OU BW OU Tiering Discussion [ SURVEY POST 97 ]

  • Volc not broken on its own but rly annoying in the builder, life orb pushes it
  • Zam busted with orb, ppl sleep on orb ice too much that set has no counters
  • Thund lol? Not broken and provides important defensive utility on rain
  • Gems would love to know who the ""qualified"" users are that voted for a gems retest have you ppl lost ur mind lmfao
  • Numerous players (qualified and general) expressed frustration with a BW OU council member they believe to be inactive in the metagame. A couple of these responses were more general, going beyond just one member of the council, too - elodin and mdragon on council is a pisstake, they are not qualified, but its also not that deep just a old gen council so do what u want
  • Four responses indicated they found Latios to be problematic clueless
  • Three responses indicated they found Spikes to be problematic based
  • Three responses indicated they found...Life Orb...to be problematic - dont think lorb itself is broken but orb zam orb volc are def broken, dont know what to do ab it tho
  • Three responses indicate they support retesting Chlorophyll this is bait
  • Two responses indicated they found Excadrill to be problematic learn to build idk
  • Two responses indicated they found Keldeo to be problematic learn to build idk
  • One response indicated they support retesting...Lugia...while also indicating the "crybabies" caused the ban of Cloyster, which caused the metagame to lose its way hahahahaha whoever this is please come forward
  • Conkeldurr, Magic Guard, Magnet Pull/Magnezone, and Paralysis were all mentioned as potential bans not sure if mguard ban is 9000iq, rest of these are stupid
  • Sleep inducing moves, Sand Rush and Arena Trap/Dugtrio were all mentioned as potential unbans bw sleep is cancer, dugtrio would be abused way harder by modern builders than the at best mediocre builders of the past, this should never be freed, i dont feel any particular way ab sand rush, could be okay, could not be okay, i have no idea.
 
This might be an ignorant question, but out of curiosity, why is the BW OU metagame and playerbase so split? I understand it's an old generation, but I hear so many takes about this metagame from just about everyone, and no one agrees. Ban this, ban that, don't ban this, don't ban that. Being introduced to the tier is confusing as it is, trying to understand the real state of the metagame is even worse. Convoluted as it probably is to find, I think there could be a more scientific and methodical evaluation to the state of the metagame, but I wouldn't be able to assess it from this community at the surface. Help?
 
Smashburn said:
This might be an ignorant question, but out of curiosity, why is the BW OU metagame and playerbase so split? I understand it's an old generation, but I hear so many takes about this metagame from just about everyone, and no one agrees. Ban this, ban that, don't ban this, don't ban that. Being introduced to the tier is confusing as it is, trying to understand the real state of the metagame is even worse. Convoluted as it probably is to find, I think there could be a more scientific and methodical evaluation to the state of the metagame, but I wouldn't be able to assess it from this community at the surface. Help?
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Idt is that split as alot of people may think. But is just that doesnt feel like there isnt any urgency to ban anything atm. But doesnt mean the tier doesnt have issues from new meta developments. If anything as survey shows most ppl still enjoy bw as is even if it could be improved , if you wanna understand a tier theres no better place than playing games , interact with the community
 
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