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Welcome to the Smogon Champions League V Discussion Thread -- Ubers edition! This thread will be used to discuss Ubers in SCL V related topics, whether it’s about the players, general metagame trends, matches, predictions and so on. Teams, Replays, and Usage Stats can be found here(SOON).
Well, it is time of the year, and I’m surprised somebody made a whole thread for just a single tier with a single slot in SCL, but more Ubers content? Hell yeah.
Rooting hard for Emoxu9 the goat, who knows what new discoveries will he make? Maybe we will see another set that is as funny as IDCM Arceus / NDM or substeel koraidon…
Anyways off to meta predictions, I predict that NDM will rise once more with the high usage of eternatus and substeel koraidon, though there are other mons that could also deal with the aforementioned threats well, I just feel like that many new techs are just coming from dusk mane, even seen dd Tera blast fire and cm sunsteel for some reason on the ladder. (us Chinese players are the greatest raghhhhh)
ok by popular demand im here to give my subjective take on the players
1. Fc - is the rare combo of very solid piloting with very solid team building, i dont think anyone comes close to him in this pool rn, but its sv ubers so i wouldnt be surprised if he goes 0-8 (im praying he does
2. Icemaster - Ice always locks in during scl, and fsr he just has some innate sense of being ahead of the trends as far as teams go. Solid piloting as well, he has plot armor too
3. Truenora - very very underrated player. probably one of the best builders, who pilots as well as anyone, but he doesnt have that much experience in officials i think. regardless tho he is top quality
4. emoxu9 - very inform up and coming ubers player, im looking forward to how they do.
5. Entro - he would be higher on the list if he wasnt so busy living life away from mons, idk how much effort he will put in, or if he will keep up with the trends and etc. regardless tho top quality player still, the margins are small in this list
6. Kate - kate is a pretty mediocre player but she will grind a team with like 40 test games to learn all the optimal lines, plus she been playing sv uber for years now so she will probably be okay with no tests too, maybe. plus i think they are easily top 3 builders in the meta when she locks in
7. exiline - past experience, nice piloter, kind of a shit builder but can do well if he steals from others
8. Frito - i view frito similar to kate but a worse builder (maybe, im not actually sure about this). regardless tho they had a nice wcop so the momentum is there
9. Scottie - ngl idk why they get drafted for ubers every year, especially when they are 10k, but they had a nice wcop i think so maybe they can do good this time. i dont have high hopes but they are a solid player and its sv ubers so anything can happen
10. Taka - idk i think there were like 10 other better options for a uber starter, i didnt really understand this. but taka is not a bad player, they could surprise me but im not hopeful
ok by popular demand im here to give my subjective take on the players
1. Fc - is the rare combo of very solid piloting with very solid team building, i dont think anyone comes close to him in this pool rn, but its sv ubers so i wouldnt be surprised if he goes 0-8 (im praying he does
2. Icemaster - Ice always locks in during scl, and fsr he just has some innate sense of being ahead of the trends as far as teams go. Solid piloting as well, he has plot armor too
3. Truenora - very very underrated player. probably one of the best builders, who pilots as well as anyone, but he doesnt have that much experience in officials i think. regardless tho he is top quality
4. emoxu9 - very inform up and coming ubers player, im looking forward to how they do.
5. Entro - he would be higher on the list if he wasnt so busy living life away from mons, idk how much effort he will put in, or if he will keep up with the trends and etc. regardless tho top quality player still, the margins are small in this list
6. Kate - kate is a pretty mediocre player but she will grind a team with like 40 test games to learn all the optimal lines, plus she been playing sv uber for years now so she will probably be okay with no tests too, maybe. plus i think they are easily top 3 builders in the meta when she locks in
7. exiline - past experience, nice piloter, kind of a shit builder but can do well if he steals from others
8. Frito - i view frito similar to kate but a worse builder (maybe, im not actually sure about this). regardless tho they had a nice wcop so the momentum is there
9. Scottie - ngl idk why they get drafted for ubers every year, especially when they are 10k, but they had a nice wcop i think so maybe they can do good this time. i dont have high hopes but they are a solid player and its sv ubers so anything can happen
10. Taka - idk i think there were like 10 other better options for a uber starter, i didnt really understand this. but taka is not a bad player, they could surprise me but im not hopeful
Tried to finish this up before the first week 2 game started, enjoy.
Week 1 Recap
Back like I never left covering SCL like I did last year but with a lot less senseless writing and focusing on the more impactful parts of the game.
A very predictable structure from Scottie vs a strong offensive team from emoxu. Emoxu came into the game playing aggressive rather early as he meteor beamed into activating tera turn 2 with his etern, rewarding him, getting rid of a defensive anchor in fairyceus very quickly. The etern is phased out by the ho-oh and in comes don as Scottie switches into glisc scared of the bird being stoned to death, but emoxu is quick on his feet, predicts the switch and clicks SD, heatcrashing the glisc to oblivion. Scottie brings in his ditto to counter the opposing don as emoxu was well prepared and brought out his dusk-mane, revealing air balloon, locking scottie into eq and safely being allowed to DD and clearing out the rest of the team. This is the definition of good prep, Scottie is renown for using balances/bo and doesn't shy away from that at all, but there's only so much those structures can do before you run into players who can exploit your tendencies. I do feel Scottie can bounce back in future weeks but he has to build out of his comfort zone, otherwise, it's not looking too good.
A game of misfortune from the eyes of a blind man. The beginning ensues with cm wars which leads to the likely outcome, an eventual crit, and for fc, this happened sooner than expected, and it wasn't in his favor. It was unlucky to happen, but bound to, which only lead to the waterceus dying the next turn anyway. As the game goes on, Fc finally get's some justice as a burn on the dusk-mane comes from the eterns flamethrower, getting him back in the game. Fade makes a bold move on the Ho-Oh recover and clicks SD into getting 5 scale shots with LO korai, securing him the game. Circling back to the first sentence, the 5 scales didn't matter, it just won jon the game faster, how you ask? That's not up to me to reveal.
Two standard looking six from both sides. Nora gains some early momentum by twaving the korai early in exchange for ogre getting hit with a Ip Man special. Nora get's a spike up with don down the road as groundceus comes in to judgment the don to low hp as it goes for wisp. Nora brings in fairyceus to cm as the groundceus can not win that 1v1 forcing exiline to go into ho-oh and phase it out. Exiline eventually brings in his ndm to dd as nora goes into his gambit, revealing balloon, something the ndm can not touch, forcing it out. 44 turns of slow burn ensues as exiline slowly loses his mons to damage + 2 stacks of spikes, dropping the korai with precipice. He decides to go into his ogre as nora sacs his fairyceus to beam, bringing in his own ogre clicking twave with no issue as etern comes in. The etern gets para'd and dies to beam. Nora bring's out his korai and clicks sd, wildcharging the ho-oh, switching out on the incoming scarf ogre into don and dodges origin pulse, doubling back into korai and clicking CC on the ogre, winning the game. It seems Fc didn't update the samples in time and cost Exiline a victory.
Mag + hatt trick room from Frito and a dual primal balance from Kate. Kate leads with don right away to get hazards up as Frito leads with dawn-wings and switches into hatt to counter that. Kate predicts the hatt switch and gets a crit with eq on the hatt, forcing frito to go into waterceus as that is their only "ground resist" or safe option to tank eq. She switches into hatt and dodges eq after setting up TR with waterceus. Kate goes for spikes twice on the hatt in an attempt to predict that Frito would switch but to no avail, she doesn't and clicks psynoise to chip down one of the many threats to her team. Kate goes into ogre and gets a para via thunder on the waterceus, paralyzing it same turn, rendering it useless. Frito goes into mag to set up tr and misty explosions to get some chip on the ogre as Kate expects it and switches into don for the sac. At this point, NDW + band caly is not enough to come back and win so Kate solidified the win as nothing can set up TR.
Using TR is like shooting dice, you do a come out roll, hope for the 7 or 11 but you actually throw a 2, 3, or 12 and you end up losing it all. TR is very make or break; high risk, low reward but when it gets the right matchup, it's beautiful, the odds of that is 5%. This is the second person I've seen use TR vs Kate and lost, I don't know what specifics brings people to use TR vs her but it isn't working, for the foreseeable future, pls leave it alone vs Kate.
Two SCL returners face off using two formidable offenses. Entro with a similar six that I made for jon last SCL against surprisingly, the same opponent, difference is, WE LOST. Our game last year had some mid-game mistakes but that's what happens, it's easier to spectate and act like you're in that position than actually being there and playing the game. Anyway, the game starts off with the two obvious leads in glimm and deo-s and this specific exchange depends solely on what moves the deo-s is running, fortunately entro had t-wave and could bank on paralyzing the glimm while setting up spikes and going into zac-c and spinblocking. Entro subs up on glimm switch clicking sd putting the ndm in range of a 2hko from behemoth. NDM's eq put's zac in range to be killed by ekiller forcing entro to sac the deo-s, going into korai and clicking scale for free as ice sacs ndm, bringing ekiller back in to revenge kill the korai. A repeat of the sequence occurs but this time, zac-c is the sac over deo-s and lunala is the sac over ndm, but a slight change occurs, korai stays in and dies to espeed, allowing entro to agility with his lunala, trade with the korai since it has to blitz and he wins the game with dd groundceus.
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