much good information for my usage even in WCOP which is very soon.

Please feel free to refine the earlier ideas (later teams in each individual paste). However, I usually dropped the idea for a reason. Also, there's a lot of janky shit in here. Sometimes I needed to goof around to find something that was actually worth exploring.

Enjoy.

GO CLASSIEST GRAHHHH

I also want to thank 1LDK, ninth, and TheDuckChris for their phenomenal work this tour. They were always a joy to read.
 
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SPL XVI 1LDK + Ninth reports Grand Finals


Hello people, this is 1LDK, this is the grand finals and the final week for this SPL project, a lotta things have happened in these weeks, bans, unbans, crashouts, love stories, and all in between, I hope you all have been enjoying this project, I'm just getting out from a severe cold that had me in bed for 3 and a half days straight. As for SPL, we are down to 2 teams, the Congregation of the Classiest and The Circus Maximus Tigers, both teams have everything to gain, if the Classiest win, they will win infinite aura thanks to the controversial tiebreakers plan. The tigers, on the other side of the field, if they win, will cement zomog as a top tier manager for his ability to take a meme franchise and give it back to back grand finals appearances, who will take the trophy? Lets us see the final post

Also I think I clicked different font I cant actually tell its 0:47 and im genuenly about to start crying from frustration---

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:gardevoir mega: Congregation of the Classiest (6) vs (6) Circus Maximus Tigers :raikou:

:Deoxys-Speed: :Gliscor: :Zamazenta: :Ting-Lu: :Samurott-Hisui: :Pecharunt: S1nn0hC0nfirm3d vs 3d :Ninetales: :Ceruledge: :Walking Wake: :Hatterene: :Great Tusk: :Iron Moth:

1LDK: On the highlight of the week, we have sun vs fat, at first glance seems like 3d 6-0s via matchup, you'll soon find that the match was fought tooth and nail to the end. Ting Lu hits hat with a Ruination which ejects her into wake, samu-h answers the call of steam, and tusk comes in to punish, to then headlong rush into the incoming pecharunt, pecha tries to roll for malignant chain to no luck, dies. deo-s comes to the field and uses NP on the hat switch, now she gets struck by tbolt, tusk? Ice beamed, Wake has to take 92% of his hp to barely kill deo-s, samu-h tries to come in and roll over with sucker punch, but ninetales comes in to save wake and encore it. Ceruledge goes all in on the sweep grabbing an sd with tera fairy and resisting gliscor's attacks, once gliscor died to tera fairy tera blast, s1nn0h gets cocky, and puts zama in, at this point, its obvious he is going to tera, but tera fire would be game over for 3d, so now the tigers warrior has to make a hard call, "fuck it, we ball" zama turns tera steel and gets instantly turned into protein, all that's left, is 2 dark types vs a ninetales with healing wish, a wake thats ready for the healing wish and a 100% hp moth on the back.

:Iron Moth: :Raging Bolt: :Ogerpon-Wellspring: :Hatterene: :Iron Treads: :Dragonite: Kate vs Storm Zone :Hatterene: :Ursaluna: :Cresselia: :Iron Crown: :Samurott-Hisui: :Iron Valiant:

1LDK: On this fast paced game we see Storm Zone setting trick room to let ursa do his thing, while Kate tries to stall around the trick room turns, the man of the storm just clicks facade like a guy in the 1400 would. Dragonite seems like it's gonna eat ursa alive, but 1 facade combined with rocky helmet cresselia mean both the dragon and the dream bringer fall down. While having more mons, you might notice that Kate has a stronger position in turn 9, which leads to Raging Bolt taking a Psynoise, paralizing with Thunderbolt and killing with another one. Mixed valiant comes in and the -spedef nature shows in giving a straight knockout with rocks. Here. Samu-h goes for the encore, letting Ursaluna jumpscare Kate's hatt, then using tera fairy to avoid a draco meteor, eviscerating raging bolt aswell. Iron Moth comes in and proceeds to let ursa sink in the shit while using tera fairy dazzling gleam for Samu-h

:Clefable: :Roaring Moon: :Samurott-Hisui: :Gholdengo: :Landorus-Therian: :Dragapult: LpZ vs JJ09LIE :Kyurem: :Kingambit: :Zamazenta: :Primarina: :Ting-Lu: :Glimmora:

ninth: 10 AM EDT and it's time for the second game. LpZ has a double-dark Moon/Samurott/Ghold HO with Pult as the fastest mon, and Clef's there too - I could reasonably see it being a quaternary wincon and/or a secondary buffer against enemy HO. JJ09LIE has some Glimmora/Ting-Lu HO here, with a strong set of slow-to-mid-speed wincons capitalizing on the hazards in Kyurem, Kingambit, and Primarina - the second Prima bring for the Tigers this series. Zamazenta ties the speed requirements up. The game opens with LpZ's Ghold getting a free Make It Rain, only for it to do a whopping 25% to Lu, which feels like it's probably not max SpA. Samurott comes in as JJ Ruinates, then as JJ brings in Prima, LpZ opts to just Ceaselessly Edge and Knock the Prima before dying. JJ Protects on the incoming Make It Rain, then goes right into Lu on LpZ's Clef and Rocks up, which LpZ can never remove, then goes Glimmora to Mortal Spin away the Spike. Lando comes right back in and sets rocks back up, then a handful of chip is exchanged here and there, most notably JJ's Lu drops to below half and LpZ's Ghold/Lando are about half health. Clef comes in on JJ's Prima, only to walk right into a Whirlpool and subsequent Perish Song? You know what, this has to be M Dragon's doing. This Smogon Classic-ass set manages to trade 1-for-1 with the Clef despite being paralyzed. Things partially reset: JJ loses his Ting-Lu in exchange for half of Dragapult's health, and LpZ's killing U-Turn brings in Ghold. JJ responds with Zama, but LpZ immediately Tricks it a Scarf, locking it into Crunch (which kills the Ghold). The Scarf means LpZ can start setting up his Moon, though, and JJ has to go hard Gambit on the DD. LpZ pops Tera Ground as JJ pops Tera Fairy: EQ nearly kills, but Tera Blast leaves Moon in range of Sucker Punch. JJ gets the first turn right, Kowtowing on the Roost. Then he does it again. Then he does it a third time but gets EQed and dies; this is probably the safe play considering that a full health Moon might just instawin. Zama can come in to threaten the Moon, but Scarf Body Presses the Dragapult and immediately has to leave, meaning Kyurem is sacked to Draco. -2 Draco probably doesn't kill the Glimmora, so LpZ has to sack the Moon and go Pult for the revenge kill...unless the Glimmora is Scarfed, dropping the Pult with a second Dazzling Gleam. That's insane work and it secures the win for JJ and a 3-0 lead for the Tigers, as it can chip down the Lando enough for Zama to kill with Crunch.

:Great Tusk: :Roaring Moon: :Walking Wake: :Deoxys-Speed: :Enamorus: :Scizor: leng loi vs DugZa :Darkrai: :Primarina: :Zamazenta: :Great Tusk: :Dragonite: :Gholdengo:

ninth: First SV game of finals, Sunday morning, and we have a raw Walking Wake on offense. Is this a Booster set? There's a quite unique mixture of fast special mons on leng's team between Wake, Deoxys, and Enamorus, all of which you don't really see too much of these days. You also don't see a lot of Roaring Moon anymore because it's fucking banned, but still legal for this round and tiebreaks. DugZa has kind of a special offensey type build with a Primarina/Gholdengo/Darkrai core from slowest to fastest, covered by Zama and Dragonite for anti-offense purposes and Tusk for Tusk purposes. The game opens with leng's Scizor outspeeding Gholdengo and 2HKOing it, Knocking its Covert Cloak in the process (I mean I guess leng did bring Garg last week?) and eliminating DugZa's only Fairy resist. +Speed Tusk comes in on the Darkrai revenge attempt and gets rocks up, and when DugZa brings in his own Tusk leng Knocks its Boots, then goes Deoxys and Red Cards the Tusk out. It does end up pulling Primarina, which Deo can't do a single thing about, but leng Spikes up, stops too much setup with Taunt, and Knocks it before going down. The Scizor comes back in on DugZa's attempt to remove the Spike, and 3HKOs thanks to the aforementioned Knock. It's sacked to Darkrai for chip, and now leng can bring out the Banned Goon, Roaring Moon. Now she can easily live an Ice Beam and click DD - oh, never mind, the Moon got frozen. Carapinga. Now it has to die for free and leng's Enamorus has to Tera Ghost to kill it, still losing half its health in the process. (Contrary Superpower is cool I guess.) Not being Scarf means it's scared out by Zamazenta, and leng attempts to stop the bleeding with Tusk but DugZa reveals Crunch/Howl/CC, a funny set that also means leng's Endeavor/Taunt Tusk can't do a ton to it. The Wake isn't +Speed and similarly drops, and the game ends with Howl Zama mashing up leng's team and giving the Tigers a 2-0 lead. What happens with no freeze here? This is a fun thought experiment, I think. Darkrai dies here and then DugZa probably revenges with Dragonite, unless leng Teras Fairy the turn before and Roosts up, then maybe it survives ESpeed. Either ending probably hinges on the Tera for Prima...would have been fun to see played out.

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:Ting-Lu: :Iron Treads: :Ogerpon-Wellspring: :Pecharunt: :Zamazenta: :Dragonite: S1nn0hC0nfirm3d vs 3d :Ogerpon-Wellspring: :Roaring Moon: :Dragonite: :Landorus-Therian: :Gholdengo: :Zamazenta:

1LDK & Ninth: Yes that's right people, we are going to experiment and essentially fuse our versions of the game for this grand finals. So now we have the legendary rematch of Bombardino Cocodrilo vs Tralalero Tralala--- uhh we mean s1nn0hC0nfirmed vs 3d, the former is using a Ting-Lu and a Pecharunt as the defensive backbone. This is a super physically biased BO with Wellspring, Zamazenta, and Dragonite as offensive win conditions: Pecharunt is the sole source of special damage besides Ruination and maybe Treads, his spinner of choice. The latter is rocking full-on offence with no removal, similarly physically biased. This is the last official game where Roaring Moon is legal, and here serves in a double-Dragon setup core with Dragonite, and Zamazenta with Wellspring for even more physical setup. Gholdengo is the designated special mon, with Landorus gluing together utility. Ting Lu and Landorus-T start, Ting Lu hits a ruination and Lando gets rocks, treads on a balloon comes in to take the taunt. 3d decides to go to Oger-W on the spin, here 3d decides to swords dance, Sinnoh decides yolo and U-Turn, and he's rewarded as 3d switches to Dragonite (might not have had U-Turn and didn't want to risk Power Whip missing and instalosing, or maybe he's just not max speed, this play was seen as bad by the stours chat but I feel like the risk reward was reasonably scary, so I cant blame 3d for not doing the youtuber play). With Ting Lu in the field, it takes an EQ, rerolls dragonite into gholdengo and sets up rocks. 3d gets Oger-W back and heals it while forcing ting lu out, s1nn0h does 2 knock offs, the first one gets rid of Landorus's helmet, the second one hits Roaring Moon for tiny damage, The Moon is slower than her and the following U-turn on the dragon dance sure stung a lot more, Ting Lu takes nothing and Whirlwinds it out. Whirlwind pulls Zama, who loses Dauntless Shield, and Sinnoh covers both it and the Lando switch by going into Balloon Pecharunt: 3d sacrifices his Booster-less Roaring Moon to get a bit of chip on it. 3d subsequently deploys Gholdengo and Sinnoh sponges a Make It Rain with his Wellspring. The Tiger sacrifices his Lando to rocks in order to get his Dragonite in, and it chips the Wellspring, but Sinnoh reveals Taunt to prevent any setup threat. He subsequently goes into Balloon Treads to threaten Ice Spinner and force a switch to Wellspring. For the third time, Sinnoh's Wellspring comes in on 3d's as it SDs. This time, nobody switches - Sinnoh comes out on top and U-Turns for the kill. Now, Sinnoh can go Pecharunt relatively risk-free on 3d's Zamazenta and slowly, slowly whittle it down. He gets the poison and forces a Rest/Chesto, then Parting Shoots, then goes right back, but a series of defense drops forces him to Parting Shoot out again. Pech comes back, then it happened, the miracle 3d needed to get back in the game, a crit, brutally murdering that pecharunt like it was a guy who decided to fuck with you on the worst day of your live and now your beating his body senseless, he is begging for you to stop, crying for mercy, he wants to apologise because he is scared, but you cant hear him, his troat is being drowned in blood, and your ears are drowned in anger. Sinnoh's Zama comes out and Roars 3d's out. Sweep prevented. 3d brings in Ghold, and Sinnoh's got to sacrifice his Wellspring. But this just lets in his own Dragonite, who DDs up on 3d's switch to Zama. A second DD, just to make sure the Ghold can't fry him if it's Scarf. Then, Sinnoh reverses his fate from the last time he faced 3d, unleashing Tera Blast Fairy to oneshot the Zama. A second Tera Blast damn near kills 3d's Dragonite from full, though 3d breaks its Multiscale in the process. It's looking like a secure Dragonite sweep, and with one click left, Sinnoh makes his stance clear on where he stands:

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And with that, The Congregation of the Classiest, won SPL XVI, the franchise now has 2 SPL wins under their belt

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With the usage stats not currently updated, lets go over the awards


New Player of the Season - awarded to the player who had their first SPL appereance as a starter

Theres quite a lot of viable answers, but we wanna give the award to Leng Loi who had a lot of influential in building to the SV core of the classiest

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Substitute of the Season - awarded to the SPL player who came off the bench and contributed the most to their team.

We wanna nominate One Last Kiss for this award as he was the hero of the wolfpack OU core that helped them make the necessary push for playoffs


ninth's pick: Kate (Classiest)
This is the second time Kate has been summoned from the bench mid-season and subsequently gone undefeated in playoffs, taking down much more expensive threats like lax, Stareal, and Storm Zone in the process.
Honourable mentions: Ahy Wddicted, One Last Kiss, tko, PDC (TRVTH NVKE)


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Team of the Season - awarded to the best-performing, most influential, funniest, or simply sheistest team we saw all tournament. Must have debuted in SPL.

Evil ass clef team :ting-lu: :corviknight: :gliscor: :dragonite: :clefable: :weavile: Team: https://pokepast.es/de9dfa8aa0facde9 by Attribute

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Best Scheduling of the Season - somehow the scheduling interactions this season were hilarious.

Yovan "lick your balls" vs Niko, its more silly than malice https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/niko.283197/#profile-post-2642668/


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Game of the Season - awarded to the most thrilling, most entertaining, stupidest, weirdest, or most memorable game, whether a finals showdown or a meaningless Week 9 sub battle.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-833695 we wanna award it to the final TB beetween s1nn0h and 3d, many were thinking this game a dead even flip coin, not because of luck, but because both players are equally matched in terms of skill. Not only that, but many also though we were not getting this win untill McMeghan successfully defeated Baddummy


ninth's pick: [Classiest] leng loi vs Eternal Spirit [Raiders]
This is a pretty neat game by itself but the context is also important. This week, everybody spontaneously decided it was a perfect time to bring stall, and by the time this game came on there had been at least four stall brings and the evil-ass Clef team had made its debut. Imagine my refreshment when I clicked on this game and saw that not only were there two offensive teams with two Latios, but leng had also brought two shitters in Tornadus-T and Cobalion. Two of the wiliest builders in SV went head-to-head in a back-and-forth brawl, with techs like Low Kick Meowscarada, Sub/Nasty Plot Tornadus, non-Dice Icicle Spear Kyurem, and Custap Ting-Lu flying left and right. These two really managed to make Ting-Lu gaming interesting...that sequence from T20 with the Custap is super fun from Gama's successful scout to the hard Heavy Slam.


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SV Core of the Season - awarded to the collection of starters, subs, and managers that composed the best SV OU construct, considering price, effectiveness, overall records, and/or aura.

The Circus Maximus Tigers, they literally have all the same score lol

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Player of the Season - awarded to the best SV OU player of the season.

S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 9-4 record + 2 TB win, pretty obvious tbh

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with that done, its stats time!

Luispeikou 1-0
PDC 1-0
Arc 1-0
PkelSweeTforU 1-0

S1nn0hC0nfirm3d 9-4
Eternal Spirit 7-2
Lily 7-2
Attribute 7-2

JJ09LIE 7-4
Myjava 7-4
Dugza 7-4
3d 7-5
Storm Zone 7-5

Nat 6-3 (BANNED)
Oldspicemike 6-3
vk 6-4
clean 6-4
LpZ 6-5
Ewin 6-5
Kate 5-3
aesf 5-3
Hiko 5-4
bhkg 5-4
zS 5-4
Fogbound Lake 5-4
Ahy Wddicted 3-2
One Last Kiss 3-2

Leng loi 5-5
hellom 4-4

lax 4-5
pdt 4-5
Yovan 4-5
mimikyu stardust 3-4 (BANNED)

emforbes 3-4
mada 4-6
stareal 4-6
tko 2-4
Vivalospride 1-3
Danny 1-3
TheFranklin 2-5
mncmt 1-3 (BANNED)
Laroxyl 2-5
Niko 3-6
Fusien 3-6
crying 3-6
Pais 1-5

Fc 0-1
Harshet 0-1
Heileone 0-1
robjr 0-1
Ruft 0-1
Suzuya 0-1
Thiago Nunes 0-1

JUST ONE GALATINA 0-1
Vivalospride 0-1
Srn 0-2
Jytcampbell 0-3
TPP 0-3
DAHLI 0-3
AcrOne 0-4

And to end, some final trivia!

1) The overall record of all of the players is: 198-201, barely negative

2) Before this SPL, dice was the player with most amount of SPLs played without winning, being in 9 editions of this tournament without a trophy. With the curse finally broken, the new bearer is Star, who's last trophy was SPL XII

3) Joessh, won the SPL predictions tour with a score of 318-247 (56.28%). On this note, both ninth and I went the exact same record 275-290 (48.67%)

4) The indie Scooters are the only teams that have players in the entire spectrum of win-loss ratio

5) These are the color codes that we have used across this season

#c5ae9b wolfpack

#a6d1ef cryos

#2050d2 sharks

#a24111 tyrants

#11a291 raiders

#7e2da2 scooters

#ff3507 ruiners

#ff8902 bigs

#fde803 tigers

#985ea4 classiest

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And this was the final episode of the reports, not gonna lie, had it not been for ninth this would've been straight up impossible, this project cannot be done with one person alone, and I think he deserves a round of applause. Sometimes its hard, specially considering the time restrains and the amount of content you have to process, which means a lot of burnout, so you people giving likes really motivates us to keep going, as well as the positive tags we have received sometimes. Now, World Cup is rolling near, and I'll be participating with team Chile again, this means that, just like last year, there will be no project from me, whether ninth finds someone to partner up in the meantime, that's up to him. But now, it's time to go, thank you, and goodbye
 
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