Popcorn Mafia 4 - Cycle 14 Deadline September 4 at 10PM EDT

on the real a fairy's done her duty with shooting an afk (especially one who's scum) so imo she can hero shoot if she wants and I think tommy's her biggest scumread who'd be a hero shot

and I happen to agree with that scumread so yk
 
and bc if a fairy is confident in her tommy read, if she doesn't shoot him who else will

i prob won't tommy can manipulate me very easily and I'm sure he'll do that once I have the gun
 
so I'm town trying to get the gun, not scum trying to get a fairy to shoot town?

I think you don’t believe a fairy is shooting me

But at the same time tbh you’re perplexing me a lot whatever your alignment it makes no sense what you’re trying to do

Like as town or mafia I cannot comprehend why you would post this, I have townread tin to now but like

Am I just giving you the free est push ever or are you the newest member of the tommy is mafia every game club

Even the post you did there you’re phrasing it like only I can shoot Tommy so I have to do it… but it reads like fear that I’ll win as mafia that you want to stop in the instance I am, not a legitimate read that I’m the scummiest person in the game or likely to be mafia

If you’re town then you should really consider are you trying to win for town or you’re willing to risk every game im in to shoot me just for existing, there’s no real reason to actually think I’m mafia at this point beyond you seem to think I’m mafia for being me (and I’m not even in my scum meta)
 
At this point (I forget if I’ve said it before) but Texas is almost a lock town for me. The interaction between him and fairy screamed town vs town to me and obviously fairy is town so he’s probably my biggest town read.

I do not feel the same about Tommy vs Celever though, I think Tommy is one of the most townie people in the game and Tommy’s right, the tunneling on him is insane lol. I don’t think Celever (based off vibes and what I know) would be pulling the “I’m trying to get the gun as town” play that Tommy mentioned so I’m forced to consider him maf.

that said I think we should still shoot des for behavior that has been actively harmful to town. Now that joey (maf) is gone I feel like the risk/reward of a des shot is even more in our favor
 
I think you don’t believe a fairy is shooting me

But at the same time tbh you’re perplexing me a lot whatever your alignment it makes no sense what you’re trying to do

Like as town or mafia I cannot comprehend why you would post this, I have townread tin to now but like

Am I just giving you the free est push ever or are you the newest member of the tommy is mafia every game club

Even the post you did there you’re phrasing it like only I can shoot Tommy so I have to do it… but it reads like fear that I’ll win as mafia that you want to stop in the instance I am, not a legitimate read that I’m the scummiest person in the game or likely to be mafia

If you’re town then you should really consider are you trying to win for town or you’re willing to risk every game im in to shoot me just for existing, there’s no real reason to actually think I’m mafia at this point beyond you seem to think I’m mafia for being me (and I’m not even in my scum meta)
See what I mean a fairy he started the manip now
 
Smh, really love how we're ignoring my contributions cuz I was a scum's top village read. I'm a good bean, I've been helpful.

Case in point:
Joey I have higher than Pulsar, cause I liked their posts on the first day. Des I have in towards the middle almost exclusively because Clouds shaded them in one of their posts before they died on the first day #143 and people said they just play like this, that or Clouds was just sheeping Des.

And I'm super conflicted about a fairy cause I was scumreading them earlier cause their convo with Celever seemed manufactured [some might say contrived], (like equally, it could of been S/S or S/T was the feeling I got), but apparently that's just how they interact with each other so I'm not really sure. But they've been really consistent with the Pulsar scum read, so I think if Pulsar flips maf it'll be gucci and I'd rather shoot them first.

Plus, after backreading I think Skipper was kind of pushing the a fairy angle at the start. And I might have been reading a fairy as scum partially because someone said maf are probs gunna try and create separation between each other and I thought it was just me and a fairy on the Flandrs is town side so I thought they might be maf. But Skipper also started with Flandrs as town the first day, and flipped to calling Flandrs scum right before Miyami shot them, so that might cover that. (Which I might also check who Miyami was planning on shooting that day to see if maybe that came into play on why Skipper changed their mind at the last minute.)
Original Joey and aFairy reads
I'm considering shooting fairy for chainsaw defending skipper against realiti. Thoughts?
BD shot thoughts
Reasons why I think we shouldn't shoot a fairy today:

This post from skipper was pushing a fairy as scum, fairly early on. Some of early discussion was folks kind of scumreading a fairy for commenting on who was chosen as gunbearer, and now much like the Flandrs discourse, it's making me feel like they might just be an easy person to push a shot on. I'm assuming in EGO a fairy was village? If that's the case a fairy also pushed against a Flandrs shot this game, so the logic ain't logic-ing

This isn't Clouds necessarily reading a fairy as scum, but I don't think if Clouds and a fairy were mafia buddies that Clouds would bring up a quote from AP saying a fairy was scummy just to get points for town reading AP.

And this is also partially why I think a fairy / Pulsar can't be teamed aside from a fairy's consistent Pulsar scum read

Also, #650-#652 posts also make me feel like a fairy and airc can't be paired either. There aren't enough people I think are bad that could be on a team with a fairy for her to be scum, is where I'm at now.
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Why Would Skipper Flip on Flandrs?:
Also I was incorrect about Skipper changing their mind on Flandrs at the last second. I looked back and they did fully state it during the Miyami cycle where Miyami was contemplating shooting between Flandrs and Joey.

But they first flipped during the second HyHy Cycle where a lot more people were on the list like Flandrs, Joey, Pulsar, Des, Cel were the most popular that I remember.

In which case, I could see Joey more likely as mafia tbh.
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Final Thoughts:
Aside from that, if I get shot cause my content quality got better that'd make me feel super cool, tbh B-). I kind of thought I was gunna get shot earlier and I picked out a really cool video I'm gunna send if I get to fire a gun. But I still think we should shoot AirC, and then Pulsar, and then maybe Joey afterwards o7

Town
Me
Tommy=Texas=DBD
a fairy>>Evie>>>Celever
Phoopes>>>>Des
Joey>>>Pulsar
AirC
Scum


Also colors are dope.
Updated reads after more backreading + I think I was one of the few people who replied to the not shooting a fairy + updated Joey read.
If you're town, consider shooting in joey/Celever/af, although I think pebble brought to light a good interaction between af and skipper that it would be dicey to shoot her over joey/Celever.
Vs updated Bluedoom shot onto Pulsar with reasoning on who to shoot after.

I'm not gunna put in that level of looking for things if I'm scum, let alone pushing a shot off of a fairy that half of people were reading as scum at the time, and gradually swapping Joey from Neutral to Scumlean because of Skipper's reversal on Flandrs.

It's driving me a little nuts that we're relying on dead peoples reads alone without taking into account new content/interactions, feels lazy. I'd rather be shot on my own merits tyvm.

Town
Me
Texas>>DBD
Evie>Celever>Tommy
Phoopes
Des=AirC
Scum

If Des is playing as diff as a fairy is saying they are I think they should still be shot. AirC spent the last couple days fighting DBD for wanting them shot, and then flipped onto the only other person who also wanted them shot as maf today, Me <3 still feels as scummy as the days before. So that's who I'd be okay shooting.

I feel better abt Evie and Celever after their interactions with Joey right before he was shot, mainly cause I don't think Joey was expecting to be shot over Des. And Tommy feels worse cause he wants to kill me :Y but idk that he's maf yet cause a lot of why I sus AirC is because of things Tommy pointed out.

9 players, 1 gunbearer. 1 gunbearer, 6 village, 3 maf. Someone check my math.

1/6/3
BS
1/5/3
BS
1/4/3
BS
1/3/3 - Ah!
BS - Loss
GS - 1/3/2 - Keep going
VS - 1/2/2 - Ah!
 
well, looks like we'll lose because a fellow town member decided to get angry for no reason. classic smogtown
 
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