Announcement Regarding the "Other Team Tour" in our Tournament Schedule -- OMCL is our new team tour!

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This has been a long-anticipated topic ever since the 2025 tournament schedule came out and we refered to our second team tour as something vague instead of explicitly stating "OM World Cup". Why is that?

Why are we considering getting rid of OMWC?

World Cups don't guarantee that each team/region has a fair chance at reaching playoffs for smaller sections. every WC we've run, we've had at last 1 region combine with another to help everyone feel included and have a shot at playing in OMWC. However, this ends up resulting in some regions either becoming very overequipped (we seriously let that bum ass dhelmise win 2020 omwc?) while other regions end up stretching themselves thin to fill up a roster to compensate. As a result of its inherent unfair nature, a lot of people tend to not like this format as much as team tournaments that involve drafting players, and the OM forum staff has hesitated committing their 3rd custom avatar prize to it.

What are we proposing instead?

- OM Blind Draft: Similar to OMPL; however, drafting works by a manager nominating a player, each manager submitting a bit do buy that player, and the highest bidder gets that player for that amount.

- Return of OM Spotlight League: We've tried this before, and while this was a fun concept that aimed to put a limelight on less-popular metagames in a hope to boost their communities, the tournaments ended up being short-lived due to the communities not having the proper resources to thrive in a tournament environment. While we are open to trying this again, we'd need to ensure that the metagames we select have the proper resources to make them more welcoming.

- Old gen Premier League: Exactly how it sounds. OMPL but with old gen OMs as the playable tiers, most likely including old gen favorites like ORAS AAA.

- OMPL 2: Literally just another iteration of OMPL later in the year.

- OM Snake Draft: Another draft format, but when it is a manager's turn to nominate a player, they simply just state the player they want and that player is added to their team until every team has x amount of players.

- Keeping the status quo: We continue running OMWC

What are the benefits of the new tour? Why do we need 2 team tours?

While we don't need 2 team tours, they're imperative to keeping our ladder metagames healthy year-round by getting insight from our tournaments scene as much as we get it from our ladder scene. Additionally, as I alluded to before, all sections get 3 tournament prizes now, so we can attribute one of our prizes to another team tournament custom avatar!

Does the community have other ideas for team tours? We want to hear your opinions before we move forward with voting for something.
 
Return of OM Spotlight League: We've tried this before, and while this was a fun concept that aimed to put a limelight on less-popular metagames in a hope to boost their communities, the tournaments ended up being short-lived due to the communities not having the proper resources to thrive in a tournament environment.
I think the largest issue with Spotlight in the past was a lack of player buy in, which a prize will help alleviate, and this helps promote a large part of our community that currently does not get much attention. Yes the formats will be less balanced overall than OMPL, but this gives them a chance to tier and grow their playerbase in a meaningful way. Hell, Godly Gift rode its Spotlight success straight up to perma ladder. This is my preferred option for those reasons.
 
Just going to repost what I posted in the "Suggestions for OM Improvement Thread" in regards to OMWC as it still stands.

Admittedly, I have not been present for the last few years - so can not speak for the last few iterations - but as someone who participated in previous OMWCs, it was genuinely one of my favourite OM team tours to participate in. Other players that I've spoken to have shared similar sentiments.

While it's not always the most balanced or competitive tournament, the community aspect of it is a lot of fun. There's just something enjoyable about teaming up with other players from your region - and it's interesting to see how the different regions approach different metagames.

Plus it's cool to have a tournament that integrates smaller communities like the Chinese OM players with the main OM playerbase.

I can understand that it can be a nightmare from a hosting perspective (getting 8 suitable teams, player eligibility, etc) and I don't really have any productive solutions, but I think it would be a shame to see OMWC go.

It was also kind of nice to have OMPL as the flagship "serious" team tour and then OMWC as a more laid back and fun tour - especially since a lot of players often get a bit burnout towards the end of OMPL

Edit: another thing I liked about OMWC, but forgot to mention is that it's nice to have a team tournament where there's a sense of legacy and being able to team with the same players again each year (with some new faces too, of course). That gives it a strong distinction from other tournaments we have

As a player who is mostly interested in the big team tours, I'd be a lot more inclined to stick around for OMWC than I would for a Spotlights Tour or one of the other proposed alternatives.
 
I think the second CA /needs/ to go to a team tour, the community is at its most lively when a big tour is going on and thats felt all across oms whether its the room, discord, or ladders. the only individual that isnt circuit poffs i think CA could go to is slam and thats obviously over already so cant go there. A second team tour shouldnt be taken away.

I know that one complaint about OMWC has been lack of participants, i think with a CA prize we're bound to attract more players (because apparently you need more than the honor of your country at stake to play mons?). Another one ive heard is that its kinda a bit unfair to everyone else bc europe is so stacked irt. players, as the manager of omwc europe for 3 years and running I can promise that the broken-ass team europe that makes certain teams play with the goal of "lets reach second place because europe is obviously winning" wont be forming this year, some sorta splinter will be made so that the tour is more competetive for everyone.

We cant have the second teamtour be just OMPL 2, because thats incredibly lame, i think it will ruin alot of excitement if its just "ompl but in the fall" bc that kinda kills the novelty factor of playing ompl.

Im also vetoing OMSL because thats been proven to not work, OMSD because snake drafts suck, and putting the CA in aaa/h/whateverpl because that is unfair to the members of our community that do not care about the specific OM that is being given the CA.
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i think that OMCL following the style of NUCL OR UUCL (yes i am aware that this tour hasnt even started yet but im posting to showcase the format!!) would be very fun to do. For one, i think it is perfectly suited to OM's, where many of our tours like majors, slam and circuit poffs have you playing more than 1 OM, so it would be a fun change of pace from OMPL/WC where 90% of people are stuck in the same tier for 6-7 weeks. Now obviously you only play one OM a week in a format like this but i still think that not being stuck to playing just one tier is gonna be very fun. I dont think the flex slots forcing you to play something you dont necesserily main are gonna be an issue because you have teammates that can help you prep, test and grind metagames you may be less familiar with-- its a team tour so relying on your teammates and talking with them should be incentivized.

I think there is a potential angle where Flex slots also let us include non-perma ladder tiers and give them a bit of representation. i know theres a significant amount of our community that is a lil bit alienated from the others because not everyone plays an OM that is in the circuit and not every circuit player is gonna go out of their way and play a tier if it isnt in OMPL or has a seasonal. Tiers like Shared Power / Inheritance / Camo have very passionate playerbases and im sure they wouldnt be opposed to signing up for a tournament if it meant they had a chance to play their beloved tiers with some actual stakes.

i think a format like this would be the best;
x4 team a flex
x4 team b flex

or

aaa
bo3 (this could be OMPL bo3 or it could be AAA + team A + Team B picks)
x3 team b flex
x3 team a flex

I hope we figure out a good solution to the second OMTT; for what its worth if CL isnt well liked and WC is unlikely to happen id love to see OGPL over anything else just because theres so many oldgen oms that are vastly forgotten and overlooked nowadays, unfortunately
 
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dittoing most of what pannu says in their post re: omwc, and as per my post in the other thread. i personally prefer oldgens pl > omcl sort of idea, but ut raised valid points about some of the oldgens being unbalanced / some tiers not having a clear consensus on what the best oldgen is to run. shorter post but if i think of anything else i'll edit it in
 
i think omwc is the way to go, pannu has brought up the idea of splitting up europe which will help as well as the fact that giving it a CA will obviously bring in more people.

OMWC is my preferred option but OMCL is decent too, none of the others i would care about at all
 
Personally even with stuff like proposed region splits I'm not a huge fan of World Cup. I have heard that it is generally a pain to host with region checking and stuff, and even with the proposals I think there is still a significant enough discrepancy in teams for it to be CA tour.

Also not a fan of spotlights and other proposals like pannu's including non-permas. These have generally not worked out that well, and the tiers are, with few exceptions ofc, not that developed and likely to be imbal for a CA tour.
Similarly, old gens, while having development, also suffer from imbal problems, except tiering becomes complicated too. Lack of ladder also limits innovation to an extent and this can be seen from the extremely high reuse rate in AAA and HPL old gen tiers.

Regarding draft formats, I think snake draft is just imbal and not great when we have straight up better options. BD is fine as an option that can be added to any idea if wanting to spice it up and differentiate it from auction, but regular auction works fine too for every case.

I think something similar to OMPL, but with a large enough twist is the best. This means the 5 circuit tiers + PiC as possible tiers and a draft/auction. I also think it would be cool if the tour encourages people to start learning multimetas since that helps grow playerbases and get more people into the competition for slam and circuit etc.

pannu's suggested format isn't bad for this, having basically all flex slots adds strategy when selecting slots and can easily encourage/force players to go into tiers they are less familiar with.

As an alternative, this is something I have been theorying:
Minimum 12 tiers: 2x of AAA BH GG MnM PiC STAB, can add extra but I think this works well as a baseline.
Every drafted player is allowed to play in up to 2 slots, but cannot be the same tier (e.g. UT can play AAA and STAB, or just STAB, but not both STAB slots)
Budget and team size etc similar to OMPL (8 + 4). Can be adjusted.
Can also add other limitations like only 4 players get to double slot each week to ensure uniformity.

This format helps naturally boost multitier players while still being fine for single tier mainers. It also gives flexibility for players to be slotted into different tiers instead of being locked into the same tier. Two slots also means every team theoretically can have more prep + test, which is good since thats a fun part of team tours. Two games a week should also be quite manageable, considering how Bo3 slot is at least two games.
You can also easily incorporate the flex slot from pannu to adjust the lineup if needed.
 
Old Gen PL > Underrepresented OMs = OMPL 2 > OMWC = Hackmons PL

- Old Gen OMs are currently only superficially represented in tours, with AAAPL/Hackmons PL really being the only regular opportunities for these metagames to be played at a decently high level. Even if the aforementioned tours do give the spotlight to their respective old-gen metagames, old gen non-AAA/Hackmons (like Gen 7 MnM, which was apparently well-liked enough to be made a Retro OM ladder at some point) are not represented, and it's probably not feasible to compensate by running significantly more PL-level tours for every meta with realistic interest in old-gen metas (MnMPL, STABPL, etc.).
- As respectfully as possible (and apologies if this is not a popular opinion), Gen 9 OMs are just not that engaging to play, regardless of any balancing attempts, and matchup feels like an overwhelmingly strong determinant of who wins games. This is pretty much entirely GameFreak's fault in that with a generally higher power level (and key elements removed from the game in Hackmons' case), balancing metas is significantly more difficult. I played numerous test games for every format last Hackmons PL and personally found old gen BH to be far more engaging in-game than SV BH, though again no one is to blame here
- As mentioned in above posts, the Pure Hackmons playerbase isn't represented in OMPL (though I won't argue it should be) and is relatively disconnected from the greater OM playerbase – this would be a good opportunity for community crossover.

- Gauging the threads of metagames that'd be realistically considered, a PL intended to showcase underrepresented OMs seems feasible in theory and unique enough to not be bland. The main problem is obviously the relatively dormant councils, though that'd hopefully change with potential council changes and the announcement of inclusion in a team tour
- OMPL 2 is also fine but I would prefer minor modifications over just making it a carbon copy. Finding the right balance of uniqueness to practicality is probably difficult, though. Ubers ran a 24-slot tour last winter but reduced team size and manager workload led to players not viewing that format too highly

- WC is inherently unbalanced regardless of balancing attempts and it's hard to evaluate if balancing attempts are successful until the tour's run its course. Wouldn't unless there's no feasible alternative
- With as little bias as possible, Hackmons PL should be considered – it includes the separated PH community, was decently competitive, and last year ran smoothly with 10 slots. IMO HPL was not too far from OMPL in terms of playing skill and overall activity. However, I rank it this low because non-Hackmons players would be effectively excluded (without them skillgapping on the fly).

- Custom OMFL is silly, every option mentioned above is a much better candidate
 
I like the idea of flex slots like pannu mentioned, although my idea would be something like AAA BH GG MnM STAB PIC flex A flex B and then maybe second flex on each side to make 10 slots. I think it could be an idea to be discussed to allow certain non perma tiers to be selected in these flex slots (inh, ph, etc.) obviously this has its problems but I like how this format takes the more standard and combining with other underrepresented communities. IMO we don’t want to be too similar to OMPL, but I think straying too far from the more “official” tiers can lead to more logistical issues (old gen oms can have problems over what gen to pick and active playerbase, only underrepresented oms can lead to lack of players; both can have out of date resources, note that I am not saying this is necessarily true for all cases, just some - potentially enough to cause numerous headaches). the mix of flex and standard I think is nice.

Oh and just like voicing my support for blind draft, I think it would be decent on its own but especially in tandem with the standard + flex. But if we do blind draft, please do not do the stupid thing where the price you pay gets decreased if other people paid way less
 
whatever we do, the tournament should not just be ompl with a worse draft format (blind draft, snake draft, etc). my preference would be for a tournament that props up some of the smaller om subcommunities, like spotlight.

ALTERNATIVELY a big aspect of other metagames that hasn't really ever been a part of our major tournaments is the exploration of completely undeveloped metagames, like building a team for day 1 of a fresh omotm. not sure how you'd make this work: a team tournament where the metagames are all undeveloped tiers like fishmons? randomly generated om mashups? uu metas?
 
In my opinion there is two option for the other team tour this year :
1) World cup : world cup have been there for a long time and wcop is also present in every format it's not about a normal team tour but a tradition to defend your own country every year, world cup would also give more opportunity to players if ( as pannu mentionned) europe disperce we can all agree that europe dominated the om scene since a while, they are always doing great run/winning. A dispersion of europe would be a great thing and make the tournament much more competitive, and there a ca would be deserved winner team.
2) Blind draft : as some other players, i experimented blind draft, actually this format is really fun for auctions and even playing, i'm taking chessking's opinion that some players would go in tiers they are not that familiar with and it would be more enjoyable, the format would be something like : AAA/BH/GG/MNM/STAB/PIC flex slot flex slot, and we can even add two more flex slot to make the tour bigger, blind draft is also chaotic in the auction but it make it harder to think for managers ( for me and only for me, i can understand other disagree on this point).


Snake draft : i never did this i don't like principle too, then it's more about retain tour you nom someone and it is yours if i understood well

Giving ca to omfl would be crazy and i don't support that. Because as greybaum and other mentionned they are good people ( dragonillis,osake,shing,evie,mamp) and more who are "too good" for that format who at the base is there to put spotlight on new omers. It would not be to fair to give ca to the team that get carried the whole tour by one person.
OMPL 2 is fine, i don't know what but maybe we could add something spicy like retains or more 10 slots

i'm not a player of spolight meta games so i will not tell i don't support it's not faire maybe it could be fun, idk if giving a ca is the great thing tho maybe it should be the replacement of x metagamePL
 
Hello,

I dont really have any ideas about tours or anything, I also dont agree that OMFL should carry CA either.

I am going to echo a message I posted on OM improvements https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/suggestions-for-om-improvement.3718725/post-10613276

The TLDR is whatever tour you come up with please try to make a slot for PH in it, it has a great playerbase and it is a good OM. They are ignored and dont have ways of getting CAs right now.
 
Chiming in with a couple of quick thoughts, mainly on OMWC since I captained and helped APAC for 2 years now.

Personally, despite the regional disparities leading to balancing issues with OMWC (oh boy I remember BH in 2023 NOT being fun to find people for) I still found the tour enjoyable imo and it has a clear-cut identity and difference in feeling compared to any OMPL 2 proposals which I think is important given I think it would be tiring and probably take a bit away from OMPL to just do a 2nd one with a random twist. I think it should be at least given a chance to see how it would do with a CA as it could potentially ease recruitment issues for regions and I don't think the balance of the tour is so awful as to make it unenjoyable or completely uncompetitive (WHY does an OMPL team have Ivar Sammy for 13.5k each and WHY did AAAPL 1 have Atha TNM).

Giving a CA to OMFL I think would be a very poor decision as not only would you have the CA tour running concurrently with the other one you would also be locking out a good majority of the community from playing for a CA which both feels like big downsides. Similarly I don't think givin a CA to any of HPL, PHPL or AAAPL would be a good idea. The CAs for the section should be used in tours that represent and be accessible to as much of the section and community as possible and limiting it behind a single meta sounds like a very poor idea to me personally. I've thought before about potentially merging AAAPL - HPL together and giving it the CA but even that still breaks this principle even if less egregiously.

I am not completely sure how a Spotlight League would work, if it would just be a tournament where only non-main OMs such as OMMs and rotational OMs are included then it suffers from a similar issue as above with how it can limit representation (though to a lesser degree than with OMFL or meta PLs as these metas are experimental compared to more cemented playerbases and metas of the main OMs) as well as the issue with dormant resources/councils (also how do tiers get selected for spotlight league considering there are many). Still I think it would be better than the above ideas excluding OMWC and the idea of representing and boosting less represented OMs is noble though I don't think without issue either.

Old-gen PL sounds pretty meh to me especially since these tiers aren't even being actively developed anymore so the CA focused on a tour of these sounds like a bit of a waste given PLs driving players to play these metas doesn't exactly help the section much at all.

As for OMPL with a twist variants, Snake Draft sounds awful and the most boring and imbalanced of them all and removes any of the fun nuance and hype of an auction while still being the same in practice to OMPL. Blind Draft is better though still I don't like it being still pretty identical to OMPL. The CL flex options that Pannu brought up were probably the most intriguing to me since it's more different to OMPL and could flex to spotlight tiers as a compromise but I still am somewhat confused on how the hell you draft and what tiers you can just decide to flex for.

TLDR my personal preference is: OMWC > Spotlight = OMCL >>> BD > Old-Gen > SD > OMPL2 > OMFL = HPL = PHPL
 
ALTERNATIVELY a big aspect of other metagames that hasn't really ever been a part of our major tournaments is the exploration of completely undeveloped metagames, like building a team for day 1 of a fresh omotm. not sure how you'd make this work: a team tournament where the metagames are all undeveloped tiers like fishmons? randomly generated om mashups? uu metas?

I've been pondering this idea of a tournament that tests players' capacity to figure out a fresh metagame and I've come up with a team tour format that I think could be really fun and unique.

I call it...

OTHER METAGAMES SCIENCE FAIR

Concept


This is a team tournament structured similarly to OMPL, but with one crucial difference: rather than teams competing in a static, predetermined set of metagames, the metagames change each week. At the beginning of the week, managers are sent a list of the metagames their team will be playing, and assign players to those tiers.

Here's an example to explain what I mean: we'll assume that there are only 3 slots for the sake of simplicity, but I imagine there'd be 6 or 8 if we ran this.

User ILOVEBURMY is managing the Beautiful Burmys, and they've drafted STABmonsFan84672065, AllRounderOMGuy, and Finchinator, plus some others. Before the beginning of the round, they're informed that for this round they'll be playing Fishmons, Monogen STABmons, and Inverse Shared Power. Based on the experience and skills of their team members (and by asking them what they're interested in playing), they put Finchinator in Fishmons, STABmonsFan84672065 in Monogen STABmons, and AllRounderOMGuy in Inverse Shared Power. The opposing team (the Burmy Crushers, managed by user IHATEBURMY) have also been told about those metas, and have fielded a lineup of their own. Over the course of the week, the teams will try to break down and figure out these unexplored metagames. Each other pair of competing teams will get a whole different set of metagames to play, and each week teams will play a new set of metagames again.

Metagames are pulled at random from a pre-prepared list of metas that nobody has played before, with no repeats. This list can include variants of existing metagames (mashups, UU/Ubers/LC tiers, old generations, banlist changes, etc.), micro metagames, OMs from previous generations that haven't been played in SV, and miscellaneous new OMs (perhaps metagames that wouldn't be accepted if they were submitted, but which nonetheless have enough depth and interest for 1 tournament game). I envision teams trying to draft a wide range of players so they can make sure they've got someone to slot into whatever comes up (you don't want to be caught without a BH player when you need to make a team for BH UU!), and players working together within their teams to test and theorycraft metagames that nobody has played before.

I think this would work best if there are fewer slots relative to the size of the teams; perhaps OMPL size teams (12-15 players generally) but with only 6 slots rather than 8. This would make decisions about which players to slot in more interesting, allow teams to focus more effort on each individual metagame, and to reduce burnout (figuring out a new metagame each week is a lot more taxing than building a team for a metagame you're already familiar with).


Considerations:

Won't we have to come up with a lot of metagames?

Yeah, but that's fine. With 6 teams, 6 slots playing a round robin we'd need 90 metagames, which isn't really as many as it sounds. I sat down and made a list of about 60 in around an hour, and through variants of existing metagames (think AAA UU, STABmons Ubers, NFE BH, Godly Gift Doubles, etc.) it's trivial to create enough unexplored metagames for this tournament. With 8 teams, 6 slots we need 168, which is also completely feasible.

What if a metagame is broken?

That's kinda the point; a skill we're trying to test here is how well players can figure out a fresh metagame, and figuring out if something is broken is part of that. And while an unbalanced metagame might be unfun in the long-term, in the context where it's only being played for a single tournament game it's far less of an issue. Unbalanced, overcentralised metagames can still result in interesting teambuilding and competitive, skill-testing matches.


Thanks for reading my pitch! I hope this idea is considered, and if we run something like this I would love to help out with organising it.
 

Hello, I have made a survey for everybody to fill out. This is a Ranked Choice voting survey, so please keep that in mind, and feel free to post if there is an option included that shouldn't be or vice versa. There might be a second stage of voting since having a final decider based on 7 potential tournament formats isn't everyone accurately being represented, so the next stage of voting will just be normal vote for one between the top 3? (idk just a number I'm throwing out there) options.

OM Science Fair is listed as an option in this ranked choice voting. If you're wondering why I included Science Fair: it's a fun idea, and I'd be willing to give it a shot, even if it doesn't win. For those confused on what that would entail, please check out MAMP's post explaining what it is.

For any confusion on what "Champion's League" is, read pannu's post.

Reminder that this is ranked choice voting, so please do not list the same choice multiple times, otherwise your submission will be deleted.
 
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Alright, voting has closed. Because this used a ranked choice voting system, I will list the amount of votes each option got every round. Massive thanks to Ticken for helping make a sheet for this.

Results & percentages for each round
Round 1
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
World Cup2530.12%
Champions League1922.89%
Old Gen Premier League1012.05%
Science Fair1012.05%
Spotlight League89.64%
Second OMPL44.82%
Snake Draft44.82%
Blind Draft33.61%
Total Votes83100%
Blind Draft has the lowest % of votes with 3.61%, so it is cut.

Round 2
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
World Cup2732.53%
Champions League1922.89%
Old Gen Premier League1012.05%
Science Fair1012.05%
Spotlight League89.64%
Snake Draft56.02%
Second OMPL44.82%
Total Votes83100%
Second OMPL has the lowest % of votes with 4.82%, so it is cut.

Round 3
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
World Cup2833.73%
Champions League2024.10%
Old Gen Premier League1012.05%
Science Fair1012.05%
Spotlight League89.64%
Snake Draft78.43%
Total Votes83100%
Snake Draft has the lowest % of votes with 8.43%, so it is cut.

Round 4
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
World Cup3238.55%
Champions League2226.51%
Science Fair1113.25%
Old Gen Premier League1012.05%
Spotlight League89.64%
Total Votes83100%
Spotlight League has the lowest % of votes with 9.64%, so it is cut.

Round 5
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
World Cup3542.17%
Champions League2530.12%
Science Fair1214.46%
Old Gen Premier League1113.25%
Total Votes83100%
Old Gen Premier League has the lowest % of votes with 13.25%, so it is cut.

Round 6
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
World Cup3845.783%
Champions League3036.145%
Science Fair1518.072%
Total Votes83100%
Science Fair has the lowest % of votes with 18.072%, so it is cut.

Round 7
Options (Sorted by %)Votes%
Champions League4351.81%
World Cup4048.19%
Total Votes83100%
World Cup has the lowest % of votes with 48.19%, so it is cut.

Borda Count (for those curious)

A borda count is the sum of each vote with their placement in the ranked choice depending their weight (first choice = 7, last choice = 0) and is used as a tiebreaker in the event of a tie for last place in a round. Thankfully we don't have any now, but there were a few while votes were still coming in.
  1. Champions League - 404
  2. World Cup - 372
  3. Old Gen Premier League - 315
  4. Science Fair - 302
  5. Blind Draft - 271
  6. Spotlight League - 257
  7. Second OMPL - 216
  8. Snake Draft - 215

So.... wtf do these numbers mean

As a result, OM Champions League (as described in this post by pannu) will be our replacement OM team tour for OMWC. Thank you all for participating in this discussion and vote, and a thread to discuss the specifics of OMCL I will come soon!
 
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