Close! The highest we've found so far are Darkrai @ Diancite, BST 870, and Kyurem @ Diancite, BST 860.
Also, be careful with knock off in this meta -- transformation items can't be knocked!
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Also, be careful with knock off in this meta -- transformation items can't be knocked!
I'm surprised Smeargle isn't banned. With 110/110/130 defenses and Mold Breaker, it's great for hazard stack or other supporting roles, but it also has the offenses to pull off crazy sets like this:
Smeargle @ Ampharosite
Ability: Own Tempo
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Milk Drink
- Stored Power
- No Retreat / Clangorous Soul
- Jaw Lock / Boomburst
After a couple boosts it can beat almost anything (except Dark types, if you're using the No Retreat version), and with enough boosts it can even OHKO Sablenite Blissey.
+4 252 SpA Smeargle Stored Power (420 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 663-780 (101.6 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Smeargle @ Ampharosite
Ability: Own Tempo
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Milk Drink
- Stored Power
- No Retreat / Clangorous Soul
- Jaw Lock / Boomburst
After a couple boosts it can beat almost anything (except Dark types, if you're using the No Retreat version), and with enough boosts it can even OHKO Sablenite Blissey.
+4 252 SpA Smeargle Stored Power (420 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 663-780 (101.6 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Eviolite has been banned in Mix n’ Boosted!Mix n’ Boosted began with Eviolite unbanned due to the higher power level compared to base Bad n’ Boosted. However, despite high attack threats like Diancite
and Rusted Sword 
, some NFE and LC pokemon like 
Quaxwell (140/130/120), 
Clefairy (140/96/130), 
Eelektrik (130/140/140), and 
Girafarig (140/130/130) are able to become nearly unkillable with the 1.5x boost to their defenses. Additionally, the lack of Knock Off in the tier means these Eviolite users almost never have to worry about losing their item.Example Calcs:
+1 252 Atk Rusted Sword Zamazenta (150 Atk) Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quaxwell: 138-163 (28.5 - 33.7%) -- 0.3% chance to 3HKO
+2 252 SpA Diancite Darkrai (195 SpA) Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Quaxwell: 151-178 (31.2 - 36.8%) -- 74.1% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Diancite Kyurem (190 SpA) Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Eelektrik: 108-127 (23.2 - 27.3%) -- 64.1% chance to 4HKO
Not sure if we can update STABmons Ubers VR anytime soon, but I'd like to comment on some stuff especially with post-tera, post-bans metagame.
New --> A+ Probably one of the best Pokemon in the tier. You can run it on pretty much any archetype and it'll perform. CM, Scarf, Specs, Utility, AoA, Sash or Booster Energy, it can run pretty much anything it wants and get away with it. Also helps that Groudon is a solid defensive guy at the moment and an enabler for sun, so you can abuse Flutter Mane on Sun very easily. Flutter Mane also happens to be the best offensive Sun check in the game since you outspeed and pummel most of the abusers with Fleur Cannon. I think it could legitimately be an S or S- tier mon, but it is linear in what it runs and can be (for STUBers standards) easily answered.
S --> S- Took a fairly massive hit with the Gigaton Hammer ban. I think the offensive-defensive profile is there but you don't have the luxury of clicking Gigaton on virtually the entire tier. Shift Gear is still annoying, TR can catch quite a few people off guard and defensive sets are alright into the threats here. Tera ban also means it is less likely (but still VERY MUCH capable) of getting away with Rage Fist Shenanigans.
S --> A+ This is a bit more controversial. I think Zacian's main benefit, other than its speed and offenses, were its access to Tera. Tera helped you switch match-ups on Ho-Oh and NDM with Electric / Fighting helping out respectively. Without Tera, you struggle significantly more into these resists. You don't gain much in STAB aside from the Fairy-type aside from Magical Torque and the rarely seen Moonlight, and you gain virtually nothing from the Steel-type. Still a very solid offensive threat and works well as speed control.
C+ --> B I know this is just baby Palkia-Origin, but I think we underestimated how good the speed boost is from Sun. Yes, you really hate Flutter Mane, but if you take a look at the B ranks, you notice that they're kinda meh overall. I definitely think that Walking Wake is superior to Palkia Origin on Sun especially with the Clangorous Soul ban in mind, and you're about as good as Chi-Yu on sun. You sacrifice crazy breaking power for more speed and a bit more consistency with both Specs and Boots working well.
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--> Higher ; These guys got better with the Tera Ban. Now you can't cheese Gira-O by turning Fairy (or Normal) and Gira-O has a pretty solid MU into top tiers like Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre and arguably NDM too. Zamazenta-Crowned really likes people not running Tera Poison or Ghost to screw it and also appreciates the big boys losing their gigaton hammers. With Victory Dance and that speed, you check pretty much every Dark-type in the tier offensively.
A --> A- Still very strong, but no tera means that you struggle into NDM and Zacian-Crowned. Also feels weird putting this with its A-ranked contemporaries. Incidentally, I think Garchomp 
could also drop down and take KyuB's slot here since I also feel that it depended on Clangorous Soul and Tera a lot. However, Chomp has a pretty scary Scarf set that might clinch it as an A+ ranker.
--> Lower (thinking A- or B+). I was eyeing other drops but a lot of them evened out. Maybe Mewtwo, Lunala and Terapagos could drop in the future but I think they still have potent niches in the tier namely the last 2 which provide useful utility options whilst simultaneously trading with everything in the tier. Dialga losing Tera, Clangorous Soul AND Gigaton Hammer is a huge blow since it cuts it set diversity significantly. I could even see it dropping to B, but you do still have Shift Gear, Specs and Offensive TR to fall back on plus a solid typing for Kyogre. Dialga Origin 
could rise too since you appreciate the special defense buff and aren't as screwed running it thanks to the bans (meaning less opportunity cost for not running base Dialga).
--> Lower. Pretty sure I only ranked this guy highly because of E-Killer sets and that is now gone. B is fine because you can still run Band or DD on screens and get away with it. I was tempted to make a case for rising Dragonite from UR but its still several degrees worse than Rayquaza to even consider. I would probably run Band Mence > any dnite set if I wanted the Dragon/Flying spam so badly.
--> B- ? I forgot what this guy did. Ig he can check Ho-Oh and Groudon pretty well. Not really a serious nom, but I don't think Gliscor is up to par with the rest of B.
--> B+ You punish NDM and Zacian-Crowned a lot better with Beak Blast now that tera is banned. Sits on most Groudons, chumps Chomps and man-handles Landos too.
and 
could be lower, but I don't really have a passionate argument to make here. Zekrom kinda muscles through grounds with chip (altho much less likely because you don't have Tera Grass / Flying) and Giratina can do kooky stuff with Infernal Parade though it is still passive.
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, 
--> Higher. All of these guys appreciate Tera being out of the picture. No tera-improofs and no Ghost tera to worry about. Go wild. I would say Gothitelle --> B-, Dugtrio to B-, and Ditto to B. I reckon that Dugtrio is slightly better as removing a defensive Steel-types for your dragons is of greater significance and the stuff that Dugtrio (even adamant Dugtrio) traps is greater than Gothitelle. But both are fairly niche at the end of the day.
--> C- Last nom that I'll discuss in-depth. I think Ninetales has the tiniest of niches here as an Aurora Veil setter for Kyurem-Black. Grimmsnarl largely outclasses this Pokemon for majority of teams and I have a suspicion that I would sooner use Klefki over it if Grimmsnarl weren't here. However, facilitating a strong (albeit slightly nerfed) Pokemon in Kyurem Black is a solid enough niche worth considering. Prior to the tera ban, you want KyuB to tera out of Ice/Dragon into something like Ground, Fire or Electric in order to do massive damage or gain a better defensive profile. With that gone, I reckon it is worth investing in a Pokemon that can guarantee you extra defensive bulk on top of Reflect. Alolan Ninetales' typing is also nice since you hit the other weather setters and Dragon-types hard.
I'll leave you with these two calcs:
New --> A+ Probably one of the best Pokemon in the tier. You can run it on pretty much any archetype and it'll perform. CM, Scarf, Specs, Utility, AoA, Sash or Booster Energy, it can run pretty much anything it wants and get away with it. Also helps that Groudon is a solid defensive guy at the moment and an enabler for sun, so you can abuse Flutter Mane on Sun very easily. Flutter Mane also happens to be the best offensive Sun check in the game since you outspeed and pummel most of the abusers with Fleur Cannon. I think it could legitimately be an S or S- tier mon, but it is linear in what it runs and can be (for STUBers standards) easily answered. S --> S- Took a fairly massive hit with the Gigaton Hammer ban. I think the offensive-defensive profile is there but you don't have the luxury of clicking Gigaton on virtually the entire tier. Shift Gear is still annoying, TR can catch quite a few people off guard and defensive sets are alright into the threats here. Tera ban also means it is less likely (but still VERY MUCH capable) of getting away with Rage Fist Shenanigans. S --> A+ This is a bit more controversial. I think Zacian's main benefit, other than its speed and offenses, were its access to Tera. Tera helped you switch match-ups on Ho-Oh and NDM with Electric / Fighting helping out respectively. Without Tera, you struggle significantly more into these resists. You don't gain much in STAB aside from the Fairy-type aside from Magical Torque and the rarely seen Moonlight, and you gain virtually nothing from the Steel-type. Still a very solid offensive threat and works well as speed control. C+ --> B I know this is just baby Palkia-Origin, but I think we underestimated how good the speed boost is from Sun. Yes, you really hate Flutter Mane, but if you take a look at the B ranks, you notice that they're kinda meh overall. I definitely think that Walking Wake is superior to Palkia Origin on Sun especially with the Clangorous Soul ban in mind, and you're about as good as Chi-Yu on sun. You sacrifice crazy breaking power for more speed and a bit more consistency with both Specs and Boots working well., --> Higher ; These guys got better with the Tera Ban. Now you can't cheese Gira-O by turning Fairy (or Normal) and Gira-O has a pretty solid MU into top tiers like Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre and arguably NDM too. Zamazenta-Crowned really likes people not running Tera Poison or Ghost to screw it and also appreciates the big boys losing their gigaton hammers. With Victory Dance and that speed, you check pretty much every Dark-type in the tier offensively. A --> A- Still very strong, but no tera means that you struggle into NDM and Zacian-Crowned. Also feels weird putting this with its A-ranked contemporaries. Incidentally, I think Garchomp could also drop down and take KyuB's slot here since I also feel that it depended on Clangorous Soul and Tera a lot. However, Chomp has a pretty scary Scarf set that might clinch it as an A+ ranker. --> Lower (thinking A- or B+). I was eyeing other drops but a lot of them evened out. Maybe Mewtwo, Lunala and Terapagos could drop in the future but I think they still have potent niches in the tier namely the last 2 which provide useful utility options whilst simultaneously trading with everything in the tier. Dialga losing Tera, Clangorous Soul AND Gigaton Hammer is a huge blow since it cuts it set diversity significantly. I could even see it dropping to B, but you do still have Shift Gear, Specs and Offensive TR to fall back on plus a solid typing for Kyogre. Dialga Origin could rise too since you appreciate the special defense buff and aren't as screwed running it thanks to the bans (meaning less opportunity cost for not running base Dialga). --> Lower. Pretty sure I only ranked this guy highly because of E-Killer sets and that is now gone. B is fine because you can still run Band or DD on screens and get away with it. I was tempted to make a case for rising Dragonite from UR but its still several degrees worse than Rayquaza to even consider. I would probably run Band Mence > any dnite set if I wanted the Dragon/Flying spam so badly. --> B- ? I forgot what this guy did. Ig he can check Ho-Oh and Groudon pretty well. Not really a serious nom, but I don't think Gliscor is up to par with the rest of B. --> B+ You punish NDM and Zacian-Crowned a lot better with Beak Blast now that tera is banned. Sits on most Groudons, chumps Chomps and man-handles Landos too. and could be lower, but I don't really have a passionate argument to make here. Zekrom kinda muscles through grounds with chip (altho much less likely because you don't have Tera Grass / Flying) and Giratina can do kooky stuff with Infernal Parade though it is still passive., , --> Higher. All of these guys appreciate Tera being out of the picture. No tera-improofs and no Ghost tera to worry about. Go wild. I would say Gothitelle --> B-, Dugtrio to B-, and Ditto to B. I reckon that Dugtrio is slightly better as removing a defensive Steel-types for your dragons is of greater significance and the stuff that Dugtrio (even adamant Dugtrio) traps is greater than Gothitelle. But both are fairly niche at the end of the day. --> C- Last nom that I'll discuss in-depth. I think Ninetales has the tiniest of niches here as an Aurora Veil setter for Kyurem-Black. Grimmsnarl largely outclasses this Pokemon for majority of teams and I have a suspicion that I would sooner use Klefki over it if Grimmsnarl weren't here. However, facilitating a strong (albeit slightly nerfed) Pokemon in Kyurem Black is a solid enough niche worth considering. Prior to the tera ban, you want KyuB to tera out of Ice/Dragon into something like Ground, Fire or Electric in order to do massive damage or gain a better defensive profile. With that gone, I reckon it is worth investing in a Pokemon that can guarantee you extra defensive bulk on top of Reflect. Alolan Ninetales' typing is also nice since you hit the other weather setters and Dragon-types hard.I'll leave you with these two calcs:
252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem-Black in Snow with an ally's Aurora Veil: 138-163 (35.2 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem-Black in Snow with an ally's Aurora Veil: 181-214 (46.2 - 54.7%) -- 62.1% chance to 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem-Black in Snow with an ally's Aurora Veil: 181-214 (46.2 - 54.7%) -- 62.1% chance to 2HKO
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