Resource SV LC Viability Rankings

xonks said:
over time, snowshrew can find more opportunities to come in and spin or do damage. that’s the main argument, not that quaxly/snowshrew can win more 1v1s in a vacuum. even if quaxly comes in safely and threatens an rko, it doesn’t do enough damage to punish switches.
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I'm not arguing that quaxly can come in more, I'm saying quaxly is irreplaceable on offense structures built around it and that those structures are viable. I think overall shrew and toed are better on more teams which is why i'm not arguing quaxly is better overall or that it should be higher than either of them
 
Fighting Resist VR
:foongus: S
  • 25 15 13 is premier bulk
  • poison type strongly prefers grass type in a meta with 2 great ground types
  • spore is extremely good, game warping status. best sleep user
  • access to regen for synergy with foo, let's foongus be more active throughout the entire game
:snubbull:/:mareanie:  B

:snubbull:
  • fairy type. walls foo, baits in poisons, threatens vull
  • intimidate, twave, thief cover utility needs in builder
  • great physical coverage in the elemental punches, eq, fairy stab
:Mareanie:
  • fallen titan, lost access to knock off, scald
  • water type is excellent defensive coverage
  • relatively fast for its class
:Koffing:/:ekans:/:vullaby: C

:koffing:
  • Decent utility options in wisp, pain split, thief
  • Excellent phys bulk
  • 2 good abilities in Neutralising Gas and levitate. N Gas allows koffing to deny mienfoo regen
:ekans:
  • Glare + knock off + 16 speed
  • Offensive, temporary fight resist
:vullaby:
  • Doesn't actually resist fight.
  • Most threatening mon in the tier. Better suited for other roles.
  • Weak armor allows vull to outspeed and threaten anything, uturn sponge
Offensive Pivot VR
:vullaby:S
:vullaby:
  • threatens physical and special damage, stab knock off, heat wave
  • weak armor provides elite speed tier 26-32
  • extremely bulky, 23 15 13 with minimal invest
  • air slash 30% flinch emulates rock slide in ADV
:mienfoo:/:chinchou:A
:mienfoo:
  • Huge HJK base power threatens most, makes fight resist almost mandatory
  • Regenerator + Uturn synergy
  • Top tier knock off user
:chinchou:
  • best electric immune. Invalidates most electrics
  • Threatens entire tier neutrally
:elekid:/:wingull:/:stunky:B
:elekid:
  • fastest native speed.
  • Gen 2 coverage, fire ice punch, psychic, knock
  • Baits in grounds + chou
:wingull:
  • Hurricane deals massive damage, access to knock uturn
  • Very frail. Hard to position without other pivots
:stunky:
  • no Pivot move
  • Comes in on common poison or dark move and threatens big dmg
Defensive Pivot VR
:mienfoo:S
:foongus:/:mudbray: A
:tinkatink:/:mareanie:/:shellos:/:vullaby:B
:tentacool: /:chinchou:C
Special Wallbreaker VR
:torchic: S
:vullaby:/:elekid:/:gothita: A
:wingull:/:poliwag:/:glimmet:B
:houndour:C
Physical Wallbreaker VR
:mienfoo:/:vullaby: S
:diglett-alola:/:stunky:A
:shellder:/:sandshrew-alola: B
:axew:/:cetoddle:/:quaxly:C
Stealth Rock Setter VR
:mudbray:/:glimmet:S
:tinkatink:/:shellos: A
:Diglett-alola:/:sandshrew-alola:B
:pawniard:C
Hazard Removal VR
:toedscool: S
:sandshrew-alola: A
:minccino:/:vullaby:B
:quaxly:C
 
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Screens + Turtwig is underrated. I realize that most of these posts are fairly old, but it's even better now than it was a year ago.
It gets value nearly every game. Can't crit through screens means at least one free Shell Smash most games.
It's bulky enough to live most hits and can even set up on tier king Mienfoo.
+2 Giga Drain, Earth Power, Tera Blast Fire sweeps most teams that already have damage on Mienfoo and Vullaby.
Can even get +4 sometimes if you have teammates that can lower the enemies offensive stats while you already have reflect up (teammate's intimidate, parting shot)

Very surprised that it is not used more.
 
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:vullaby: Vullaby :vullaby:

Please, someone explain me why you all think this Pokemon is top 2. I just cant get it. Im not saying is a bad Pokemon but im sure is overrated.

  1. Vullaby invites every rocker in the metagame (mudbray, tink, glimmet, sandshrew alola) to come in and set up rocks. This is really really bad considering vullaby its weak to rocks.
  2. It just kills itself. Weak to rocks + brave bird recoil and your vullaby is gone
  3. It isnt really fast without triggering its ability which sucks because if you switch to take a physical attack you will probably take rocks damage and your vullaby will be at low health. Then you are forced to roost while exposed to a physical attack at -1 defense or attack and die to recoil.
  4. With torchic ban, i found myself running more tera steels that vullaby doesnt want to face.
  5. It is checked by A LOT of things in the meta game. Tink, glimmet, mudbray, sandshrew, Elekid, chinchou, shellos, any tera steel, shellder can set up on it, mareanie is not bad vs it, mienfoo doesnt die at full, pawniard (fakemon), snubull (underrated)
  6. I dont think nasty plot sets are bad. They can sweep easily if the opponent didnt expect it. But even at +2 it fails to 1hko things and relies on flinches to win or a very good position at late game where everything is low. (Pretty mid, there are better late game sweepers anyways)
Guys i really really think you are all brainwashed into thinking vullaby is top 2 pokemon in the tier. Learn to build please.

:gothita: Gothita :gothita:

Amazing Pokemon right now in my opinion. Torchic was a Pokemon that gothita couldnt trap, and now its gone! Your team suffers vs diglett alola or elekid? Trap them (tera blast ground helps). You want to trap foongus and mareanie for mienfoo? Easy trap. You need help with [redacted], TRAP!

:mareanie: Mareanie :mareanie:

I think its good. Use the offensive set please. This pokemon has less switch ins than vullaby lmao and its actually decent defensively.

:grookey: Grookey :grookey:

I think this mon is underexplored right now. Its good vs diglett alola that might cause problems in the builder. Also smokes shellder, fuck it.

:snubbull: Snubbull :snubbull:

Another underrated mon in my opinion. Its good vs mienfoo and vullaby. Can absorb knock offs and its really good vs offensive teams. I think it NEEDS a hazard control teammate like toed since it lacks an efficient recovery move. Toed and snubull sinergize pretty well. This is a team with this core that felt solid during tests. https://pokepast.es/31984870e4afcde3
 
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