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Pet Mod Super Smash Mods Brawl | Slate 3 - Winners | Council Applications Open
- Thread starter AquaticPanic
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Crop Circle Artist (Ma’adowr)
Deririrak (CCAPM 2024)
Cogwyld (CCAPM 2024)
Blastoise (Megas Revisited)
Hitmontop (Multiverse)
Buzzwole (Earth & Sky: Horizons)
Dhelmise (Triple Threat)
Fuel Cell (Clubmons Requiem)
Garcanacl Plushie (Dollhouse)
Deririrak (CCAPM 2024)
Cogwyld (CCAPM 2024)
Blastoise (Megas Revisited)
Hitmontop (Multiverse)
Buzzwole (Earth & Sky: Horizons)
Dhelmise (Triple Threat)
Fuel Cell (Clubmons Requiem)
Garcanacl Plushie (Dollhouse)
Voting does end in 24 hours, can we get some votes?
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Fetagross (Poketypos) (SV)
Dhelmise (Triple Threat)
Hitmontop (Multiverse)
Praying Visitor (Ma’adower)
Buzzwole (Earth & Sky Horizons)
Gyarados (regeneration)
Shuriken (Iron Fist)
Dhelmise (Triple Threat)
Hitmontop (Multiverse)
Praying Visitor (Ma’adower)
Buzzwole (Earth & Sky Horizons)
Gyarados (regeneration)
Shuriken (Iron Fist)
!!! New Challengers Approach !!!
DHELMISE ANCHORS AWEIGH!
Dhelmise (Triple Threat)
Type:
Ability: Steelworker
Stats: 90 / 131 / 100 / 86 / 90 / 60 (BST: 557)
MEGA BLASTOISE IS BLASTING OFF AGAIN!
Blastoise (Megas Revisited)
Type:
Ability: Torrent / Rain Dish
Stats: 79 / 83 / 100 / 85 / 105 / 78 (BST: 530)
Mega Blastoise (Megas Revisited)
Type:
Ability: Misty Surge
Stats: 79 / 83 / 130 / 135 / 105 / 98 (BST: 630)
PRAYING VISITOR COMES IN PEACE!
Praying Visitor (Ma'adowr)
Type:
Ability: Natural Cure / Rewind
Stats: 100 / 70 / 119 / 119 / 88 / 104 (BST: 600)
MEGA GYARADOS TURNS THE TIDES!
Gyarados (ReGeneration)
Type:
Ability: Violent Abandon
Stats: 100 / 100 / 107 / 70 / 92 / 71 (BST: 540)
Mega Gyarados (ReGeneration)
Type:
Ability: Violent Abandon
Stats: 100 / 125 / 107 / 105 / 122 / 81 (BST: 640)
HITMONTOP IS IN FOR A SPIN!
Hitmontop (Multiverse)
Type:
Ability: Intimidate / Technician
Stats: 80 / 115 / 100 / 40 / 110 / 60 (BST: 505)
DHELMISE ANCHORS AWEIGH!
Dhelmise (Triple Threat)
Type:
Ability: Steelworker
Stats: 90 / 131 / 100 / 86 / 90 / 60 (BST: 557)
MEGA BLASTOISE IS BLASTING OFF AGAIN!
Blastoise (Megas Revisited)
Type:
Ability: Torrent / Rain Dish
Stats: 79 / 83 / 100 / 85 / 105 / 78 (BST: 530)
Mega Blastoise (Megas Revisited)
Type:
Ability: Misty Surge
Stats: 79 / 83 / 130 / 135 / 105 / 98 (BST: 630)
PRAYING VISITOR COMES IN PEACE!
Praying Visitor (Ma'adowr)
Type:
Ability: Natural Cure / Rewind
Stats: 100 / 70 / 119 / 119 / 88 / 104 (BST: 600)
MEGA GYARADOS TURNS THE TIDES!
Gyarados (ReGeneration)
Type:
Ability: Violent Abandon
Stats: 100 / 100 / 107 / 70 / 92 / 71 (BST: 540)
Mega Gyarados (ReGeneration)
Type:
Ability: Violent Abandon
Stats: 100 / 125 / 107 / 105 / 122 / 81 (BST: 640)
HITMONTOP IS IN FOR A SPIN!
Hitmontop (Multiverse)
Type:
Ability: Intimidate / Technician
Stats: 80 / 115 / 100 / 40 / 110 / 60 (BST: 505)
New Items have been unlocked!
Garganacl Plushie (Dollhouse)Dhelmise (Triple Threat) - 5
Praying Visitor (Ma'adowr) - 5
Blastoise (Megas Revisited) - 4
Gyarados (ReGen) - 4
Hitmontop (Multiverse) - 4
Fetagross (PokeTypos) - 3
Weeping Vine (Book of Enigmas) - 2
Buzzwole (Earth & Sky) - 2
Cogwyld (CCPAPM 2024) - 2
Vivit (Touhoumons) - 2
Leafeon (Glacemons) - 2
Crop Circle Artist (Ma'adowr) - 1
Deririrak (CCAPM 2024) - 1
Fieratt (VGC 20XX) - 1
Antney (Kaen's Dex) - 1
Houndoom (Iron Fist) - 1
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Garganacl Plushie (Dollhouse) - 3
Stelarium-Z (Iron Fist) - 2
Utility Umbrella (Glacemons) - 2
Fuel Cell (Clubmons Requiem) - 1
Shuriken (Iron Fist) - 1
Praying Visitor (Ma'adowr) - 5
Blastoise (Megas Revisited) - 4
Gyarados (ReGen) - 4
Hitmontop (Multiverse) - 4
Fetagross (PokeTypos) - 3
Weeping Vine (Book of Enigmas) - 2
Buzzwole (Earth & Sky) - 2
Cogwyld (CCPAPM 2024) - 2
Vivit (Touhoumons) - 2
Leafeon (Glacemons) - 2
Crop Circle Artist (Ma'adowr) - 1
Deririrak (CCAPM 2024) - 1
Fieratt (VGC 20XX) - 1
Antney (Kaen's Dex) - 1
Houndoom (Iron Fist) - 1
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Garganacl Plushie (Dollhouse) - 3
Stelarium-Z (Iron Fist) - 2
Utility Umbrella (Glacemons) - 2
Fuel Cell (Clubmons Requiem) - 1
Shuriken (Iron Fist) - 1
Please discuss what you think of these fighters! We return on August 30th for Slate 4. Stay tuned!
Hello mon review
Three typings is cool. It serves as great insurance for Ground types in the future, and has a somewhat decent matchup with the current Ground in the tier. It's main utility is that of a Rapid Spinner that also blocks spin itself, all while having a great matchup with the other two spinners added. It's honestly pretty decent and I can see it aging well. Probably helps that the Garganacl item that gimps Ghosts for Rock types isn't liking a Water and Grass type that fucks it over.
Mega Blastoise is a strong asf Mega, complete with a decent SpA, great bulk, and a surprisingly great Speed tier of 98 (out speeds Samuraiai!). Mega Toise will most likely come out as a majorly influencial Pokémon for the foreseeable future, especially as Fighting and Dark type Pokémon becomes more prominent in the tier. As of right now though, it more or less single handly bricks the Three Dragon metagame that existed prior. All three of them had means to touch bypass it, but realistically none of them could ever 1v1 this. Great slot.
Another crazy good Fairy type submission, it technically has a worse matchup overall versus the Dragons since Dialga can hit it for SE damage, but otherwise it's insanely potent offensive glue for the metagame right now. It out speeds a vast majority of mons that are currently in the tier, it 1v1s basically everything that does out speed it and very little can reliably beat it without feeling explicitly broken. It feels like as of rn it could solidy it as the new S rank of the tier.
The metagame's first set up sweeper, that can Tera, and also more or less can Imposter proof itself. Gyarados will be a ferocious wincon to face, and I can see the possibility of it feeling somewhat problematic for a bit until more consistent defensive mons + revenge killers get introduced.
The first Fighting type so far, and it's one that doesn't even really lose to the myriad of Fairies introduced (depending on set). It is the worst at explicitly spinning out of the three spinners added, but it can do a good job at checking physical attackers and being an overall decent defensive pivot thanks to Intimidate, good bulk and good defensive typing.
Items are cool. Stellarium Z feels like a fun compromise for Z-Moves, and makes set up wallbreakers alot more interesting as to how they are checked, considering everything has a big universal unresisted, but not STAB boosted nuke. Garg Plush makes Rock types potentially great, and we have one rn that probably wants the extra bump. I don't have any idea what Utility Umbrella oughts to do.
With this slate we have 4 separate field effects to take advantage of - Extended Trick Room, Auto Gravity, Grassy Terrain and to a lesser extent Misty Terrain. I hope to see these get fleshed out as the metagame develops and see just what kind of metagame we can get when taking these team archtypes into account.
Three typings is cool. It serves as great insurance for Ground types in the future, and has a somewhat decent matchup with the current Ground in the tier. It's main utility is that of a Rapid Spinner that also blocks spin itself, all while having a great matchup with the other two spinners added. It's honestly pretty decent and I can see it aging well. Probably helps that the Garganacl item that gimps Ghosts for Rock types isn't liking a Water and Grass type that fucks it over. Mega Blastoise is a strong asf Mega, complete with a decent SpA, great bulk, and a surprisingly great Speed tier of 98 (out speeds Samuraiai!). Mega Toise will most likely come out as a majorly influencial Pokémon for the foreseeable future, especially as Fighting and Dark type Pokémon becomes more prominent in the tier. As of right now though, it more or less single handly bricks the Three Dragon metagame that existed prior. All three of them had means to touch bypass it, but realistically none of them could ever 1v1 this. Great slot. Another crazy good Fairy type submission, it technically has a worse matchup overall versus the Dragons since Dialga can hit it for SE damage, but otherwise it's insanely potent offensive glue for the metagame right now. It out speeds a vast majority of mons that are currently in the tier, it 1v1s basically everything that does out speed it and very little can reliably beat it without feeling explicitly broken. It feels like as of rn it could solidy it as the new S rank of the tier. The metagame's first set up sweeper, that can Tera, and also more or less can Imposter proof itself. Gyarados will be a ferocious wincon to face, and I can see the possibility of it feeling somewhat problematic for a bit until more consistent defensive mons + revenge killers get introduced. The first Fighting type so far, and it's one that doesn't even really lose to the myriad of Fairies introduced (depending on set). It is the worst at explicitly spinning out of the three spinners added, but it can do a good job at checking physical attackers and being an overall decent defensive pivot thanks to Intimidate, good bulk and good defensive typing.Items are cool. Stellarium Z feels like a fun compromise for Z-Moves, and makes set up wallbreakers alot more interesting as to how they are checked, considering everything has a big universal unresisted, but not STAB boosted nuke. Garg Plush makes Rock types potentially great, and we have one rn that probably wants the extra bump. I don't have any idea what Utility Umbrella oughts to do.
With this slate we have 4 separate field effects to take advantage of - Extended Trick Room, Auto Gravity, Grassy Terrain and to a lesser extent Misty Terrain. I hope to see these get fleshed out as the metagame develops and see just what kind of metagame we can get when taking these team archtypes into account.
Today, I took a look at the builder to get a better feel for the meta. While trying to build different teams, I noticed Trick Room already has a solid foundation. So, there doesn't seem to be much of a need to flash it out, but that can always change with the introduction of new Pkm. From the looks of it, certain threats can be a little bit difficult for Trick Room to handle, notably G-Max Centiskorch since it's so tanky if Stealth Rock isn't present and assuming Dynamax doubles HP. Another potential obstacle for Trick Room is the Drampa fusion, which will likely need to run a Spe lowering nature to ensure different types of teams have a splashable answer against Trick Room.
Currently, I imagine a Trick Room core might be based around Dialga, Gravlord, Aurorus-Paleo, and the Claydol Paradox. The two former already have some decent defensive and offensive synergy. Under Trick Room, Gravlord is a force to be reckoned with due to its coverage options pressuring its would-be checks. As for Aurorus-Paleo, well, you could just spam Choice Specs Shadow Ball or set-up with Nasty Plot to dismantle teams since we lack good Ghost resists at the moment. It's quite possible to experiment with Dhelmise due to its great resistance profile and offensive capabilities. It also eases the Drampa fusion mu a bit but is more prone to wasting turns than Aurorus-Paleo by virtue of being a physical Pkm; your opponent can mitigate damage with Intimidate, Parting Shot, and Burn from moves like Lava Plume, Scald or Will-O-Wisp. When it comes to Claydol, it has a stabilizing role on the Trick Room archetype, tanking a variety of hits from the likes of G-Max Centiskorch, among others, and has the Trick Room + Teleport combo. In short, you aren't too reliant on Dialga as the Trick Room setter.
That being said, while it's important to flash out all the different archetypes, I think it wouldn't hurt to have more Aurorus-Paleo checks. This meta lacks good splashable Ghost resists. Sure, you can try answering Aurorus-Paleo offensively. Though, I noticed it has Recover, Calm Mind, and Nasty Plot. Which means it can be fairly resilient and potent to the point where even our Fairy Pkm will have some trouble dealing with it.
Currently, I imagine a Trick Room core might be based around Dialga, Gravlord, Aurorus-Paleo, and the Claydol Paradox. The two former already have some decent defensive and offensive synergy. Under Trick Room, Gravlord is a force to be reckoned with due to its coverage options pressuring its would-be checks. As for Aurorus-Paleo, well, you could just spam Choice Specs Shadow Ball or set-up with Nasty Plot to dismantle teams since we lack good Ghost resists at the moment. It's quite possible to experiment with Dhelmise due to its great resistance profile and offensive capabilities. It also eases the Drampa fusion mu a bit but is more prone to wasting turns than Aurorus-Paleo by virtue of being a physical Pkm; your opponent can mitigate damage with Intimidate, Parting Shot, and Burn from moves like Lava Plume, Scald or Will-O-Wisp. When it comes to Claydol, it has a stabilizing role on the Trick Room archetype, tanking a variety of hits from the likes of G-Max Centiskorch, among others, and has the Trick Room + Teleport combo. In short, you aren't too reliant on Dialga as the Trick Room setter.
That being said, while it's important to flash out all the different archetypes, I think it wouldn't hurt to have more Aurorus-Paleo checks. This meta lacks good splashable Ghost resists. Sure, you can try answering Aurorus-Paleo offensively. Though, I noticed it has Recover, Calm Mind, and Nasty Plot. Which means it can be fairly resilient and potent to the point where even our Fairy Pkm will have some trouble dealing with it.