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hello all, i hope you are well. now that i've wrapped my head around building teams without poison heal i'm enjoying balanced hackmons again. here's some guys i've used lately that i wanted to talk about
built around this for my first round in omfl after i watched 2 different ompl games where someone stayed in with regenvest celesteela to uturn on a miraidon. it's not the most consistent breaker and in particular needs a bit of support to get through ting-lu, but plot + magnet gives you the firepower to bust straight through a lot of ice scales guys (scales arc gets 2hkod at +2). i improofed with lightning rod flutter mane.
brought vs mok3s in farm league. i ran a lot of shit like this in gen 8. while i don't think it's as good in this meta bc defensive cores are so much more varied and salt cure/mortal spin are a nuisance for it, this can still come in on all kinds of passive guys over and over again and make a little bit of progress every single time. the joke here is that there is minimal overlap between chomp checks and hazard removers, so you can keep forcing in their fur coaters and steelas to spike up. offensive regen is mad underrated atm i feel
locket (Kyogre-Primal) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Salt Cure
- Steam Eruption
- Mortal Spin
- U-turn
brought this vs mok3s in farm league. i know i saw someone else talking about +speed regenvest ogre at some point but i can't remember who it was? but anyway everyone is running +atk/spa natures on their chickens and chomps and gardes and such, so timid can restrict their opportunities quite heavily. i would always run steam eruption > scald on this set, pp doesn't matter nearly as much as 2hkoing chomp. psychic noise > mortal spin could be cool to hit chicken harder and pester bulky structures
carrot juice (Gyarados-Mega) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Knock Off
- Flip Turn
- Salt Cure / Nuzzle
i chucked this on a team originally to imposter-proof some weird mewtwo set. this guy kinda sucks defensively and loses to every relevant breaker besides some versions of ash-gren, but he's got some cool qualities nonetheless. teams that aim to switch into regenvests with squishy magic guards and their own regenvests can get chipped down quickly by gyara's very strong knock off and flip turn, and he's also a decent rapid spinner. being weak to salt cure is useful against imposter also. if you want to get a bit freaky you can try running +speed to outpace ada chomp perhaps
brought this vs rofna in r1 of bh seasonal. designed as a lure for mg blobs but it has a ton of utility besides that. you're pretty much unwallable long-term, especially if you have reliable hazard setting and other forms of passive damage, like trick + black sludge or other mortal spinners. taunt + gastro gives you the tools to outplay anything if you're cool enough, even regen grounds; you can force them into a position where they have to either uturn and get gastrod, or risk hard switching to heal and having the switchin get caged. psychic noise > taunt is justifiable, helps a lot vs magic bounce and eternatus. we're gastro > worry seed despite the lesser pp because imposter won't copy the ability suppression, so after you gastro their regen/magic guard you can go to imposter and still have their ability.
hello all, i hope you are well. now that i've wrapped my head around building teams without poison heal i'm enjoying balanced hackmons again. here's some guys i've used lately that i wanted to talk about
built around this for my first round in omfl after i watched 2 different ompl games where someone stayed in with regenvest celesteela to uturn on a miraidon. it's not the most consistent breaker and in particular needs a bit of support to get through ting-lu, but plot + magnet gives you the firepower to bust straight through a lot of ice scales guys (scales arc gets 2hkod at +2). i improofed with lightning rod flutter mane.
brought vs mok3s in farm league. i ran a lot of shit like this in gen 8. while i don't think it's as good in this meta bc defensive cores are so much more varied and salt cure/mortal spin are a nuisance for it, this can still come in on all kinds of passive guys over and over again and make a little bit of progress every single time. the joke here is that there is minimal overlap between chomp checks and hazard removers, so you can keep forcing in their fur coaters and steelas to spike up. offensive regen is mad underrated atm i feel
locket (Kyogre-Primal) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Salt Cure
- Steam Eruption
- Mortal Spin
- U-turn
brought this vs mok3s in farm league. i know i saw someone else talking about +speed regenvest ogre at some point but i can't remember who it was? but anyway everyone is running +atk/spa natures on their chickens and chomps and gardes and such, so timid can restrict their opportunities quite heavily. i would always run steam eruption > scald on this set, pp doesn't matter nearly as much as 2hkoing chomp. psychic noise > mortal spin could be cool to hit chicken harder and pester bulky structures
carrot juice (Gyarados-Mega) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Knock Off
- Flip Turn
- Salt Cure / Nuzzle
i chucked this on a team originally to imposter-proof some weird mewtwo set. this guy kinda sucks defensively and loses to every relevant breaker besides some versions of ash-gren, but he's got some cool qualities nonetheless. teams that aim to switch into regenvests with squishy magic guards and their own regenvests can get chipped down quickly by gyara's very strong knock off and flip turn, and he's also a decent rapid spinner. being weak to salt cure is useful against imposter also. if you want to get a bit freaky you can try running +speed to outpace ada chomp perhaps
brought this vs rofna in r1 of bh seasonal. designed as a lure for mg blobs but it has a ton of utility besides that. you're pretty much unwallable long-term, especially if you have reliable hazard setting and other forms of passive damage, like trick + black sludge or other mortal spinners. taunt + gastro gives you the tools to outplay anything if you're cool enough, even regen grounds; you can force them into a position where they have to either uturn and get gastrod, or risk hard switching to heal and having the switchin get caged. psychic noise > taunt is justifiable, helps a lot vs magic bounce and eternatus. we're gastro > worry seed despite the lesser pp because imposter won't copy the ability suppression, so after you gastro their regen/magic guard you can go to imposter and still have their ability.
A versatile balance team aiming to stack hazards and punch holes with unconventional Giratina-O and Miraidon sets to facilitate a late-game Arceus-Fairy sweep. Keep up the offensive pressure with Miraidon, Giratina-O, and Arceus-Fairy, and comfortably play the long game against bulkier builds thanks to the two Regenerators and three spinners.
Weaknesses: Setup sweepers (particularly Victory Dance users and Arceus-Ghost), offensive Flutter Mane, Garchomp-Mega once they know the Miraidon set, Normalize + Entrainment
Effectiveness: Multiple wins in tournament games and pretty solid on ladder
Replays: OMFL vs ANinjaDude's webs offense: Giratina-O grabs a couple of KOs, then Miraidon lures in and removes a Soundproof Magearna to clear the way for Arceus-Fairy
Hello everyone, today I will start sharing sets and teams that I built during OMPL. Unlike most people, I will NOT be teamdumping. There are several reasons for this which includes:
1. I believe each team deserves their own post to show care and avoid sharing spotlights
2. I want to farm engagement, more likes and reacts
3. Super long posts need to be really good to retain attention, and I like posts to be short and sweet
This posts also doubles as a sample team submission and a test my hypothesis of my teams never making it to samples after the infamous Big Stall years ago.
White Tezcátlipoca (Kyurem-White) @ Never-Melt Ice
Ability: Refrigerate
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
IVs: 30 HP
- Fake Out
- Extreme Speed
- Boomburst
- V-create
Now you may be wondering why we're running Fake Out and Extreme Speed. It's simple really. These two moves are forms of speed control and free chip. For example, we can bring this Kyurem in on Nasty Plot/SD sweepers (which may be Speed Boost), certain Take Heart mons or Torch Song Dragons (eg ) and kill them. Fake Out/Espeed also gives us room to outplay and click Boomburst on fast mons. For example, you can bring Kyurem on a full HP Flutter Mane. Because Flutter Mane dies to FakeSpeed, you can predict their switch and click Boomburst instead. Think of FakeSpeed as a Boomburst "enabler". Boomburst is Kyurem's best move and what we want to click. Having FakeSpeed gives us more opportunities to click Boomburst, hence FakeSpeed is a viable option on Kyurem. I have provided some calcs below to show what mons FakeSpeed force out so you can predict and click Boomburst. Note that Espeed is just double the damage (40 vs 80). I also want to quickly mention that passive from Poison, Burn or even Leech Seed and Sand help the set because Fake Out gives you a free tick of damage. Just think about it, Fake Out on a Posioned mon deals an additional 12.5% of their HP which is a lot. The reason why I like +speed is because there are a lot of people who dare go neutral speed on mons like and to "do more damage". Well, I'll be posting a lot of sets with +speed to punish these greedy players. I swear I will instill fear that their breakers will be outsped and die before accomplishing a single thing because they dare go neutral speed. Finally,I think V-create is the natural coverage choice since this move is very strong and hits steels.
252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Flutter Mane: 102-121 (32.4 - 38.5%) -- 98.4% chance to 3HKO 252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Necrozma-Ultra: 146-174 (36.6 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus: 150-176 (30.9 - 36.3%) -- 56.5% chance to 3HKO 252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Koraidon: 132-156 (32.6 - 38.6%) -- 97.9% chance to 3HKO 252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Miraidon: 144-170 (35.6 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Alakazam-Mega: 93-111 (29.6 - 35.3%) -- 19.3% chance to 3HKO 252 SpA Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Celesteela: 193-228 (48.4 - 57.2%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO 252 SpA Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Ting-Lu: 446-528 (86.7 - 102.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
Now, obviously there are certain weaknesses to the set which necessitates support from your other mons. Firstly, I think or is the best item on the set because we are running three Ice-type moves. This means that your team has to have strong hazard removal. Secondly, this set doesn't really beat TH Arceus which is the most common setup sweeper. This is a bit uncommon but Covert Cloak stops flinches (thanks VGC) though to be honest, most of the mons you want to Fake Out are offensive and so are unlikely to have it. It does matter on walls since you'll lose free chip damage but you probably want to click Boomburst.
The next set is Wandering Spirit Dialga. If you know me you know I love this mon a lot. I played gen 4 many times and I think Dialga has a cool design, vibe and stats. I'm gonna keep this brief since I've posted and talked about this set before. Basically you bring this in to Regens using a contact move (e.g Knock Off, U-turn, Rapid Spin, Nuzzle, Dragon Tail). Wandering Spirit will automatically swap abilities with that Regen, giving you Regen and giving them a useless ability. Just be mindful not to have the same thing happen to your Regen though, for example if you switch Dialga out into a mon with a contact move. The main difference here is the move choice and nature. Once again we're running +speed to punish those greedy players. They think they can bring in their or in? They better think again because you will outspeed and attack them first (calcs provided below). Revelation Dance and Dragon Energy are strong STABs that will chunk most mons. Thunder Cage is one of the best moves on Wandering Spirit because it traps in regen and forces them to U-turn or Spin, both of which are contact moves and trigger our ability. To be honest, Strength Sap is optional. Jungle Healing makes Nuzzle Para less of an issue and Recover is solid. Depending on the matchup you can actually rely completely on Wandering Spirit and playing well for recovery, maybe with Wish support to have some room for error. This set is also self-proof in most circumstances. If they come in on Thunder Cage, you can win with Dragon Energy and speed ties. Draco Meteor is an option to always beat Imposter. Just remember that it's not self-proof if you replace Strength Sap though.
252 SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Garchomp-Mega: 534-630 (127.1 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Revelation Dance vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gardevoir-Mega: 254-300 (74.7 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Blaziken-Mega: 297-351 (81.5 - 96.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Ting-Lu: 181-214 (35.2 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 SpA Dialga-Origin Thunder Cage vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Celesteela: 94-112 (23.6 - 28.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after trapping damage 252 SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Giratina-Origin: 516-608 (102.3 - 120.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
First Sun Xibalbá (Blissey) (F) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Clear Smog / Dragon Tail / Circle Throw
- U-turn
- Stone Axe
- Rapid Spin
This is another set I've posted before. RegenVest Blissey's primary purpose is to punish Take Heart mons (usually Arceus) without Secret Sword. This mon has insane special bulk and will wall most even if they're boosted. The moves are prtty self-explanatory, just your typical utility moves. Ruination is an option if you need damage. Although not a factor in the team I will post, Blissey has another reason why it's good with Physical wallbreakers. The reason if Imposter comes in on it and you U-turn, you can bring in your for free and OHKO it even from full.
252 SpA Arceus-Ground Revelation Dance vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 55-66 (7.7 - 9.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever 252 SpA Life Orb Eternatus Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 134-160 (18.7 - 22.4%) -- possible 5HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Necrozma-Ultra Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 149-177 (20.8 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO 252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile-Mega Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 134-160 (18.7 - 22.4%) -- possible 5HKO
Regen Blissey's biggest weakness is chip. Unlike other Regens which like , Blissey shares the same issue with Kyogre where they both take full damage from rocks and poison. This is why I would normally pair Blissey with a chip resistant secondary regen (e.g the aforementioned mons and ) or a Magic Guard mon. However, if you do end up loading into a TH Sap Arceus or non Secret Sword special breakers, this mon will perform exceptionally well.
Strengths and Weaknesses: You should use this team if you want to punish TH Sap Arceus and special breakers without Secret Sword. Also fantastic if you expect at least a Regen and Imposter. This team will out-sustain fat teams because it will effectively have 4 regen mons () Max Speed Kyogre lets it surprise Knock Off common medium-speed breakers and alleviate pressure. Good against spammers because Kyurem destroys that core. Bring vs TTTech and QT because they basically autolose to Kyurem + Blissey.
Do not bring if you expect Secret Sword, Hazard stack or Sniper Greninja. This team's physical walls aren't that great. It's only a single Fur Coat and the other mons don't offer useful physical bulk or typing so if you expect 2+ physical breakers then do not bring. Because of Dialga, our regens can't run Nuzzle or Salt Cure which makes it vulnerable to some TH sets.
The Vision (how to pilot properly): Ideally you lead a Regen and Knock/Mortal/Stone Axe as soon as possible. When they go to Imposter, hard switch to Dialga and force a defensive response. Keep your field clear for Kyurem and Regens. Keeping your side clear from hazards is more important than keeping rocks on your opponent's side, so prioritise clearing over setting hazards. You will out-sustain better assuming you load into a reasonable matchup. Bring in Kyurem on opposing fast frail breakers and reveal Fake Out + Espeed. After your opponent has knowledge of these two moves, you are able to outplay and Boomburst the next time. Do not disappoint me. Click Boomburst on that Necrozma, Sceptile or whatever. I will judge you if you don't. Kyurem, Dialga, Arceus and Imposter are all viable win cons depending on the match up, conditions and momentum. I'm not gonna get into explaining since that's hard to do but here is what I usually advise:
At the start of every turn (frequency lowers the better player you are), ask yourself "How difficult is it to win with X?" where X is one of the aforementioned win conditions. Then ask "What is stopping me from winning with X?", followed by "How can I make progress so I can win with X". Repeat for every win condition and hopefully you will be able to identify the path to victory.
As an additional advice, ask yourself "How can my opponent win?", then "How do I not lose to their win condition X", and finally and most difficult is "How do I progress towards winning while stopping my opponent from winning".
And that concludes this post, I hope you learnt something. If I were to sum up this post, I'll say
1. Punish those greedy BH players who dare go neutral speed on breakers.
2. Try out my sets, they'll add some spice to teambuilding.
3. Check out my team if you're bored of the current meta.
Alright people, I'm back with another banger post.
Have you ever sat down to build a BH team and thought to yourself "man there are so many threats to cover in the tier, how can my FurScalesRegen cover everything if I wanna run Imposter and two extra mons that win the game?" Well I have the revolutionary way of building that is sure to tickle your fancy. What if instead of only running one or two big nukes and a bunch of filler, we run six offensive mons, BUT they are fat so they can take a hit or two. In my opinion, this type of teams are more lenient because if unlike the "solo carry" teams that people are running, you're not screwed if your offensive mon dies, because all your mons can attack and win. Basically against teams with only one or two offensive mons, we can just sac a mon to chunk their nuke and put it into OHKO range. Then, we simply use another mon to kill it. Similar idea with two nukes. Your opponent losing 1/1 or 1/2 offensive mons is more significant than you losing 1/6 or 2/6 offensive mons. If you're wondering if this is an HO mentality, it's not because the whole team is fat and is designed to win vs the 5 non-nuke mons.
The Vision™
We bring unga bunga 6 "offensive" mons with big BST that can tank.
Go +speed nature to outspeed neutral 100s and below.
Just attack their nuke when it's in so it's in OHKO range. Sacking a mon to do this is fine because every mon is offensive.
Opponent losing 1/1 or 1/2 offensive threats (100% and 50% respectively) is worse than us losing 1/5 or 1/6 (20% and 17%) "offensive mons".
We bring a Bouncer Improof + 2 MG Sappers because they can sustain, wall and break.
Put as many physical mons as possible so opponent can't rely on RegenVests to come in as easily, or have offensive moves on both spectrums (thanks High BST). Difference is RegenVests never click recovery while FC/Scales need to click them.
Run a bunch of typings that provide immunities (Flying, Ground, Fairy, Steel, Dark, Ghost) so you can discourage opponent clicking their best moves (more on the FC Zac section)
Team has a lot of aura because all mons are menacing (very important)
HERO-KING MARTH (Tyranitar-Mega) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Axe
- Knock Off
- Shift Gear
- Jungle Healing
This post will feature some of my favourite mons. My preferred type of mons are slow high-bst gigachads and I think it fits perfectly with the vision of this archetype. Tyranitar has a great 164 base attack and STAB on two of the top 2 best utility moves in BH: Knock Off and Stone Axe. There is no counter to these moves. Even if they do 0 damage (it won't), it's still guaranteed progress against enemy FCs. Don't be deceived by the bad typing. I believe that it's powerful Knock and Stone Axe is so good that you can patch up its weaknesses with a defensive ability. If you need an "unwallable" progress maker, this is the mon for you. I'll list some abilities that will provide opportunities for Tyranitar to enter the scene.
Magic Bounce / GaG Comes in on status moves.
Magic Guard Comes in on passive damage moves and gives access to recoil-less LO Head Smash which does a million damage. Soundproof - Walls and comes in on Torch Song and Parting Shot for free. Levitate - Soft checks (come in on ground move, V-create and Bolt Strike), Spike immunity, can beat with certain moves Sap Sipper - Sap Blocks and walls some MG mons that use Chloroblast. Sand Stream / Ice Scales - Smooth Rock Sand Stream is 48% chip over 8 turns which is a lot. I'd use it on stall as a solo progress maker. Ice Scales lets Tyranitar tank Secret Sword though you shouldn't use this mon if you expect that move. Misty Surge - Walls non-Secret Sword like a champ. Misty Surge makes it so grounded pokemon can't get statused which is very nice. Also halves Dragon-type damage which is low key insane if your opponent's breaker uses a Dragon move. Desolate Land :tyranityar-mega: walls Sniper though it's rare atm and trolls Flip Turn if your opponent runs that for some reason. Also walls GaG pogre. Obviously we run V-create to do a million damage as well. Tera Shell - This is a Disneyland ability (your head must be in Disneyland to pull this off) but I think this is a very spicy ability that lets Tyrantar Knock Off against ANY mon. on the field? I don't care. Do you care? Tera Shell certainly doesn't care. Tera Shell will let Tyranitar come in and Knock them.
I hope this section increases Tyranitar stonks because this is a very cool-looking mon and it's a shame nobody wants to use it.
Here are some big damage calcs to show that this mon is no joke (especially if you click Shift Gear).
+1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Gardevoir-Mega: 321-378 (94.4 - 111.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO +1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus: 255-300 (52.6 - 61.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Arceus-Ghost: 290-344 (65.3 - 77.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Flutter Mane: 351-414 (111.7 - 131.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Sceptile-Mega: 295-348 (85.7 - 101.1%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO +1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Axe vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Yveltal: 338-402 (74.1 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Registeel: 123-145 (33.7 - 39.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252 Def Celesteela: 160-190 (40.3 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Dialga-Origin: 144-171 (35.6 - 42.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Extra calcs for Shift Gear MG / DesoLand for damage to show damage that makes you go +1 252+ Atk Life Orb Tyranitar-Mega Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Fur Coat Arceus-Fairy: 218-257 (49 - 57.8%) -- 57.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery +1 252+ Atk Life Orb Tyranitar-Mega Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus: 508-601 (104.9 - 124.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Life Orb Tyranitar-Mega Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blaziken-Mega: 380-448 (104.3 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega V-create vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Fur Coat Arceus-Fairy in Harsh Sunshine: 201-237 (45.2 - 53.3%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega V-create vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Registeel in Harsh Sunshine: 454-536 (124.7 - 147.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega V-create vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Ting-Lu in Harsh Sunshine: 260-307 (50.5 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
So you might be wondering why you would run a RegenVest that doesn't really wall special attackers. The answer is because of speed and damage. This koraidon isn't supposed to wall, it's supposed to come in and force threats out rather than slow pivot. For example, you can bring this is on or on resisted moves and threaten them with strong stabs. Likewise, + Dragon Darts actually lets you stay in on Dragon Energy mons like because after you Dragon Darts them their Dragon Energy won't do much back. In the context of my team later, this mon also improofs Tyranitar.
I just have to shout out FC Zacian. A certain other FC dog is very popular right now but I am here to shatter the illusion and bring you back to reality. FC Zamazenta is a fraud. This mon is donating wins to meta slaves running . Every time you bring this bozo in on a physical breaker, know that you are basically putting down a red carpet for these two mons to come in to Sap Block and force you out. I also have to mention you resists nothing relevant except for Dark and nobody's using right now. Unlike Zamazenta, Zacian has a beautiful Fairy typing. Wanna know what's better than taking 60% from Garchomp Glaive Rush? Taking 0 fucking percent because you have a real defensive typing.
I can already hear you say "b-b-but Sunsteel Strike and Gigaton Hammer murders Zacian, what if they click it? Don't I just lose on the spot?"
Let me teach you a lesson on psychology. EVERY PHYSICAL BREAKER WANTS TO CLICK THEIR STAB ON FC ZAMAZENTA. :gachomp: WANTS to click Glaive/Headlong on Zama. WANTS to click V-create/CC on Zama. Physical WANTS to click Glaive on Zama. This means that FC Zama offers no "friction" to your opponent in clicking their best moves. On the other hand, having a Fairy type SIGNIFICANTLY deters your opponent from clicking a Dragon move. If their band mon lock into Glaive Rush on a Fairy type, you're in a fantastic spot. Just compare that to if they lock into Glaive Rush on your FC Zama. Do they care? No, because your fraud just took half and is forced to recover. Another example is or a PSea mon. Just the existence of these mons discourage from clicking V-create. Do you care if the band chicken clicks CC? Certainly not as much as if they click V-create under sun. This is why I suggest running a bunch of types that give immunity, or even abilities though I won't get into that in this post.
This is also why I think stuff like FC is fine as long as you have a Fairy-type, or a fire-weak FC with a Psea mon. Your opponent wants to click Glaive Rush to kill your FCs but you can predict that and go to your Fairy type. Note that this does require skill because if you play wrong you will get cooked but that's not my problem. Why are you getting outplayed? Are you bad?
"I am better. My opponent's feeble mind is no match for my superior move-clicking abilities. They will dance like a puppet on my strings. My opponent is not strong. Their achievements, their career, their records are but ashes fated to scatter before the lightest summer breeze. They have simply been blessed not to have been matched with a truly strong opponent such as myself."
It is only after you embrace this mentality that you too can call yourself a true XxFINAL DESTINATIONxX expert.
Anyways Spirit Break is a solid move that always drops special attack. Topsy is a good anti-setup move but I want to mention that Haze is actually good vs Strength Sap because you reset your attack drops. This means that if you poison/burn Zama, you can actually trap and 1v1 because you can reset your Attack and Defense drops from their Strength Sap and Triple Arrows.
What some people don't realise is that big BST grants you certain privileges. To the untrained eye, you may think that Ultra Necrozma is an innocuous offensive mon with its impressive dual-spectrum offensive stats, speed and mediocre bulk. Well guess what, Attack and Speed contributes to a mon's defensive profile, just ask the longest-reigning big boss of OU . Believe it or not, Necrozma's typing walls . Although it's weak to dragon, it can outspeed and attack physical dragons first since they are usually slow. Always remember, your mon can't die to an attack if your opponent dies first.
I hope by now you understand The Vision™. I have three extremely powerful teams to share, one of which has actually been tested by yours truly (an occurrence few and far between, you may thank OMPL for this instance).
Team name:HERO-KING MARTH'S XxFINAL DESTINATION
Pokepaste Link:https://pokepast.es/485205794aebdf09 Overview:
This is a Hyper Balance featuring Magic Bounce Tyranitar
Strengths and Weaknesses: Very easy to pilot as long as you predict well. This team has exactly one pivot and it has 135 speed so forget about the traditional "slow pivot into nuke" gameplay. Simply click the strongest move available, every turn. Sac mons as needed to get chip but keep in mind the Improofing methods. This means to keep TTar alive and Koraidon if enemy Imposter is still healthy and not statused. This team's primary method to beat setup is to attack them but we do have some setup control. I do think it's on the weaker side so be sure to scout properly and avoid some setup sweepers like Water Arceus that may just wall everybody and win.
But that's not all. I have 2 more teams that follow this philosophy which is sure to bring you victory and definitely not lose to some common set that I don't want to think about.
In games I’ve played so far the team has done wonderfully, it is just a basic balance featuring double fc (yvel and etern), scales flutter, shield dust steelceus, desoland Blaze and imposter.
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Since I've been eliminated from the BH Seasonal, I might as well post some of the teams I've built for the tournament. Do keep in mind to use these at your own risk as most of them are probably not suitable for tournament play by virtue of being monotype. (Yes, I attempted to play in the BH seasonal with only monotype teams, and that went about as well as one would expect). Not that the result would've been any better with actual teams, given my horrible tournament track record. Also, why are folks still drafting me for team tournaments? The poor winrate hasn't improved from previous tournament runs.
Mono-Water Rain team that I ended up bringing vs Damflame, as I noticed their lack of reliable Water resists on a lot of their structures. This would've worked had I played the team correctly. Unfortunately, I somehow forgot Take Heart Kyogre is a thing ( Despite it being the most common set it uses) and completely threw an otherwise completely unlosable game in typical Onyx fashion.
Mono-Fire Sun team I created with the intent of exploiting structures lacking a Fur Coat Arcueus Water, as Zamazenta and other Fur Coat Arceus Teams get completely owned by this type of team. However, every time I ran this, I always ran into Fur Coat Arceus Water or Covert Cloak Imposter. Go figure. Anyhow, if you don't have horrendous luck and keep running into the team's few counters, it tends to work decently well.
This is probably the only reliable Monotype aside from Ghost. This team is a genuinely solid stall team that excels at exploiting structures that rely on Mortal Spin and Rapid Spin to remove hazards. It also makes the little timmy teams that everyone for some reason still uses that have Mega Blaziken or Mega Gardevior as the player's sole progress maker instantly lose the game.
I attempted to make a mono-grass team and then immediately shelved it as it immediately folds to Mega Garchomp and Blaziken. In other words, it would win against a grand total of zero competent players in the Bh Seasonal. Still fun though.
Mono-Dragon team I made at some point. Didn't like it and never got around to building a new Mono-Dragon Team. But it exists if your desire is to lose horribly to any competent team.
An intriguing mono-bug team I made using the duo of Mega-Heracross and Pinsir. Unfortunately, while this team looks good on paper, it is horribly slow and instaloses to Arceus Water. And if you are going to instalose to Arceus Water, might as well spam the big red button and instawin in its absence instead.
Yet another defensive structure, but instead of using something defensively sound like Poison or Steel, you are using Rock. Not good enough for tournament usage and so was never used.
Pretty solid team, nabbed a few wins vs Akira and some other good players in testing. Unfortunately never found a suitable opponent in the BH Seasonal to use this against. Had my run not been cut short by bad RNG and play vs Damflame and rolling one of the worst opponents for challenges like this: TTTech, definitely would've been used at some point in the tour.
Anyhow, that is my roster of BH monotype teams for anyone who wants to torture themselves in tours and on the ladder. Maybe they will fill the roster of BH monotype sample teams if that ever becomes a thing.
First team I built. I talked a bit about this Miraidon set in an earlier post; bulkier Miraidons have become so standard that SpDef electric resists have fallen off and many players are not respecting the possibility of strong electric moves from it, so will do things like leave in RegenVest Celesteela to U-turn. The defensive structure of this team is pretty rough (very dubious Take Heart Arceus/offensive Eternatus counterplay) but it's got enough random fast guys and breaking potential that you have outs in most matchups.
The match itself was mostly straightforward: my opponent had sketchy hazard control, so once Spikes were up their otherwise problematic Garchomp + sapblocker combo didn't get much opportunity to make progress. Lightning Rod Flutter Mane neatly handled their Miraidon, and once things were chipped down Ho-oh took care of the rest.
Built this team super last minute, and while there's some cool sets on it I think the structure overall is quite bad. Quite weak to a number of common threats, particularly Garchomp, Gardevoir, Miraidon, and Eternatus, and no real counterplay to a lot of Take Heart Arceus sets. Almost all of my losses when laddering for the Blaziken suspect were while using this team.
Ghostceus had a fantastic matchup in this game and should have basically won from preview, but once it got crit things became a lot trickier. However, through paralysis all things are possible, and once mok3s sacked the Steelceus, Eternatus had an easy path to victory. This game really shows the importance of running +speed in the 90-100 speed tiers; I don't know if I could have won this if my Kyogre and Garchomp didn't both outspeed the Gardevoir.
I submitted this team as a sample, so I've talked about it a bit in this post. Initial concept was Spikes stacking with FC Dialga-O to block Mortal Spin, and MG Giratina-O to block Rapid Spin.
Played very silly around the Ghostceus at the beginning, which I could and perhaps should have lost for. The mid-game was a good showcase of why I feel Tina-O is underrated — it's got more bulk than Arceus and 2 very strong STABs with the capacity to go mixed, so it can be quite challenging for many teams to take on defensively and wins the 1v1 against a lot of offensive threats, especially if you're +speed or running options like Nuzzle. I generally don't fuck with Infernal Parade sets, Tina-O is too slow and awkward to position to rely on that sort of thing, it takes too much setup for it to actually threaten anything like that. Astral Barrage OHKOs Flutter Mane and you survive any hit from even Life Orb sets! Anyway, the endgame was very straightforward; Miraidon lured in and took out Soundproof Magearna, leaving no counterplay to Fairyceus clicking Boomburst.
A bit of a more experimental team this time; Spirit Shackle + Magic Bounce + Eerie Impulse to lure in and beat Take Heart Arceus, particularly FC sets, is an idea I'd had for a while. I'm not sure that Ho-oh is the best option for it (weak to Thunder Cage, rocks weak), but it works out alright. CB Greninja is underrated currently, he does so much in so many matchups and really only needs a tiny bit of chip on his checks to be unwallable. FC Salamence is kinda like a worse version of FC Eternatus most of the time, but it's got a couple of unique features: the main one is the ground immunity, which can force CB Garchomp to think a bit before clicking Headlong Rush, and it doesn't lose to Headlong Rush Shift Gear Blaziken. It also has a good attack stat, so you can run silly sets like the V-create + Mortal Spin set I'm on here. This is solid support for Fairyceus, as people will often bring in Regenvest Celesteela on an unrevealed Salamence, which dies to V-create with minimal chip (very balanced move). Fairyceus is certainly not the best Heal Bell user in the game, but that move is quite strong currently and I think people should use it more often. On this team it's there mainly to alleviate the Zamazenta weakness, and make it easier to click buttons with Greninja without fearing Burning Bulwark.
I had an excellent matchup against the stall that my opponent brought to this game, but I feel I could have lost the long game to hazards if they'd prioritised pressuring Fairyceus with Celesteela. Thankfully, they allowed all of their Wicked Blow switchins to take chip, so Greninja cleaned up.
This was the only matchup where I did any scouting. I saw Rei had brought a lot of teams with mons like FC Zamazenta, Celesteela, and Flutter Mane, so I loaded up an old Aerodactyl team that I suspected would have a good matchup. This team is quite one-note and Aerodactyl is a really awesome mon that suffers a little from the climate of fear around Blaziken that has gripped the meta of late. Regardless, most of its defensive checks are quite susceptible to Spikes or reliant on Strength Sap to recover, so you've got tools to wear them down into range of Head Smash in most matchups. Magic Bounce + Knock Off Take Heart Fairyceus is a good sapblocker and also consistently beats a large majority of other Take Heart Arceus' in the 1v1.
In game, scouting with Imposter allowed me to quickly identify that my opponent likely couldn't remove hazards against my 2 steel types, so I had no qualms about sacrificing a defensively useless Slowbro to get up rocks early. From there the match was quite straightforward; with full layers up their Fairyceus checks were poor, so I was able to take out the FC Waterceus that was their only real Aerodactyl switchin, then got enough chip on Imposter that it would die to hazards. The crit on my Fairyceus didn't matter particularly, but was annoying because with just a bit more damage on Imposter I could've gone to Aerodactyl after Fairyceus went down and just clicked Brave Bird/Flare Blitz 5 times to win. As it was, I had to piss around with Chansey a bit to PP stall Moonblast (after this game I immediately changed Chansey to Spirit Shackle + Haze rather than Block + Topsy-Turvy). I could've Brave Birded Swampert with Aerodactyl the first time on turn 41 and almost certainly would've won; it was a 50/50 roll to KO, and even if it hadn't, Flip Turn into Gardevoir's Espeed doesn't KO Aerodactyl, as we'll see later. My fear was that they could survive and then either crit Flip Turn or Espeed, or they could Knock Off my Life Orb, which would mean Aerodactyl would need to hit Head Smash and get a good roll to KO HDB or Magic Guard Flutter Mane, at which point I could've lost to some weird set. We faff around a bit sacrificing mons back and forth until Aerodactyl is in an unstoppable position; even with crits, Impostered Gardevoir would've brought it home. I'm not entirely sure if my line here was correct but at the time it felt like it had the best probability.
Paralysis + Taunt is a cute tech against Take Heart Arceus, but both moves are super useful in a whole range of matchups (at least as long as nobody's running Magic Bounce). Run Zap Cannon > Glare if you don't want to get sat on by Celesteela.
Mewtwo @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic Noise
- Take Heart
- Strength Sap
- Magma Storm
Very fishy and you will lose every time to Magma Storm accuracy, but some teams don't actually have any counterplay to this. Beats most Take Heart Arceus 1v1, benefits enormously from Spikes and Knock Off support.
Hi everyone, this is my first time posting here although I've been a lurker in BH for a very long time. I've just been generally shy and not super active in the public space.. I know its not uncommon and possibly even frowned upon for a newcomer to post about the metagame without involving theirself in the community for at least some time, but I want to bring my opinion up on something, and while I expect a fair amount of disagreement, I would at least like my post to be taken somewhat seriously.
With the closing suspect test being a factor into my thoughts on the meta, I feel like Balanced Hackmons has a lot of something called "matchup fishing". I simultaneously feel like there's a lot of strain for newcomers to build teams as a result of this. I want to give my opinion on a bunch of sets I've seen that I feel quantify as such, however I do not advocate for banning all of these.
Matchup Fishing in BH
Just so I don't immediately come off as inexperienced or biased, some matchup fishing is fine, and not everything that's a favorable matchup against you is inherently a matchup fish, per se. One famous example I've seen people complain about in my games a lot, but do not support a ban for...
Normalize is the most famous matchup fish, being something that's been around for several generations now as Entrainment and Normalize have been in the games since Generation 5. Normalize is the most simple matchup fish there is. Either you have a Revelation Dance/Judgment user or a Magic Bounce/Good as Gold Pokemon, or you lose. While Normal-types are immune to Spooky Judgment, I've seen sets that specifically counter these by running Thunder Cage/Infestation and Taunt.
While ladder seems to like Dragapult more, researching the topic, it seems that Flutter Mane is preferred amongst top players. It's possible to force these users out with a fast pokemon like Mega Alakazam, but it cannot switch in freely. My experience is that priority tends to be a mixed bag as -ate users prefer hitting harder over priority, especially priority that rarely OHKOes these mons, even if the Normalize users don't usually pack recovery moves.
In any event, Normalize puts a mild strain on teambuilding as if you don't account for it, you will lose on team preview. No one at the high level supports a ban for this, and I think it has enough checks that it isn't problematic, but I listed it here as an example.
For some more relevant matchup fishes that may require attention...
One thing I've noticed when looking into this topic is that BH amongst other metas have something called primacy bias, where stuff that has existed yet was legal in former metas is much more tolerated and pro-Do Not Ban than something more recent. Mega Blaziken is legal in both XY Balanced Hackmons and Sun and Moon Balanced Hackmons, but I don't feel qualified to comment on those in depth. V-create however has been legal for longer than that, and during Sword and Shield BH.
There's a thought experiment I've had, where I think about how if V-create was introduced this Generation alongside Rage Fist and Last Respects, two other extremely high BP and otherwise low risk moves, that all three would have been banned without a second thought. I read what cityscapes had to say in the suspect thread regarding moves not being an inherent property of a pokemon, and I agree with her overall take on the matter that V-create has valid reason for a ban.
Mega Blaziken is really a simple Pokemon whose entire deal is finding a way to break a team apart systematically and uses its set variance for that purpose. There is a fair argument that V-create is what enables it to be as offensive as it is. But with 160/130 offenses, Mega Blaziken is a pokemon that rewards running a dozen different movesets including band Desolate Land, setup Desolate Land, mixed Speed Boost on Sun (+2 V-create in sun ohkoes non-FC Eternatus), mixed Tough Claws, Mold Breaker, and there are even arguments that Tinted Lens, Tough Claws Scarf, and Simple Shift Gear/Dragon Dance is able to work.
I wasn't able to get reqs in the recent suspect, but I thoroughly believe a pokemon whose entire focal point is "V-create with coverage to nuke checks" is a matchup fish that requires a Fire-resist, except Mega Blaziken can freely spec its moveset to adapt to any would-be check, meaning playing against the pokemon boils down to a rock-paper-scissors match.
You probably read the above and questioned why I didn't mention weather. If you point out that Sun and Rain are matchup fishes, congratulations: you're correct. In a sense, I don't actually think that Rain is that offensive right now, as the abundance of Dragon and Water-types right now does mitigate the damage they can do. But on the other hand, weathers are very meta dependent and both weathers can be dominant over one or another at any given time.
This ties in to my V-create point but I obviously think that Sun is busted with that context in mind, and Growth in Sun basically mandates Imposter or a Primordial Sea user to reliably check short term. Being able to get +2 Attack and Special Attack will often instantly win games if on the likes of Speed Boost Blaziken or almost any Ultra Necrozma set.
Do I think weather should be actioned upon? Well, no, I don't. I think the problem is mainly Blaziken or V-create, and to be fair, a 180 BP move that gets a 1.5x boost in Sun is ridiculous! Even with immunity abilities readily available.
Mega Garchomp suffers from most of the same issues as Mega Blaziken, but is slightly more predictable and unlike Blaziken, it disincentivizes Imposter from switching in. Mega Garchomp separates itself from the likes of Black Kyurem and other similarly high Attack Pokemon because its STAB combo is nearly unresisted, and the few pokemon that can resist both of its STABs like Celesteela lack the bulk to take it on especially if it has Bolt Strike in its moveset.
Mega Garchomp isn't much different from Mega Blaziken in practice in that its main STABs will easily grind down any FCs. Other than Fur Coat, Levitate has been used as a check but in my opinion, Levitate is a pretty crappy check as V-create isn't uncommon and nukes any Steel-types that would use it. For all intents and purposes, Levitate is only for dealing with imposter. This might be another point to banning V-create, although I highly doubt it would matter in this exact case as a OHKO would turn into a 2HKO at best.
It has slightly lower Special Attack than Mega Blaziken, but still usable enough to chunk Electric-weak walls with Electro Drift and is more than capable of adapting its moveset to include special attacks as necessary. It has all the same ability to change its moveset to deal with virtually any counter imaginable and it coming in will usually guarantee a KO, especially if its a setup variant that gets a single turn of setup. It fishes matchups in all the same way as Mega Blaziken even though it is more prediction reliant.
Toxic Spikes, or more precisely Toxic Debris (what I say applies to both equally) has gotten more popular in recent times with a specific team that was passed around. Toxic Spikes is one of the more egregious examples of matchup fishing because this is a meta that strongly incentivizes running Covert Cloak, and spinblocking is very easy. The problem with Toxic Spikes is two-fold. Poison-types except for Eternatus are niche and largely stink. I have seen Fezandipiti and Clodsire but they are very niche pokemon and shouldn't be run for the sole purpose of worrying about Toxic Spikes. Eternatus has its own problems: Its one of the most common setup sweepers and can very easily be bullied out by the tspiker in question (Dragon STAB for Toxic Debris Dialga; outspeeding with Pain Split and Moonblast while healing very low with Strength Sap for Toxic Spikes Flutter Mane) while Red Card has been used to force switches for an immediate effect with Toxic Spikes.
Toxic Spikes as an entry hazard boils down to one of three things:
My opponent instantly loses as their core is susceptible to Toxic Spikes and being poisoned or even badly poisoned puts them on a timer which even more strongly punishes sapblocking.
My opponent is able to Tidy Up, Pixilate Spin, or Defog, but they can't bring in their win cons and I end up being at an advantage while my opponent is forced into a static gameplan as a result.
Most Toxic Spikes teams aren't built around the hazard entirely, so I will either face an Eternatus or some Magic Bounce user that hard counters my Toxic Spikes user and I end up resorting to a backup gameplan. I'm at a mild disadvantage but otherwise nowhere near as bad as the above two cases. Notably, Toxic Debris has less of this problem as Magic Bounce isn't relevant and Red Card can brute force poison.
I also want to say I think Tidy Up only works on very offensive teams due to its low PP, and Defog is just a bad move period as it will always be out-PPed by a competent player, not to mention Good as Gold blocking it. Pixilate/Aerilate Rapid Spin is the only long term check to Toxic Spikes and is reliant on Heavy Duty Boots to not instantly lose. While Toxic Spikes has a few checks, it does end up bruteforcing teams more often than not and people don't like having to run Eternatus or boots -ate Spin on every team.
I've gone on long enough, but I figure I'll mention a few other things before I close this post off. I don't necessary call action on these, I merely want to mention them to make a point.
Unburden is a pretty darn obvious matchup fish to mention, with Necrozma-DW being one such pokemon. Necrozma-DW is seen more as cheese, but with Taunt it can brute force a fair number of Ice Scales users and is completely unconcerned with Imposter. Marshadow and other Poltergeist users are commonly used with Unburden. Another common Unburden user is Mega Lucario, who can run Secret Sword and Tachyon cutter which can take on most things provided it uses the 4th moveslot for fat Water-types. Speaking of Lucario...
If there is any single pokemon in this meta which can abuse its stats to fish matchups harder than any other, it is Mega Lucario with insane 145/140 offensive stats. It doesn't seem impressive at first glance, but it can run Steely Spirit Choice Band, Tough Claws Choice Band, Choice Specs Sharpness, and even Simple Fist Plate Nasty Plot. The fact that it isn't clear whether its physical or special gives it an immediate advantage the first turn it comes in and it can very easily 2HKO an opponent's pokemon if they make an unfortunate prediction. A mon like this can easily nuke Water-types with its special attack stat being even higher than Mega Blaziken, as it will almost always get off Volt Switch with ease and Electro Drift does even more damage. Any other physical walls get shredded by STAB Sunsteel Strike.
Take Heart is a move that can invalidate most forms of passively checking a Pokemon with the sole exception of Salt Cure, and is very easily abused on a lot of pokemon to be able to win games through brute force rather than strategy. Arceus is the most common user, but really, anything with a passable Special Attack/Defense stat can utilize this move and apply pressure rather easily. Most non-standard TH pokemon are used for the purpose of fishing matchups because there's very little that can take these pokemon on once more than one boost is accrued. Even beyond that, defensive pokemon like Primal Kyogre can utilize Take Heart and can break slower teams with ease. Basically, the only genuinely bad Take Heart user I've seen is Mega Audino. I think Mega Audino sucks for any offensive purposes.
I feel like I've rambled on long enough, and while this post is significantly longer than most, I've written my experience with SV Balanced Hackmons over the course of the generation passively playing. My main point is that I think that while the metagame is somewhat stable with nothing truly super offending, I also think that this metagame is extremely heavy on matchup fishing and the problem with this is that it is very hard at a baseline level for most players to make a team due to the teambuilding strain, as there are constantly matchups that are borderline if not outright unwinnable and unplayable against, regardless of the skill level of both players involved. Looking at previous generations, its clear that offense ended up benefitting heavily while defensive pokemon were severely nerfed.
Sorry for the long post, everyone, I wanted to get my thoughts off on a lot of stuff and wanted some thoughts from other players on what I said. I know given I'm fairly new that my opinion has less weight than other people like old timers, but I hope some other people give it some genuine thought. For the record: I think action should happen with Mega Blaziken/V-create in some form, but wasn't able to get reqs in time...
252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken-Mega Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Beedrill-Mega: 124-146 (37.1 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
to "do more damage". Well, I'll be posting a lot of sets with +speed to punish these greedy players. I swear I will instill fear that their breakers will be outsped and die before accomplishing a single thing because they dare go neutral speed. Finally,I think V-create is the natural coverage choice since this move is very strong and hits steels.
252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Necrozma-Ultra: 146-174 (36.6 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Koraidon: 132-156 (32.6 - 38.6%) -- 97.9% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Alakazam-Mega: 93-111 (29.6 - 35.3%) -- 19.3% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Never-Melt Ice Refrigerate Kyurem-White Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Ting-Lu: 446-528 (86.7 - 102.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
or 
is the best item on the set because we are running three Ice-type moves. This means that your team has to have strong hazard removal. Secondly, this set doesn't really beat TH Arceus which is the most common setup sweeper. This is a bit uncommon but Covert Cloak stops flinches (thanks VGC) though to be honest, most of the mons you want to Fake Out are offensive and so are unlikely to have it. It does matter on walls since you'll lose free chip damage but you probably want to click Boomburst.
252 SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Giratina-Origin: 516-608 (102.3 - 120.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
for free and OHKO it even from full.
252 SpA Arceus-Ground Revelation Dance vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 55-66 (7.7 - 9.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
) or a Magic Guard mon. However, if you do end up loading into a TH Sap Arceus or non Secret Sword special breakers, this mon will perform exceptionally well.
and the other mons don't offer useful physical bulk or typing so if you expect 2+ physical breakers then do not bring. Because of Dialga, our regens can't run Nuzzle or Salt Cure which makes it vulnerable to some TH sets.
Comes in on status moves.
+1 252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Stone Axe vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Yveltal: 338-402 (74.1 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
or 
+ Dragon Darts actually lets you stay in on Dragon Energy mons like 
or a PSea mon. Just the existence of these mons discourage 
. Believe it or not, Necrozma's typing walls 
