Draft Autumn Seasonal 2025 - Round 3

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Activity win request vs GavX.
Hasn't responded (or been online) since I've written on their wall.
 
HaunterBoy28 said:
Calling act, my opponents scheduling hasn't been definitive (proof on wall) and their responses have been too sporadic; weren't around for the time I offered and instead requested an extension (which I cannot d
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Contesting Opponent's Activity Request

The "proof on wall" my opponent refers to is attached below for reference. Please refer to it as you read my argument.

I do not believe my opponent has decisive evidence supporting the notion that they should receive an activity win over me. I have notified my opponent that I will be around to play still, but in the unfortunate case that this becomes decided by a Judge, I believe this issue should be resolve with, at best, a coinflip and, at worst, a double loss. My opponent bases their request on the following three claims: (1) that my scheduling hasn't been definitive, (2) that my response have been too sporadic and (3) that I was not around for the time requested. I will address each claim below. Keep in mind as you read that I am not arguing for an activity win over my opponent, but rather that they have not decisively shown that they deserve one over me.

1. Indefinite Scheduling

My opponent claims that my scheduling has not been definitive, but neither has theirs. For my opponent to claim that their scheduling was definitive, in contrary to mine, then it would have to be consistent and decisive. However, that was not the case here. Their original scheduling message suggests that they cannot play in the week and would prefer any time from 2pm to 11pm +1 on the weekend, specifically requesting Sunday. However, this "definitive" time was then changed to 12pm +1 which is 7am for me since we have a 5 hour difference, something which my opponent knew because I stated my time zone at the start of scheduling. There is nothing definitive about requesting the weekend and then, on the weekend, changing their requested time to a time they know I would not be awake for based on our time zone difference. Moreover, my scheduling was in response to my opponent's given times, so any apparent "lack of definitive scheduling" on my responses would be a reflection of their inconsistent and indefinite times given.

2. Sporadic Responses

My opponent claims that my responses are too sporadic, yet if you refer to the time stamps you will see that their responses are exactly the same. I sent my first scheduling request on Monday and my opponent responded on Wednesday, leaving a 1-day gap. Next, I responded to that message on Friday, leaving a 1-day gap. As you can see, we have an exactly similar "sporadic" responses. However, I will add that, given that my opponent requested the weekend (specifically Sunday), there was not much urgency from my part to respond before Friday. On the other hand, if my opponent suddenly realized that their original time in the weekend was no longer possible, there is a far greater urgency to communicate that before the weekend so I am aware and can timely respond to such a twist. From my perspective, since I would be unavailable on Saturday, but my opponent was already specifically requesting Sunday at a time I could meet, there was less urgency in my mind to respond. A reasonable person would not expect their opponent to specifically request Sunday and suddenly change their available time on Sunday to 7am my time. If anything, that was the most sporadic part of any of this.

3. Not Around for Time Requested

As mentioned already, it is dishonest to claim that I was not around for the requested time when my opponent themselves changed their requested time the day before. It is unfair to specifically request to play on Sunday and then, once the week has past, suddenly change their mind the day before. That leaves very little room for solutions when we are 5 hours apart in time, something which I made clear at the start of scheduling. Yet, not only did my opponent specifically request Sunday from 2pm- 11pm only to change their mind the day before, but they also changed their available time to 12pm +1 which is 7am for me. How can I be expected to be around for the time requested when they changed that time the day before to a time they KNOW I won't be around for based on our time zone difference.


Again, I am not asking for an activity win over my opponent, I am merely explaining that they have not shown that they decisively deserve one. All of their claims are equally applicable to both of us. If there is any conclusion to be had here, is that we both should've communicated better. Therefore I ask that, if an extension is not possible, that the match unfortunately is at least decided by coinflip or given a double loss. It would leave a bad taste in my mouth if my opponent were rewarded for requesting Sunday early in the week and then changing their mind the day before to a time where I was asleep to then claim an activity win.

Apologies for the long post.

(Editing to point out that before even writing this Contest post, I left a message in my opponent's wall explaining how I would contest their act win request, but I would still be around to play if they had any issue with that. I wrote that message while there were still 2 hours and 30 minutes left on the original time my opponent requested. Now, almost 2 hours later, my opponent is responding to my post despite claiming that they could not play at this time (originally requested by them) anymore. I find it even more dishonest that, instead of responding to my message letting them know I am still available to play if they have a problem with me contesting their act win request, they ignored it and came here (at a time they said they wouldn't be able to play) to argue further.

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Activity Win Request - My opponent hasn't logged in all day. Here is the set time we agreed to meet (though he accidentally replied to a different user on my profile).
 

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Pioji_2 said:
Contesting Opponent's Activity Request

The "proof on wall" my opponent refers to is attached below for reference. Please refer to it as you read my argument.

I do not believe my opponent has decisive evidence supporting the notion that they should receive an activity win over me. I have notified my opponent that I will be around to play still, but in the unfortunate case that this becomes decided by a Judge, I believe this issue should be resolve with, at best, a coinflip and, at worst, a double loss. My opponent bases their request on the following three claims: (1) that my scheduling hasn't been definitive, (2) that my response have been too sporadic and (3) that I was not around for the time requested. I will address each claim below. Keep in mind as you read that I am not arguing for an activity win over my opponent, but rather that they have not decisively shown that they deserve one over me.

1. Indefinite Scheduling

My opponent claims that my scheduling has not been definitive, but neither has theirs. For my opponent to claim that their scheduling was definitive, in contrary to mine, then it would have to be consistent and decisive. However, that was not the case here. Their original scheduling message suggests that they cannot play in the week and would prefer any time from 2pm to 11pm +1 on the weekend, specifically requesting Sunday. However, this "definitive" time was then changed to 12pm +1 which is 7am for me since we have a 5 hour difference, something which my opponent knew because I stated my time zone at the start of scheduling. There is nothing definitive about requesting the weekend and then, on the weekend, changing their requested time to a time they know I would not be awake for based on our time zone difference. Moreover, my scheduling was in response to my opponent's given times, so any apparent "lack of definitive scheduling" on my responses would be a reflection of their inconsistent and indefinite times given.

2. Sporadic Responses

My opponent claims that my responses are too sporadic, yet if you refer to the time stamps you will see that their responses are exactly the same. I sent my first scheduling request on Monday and my opponent responded on Wednesday, leaving a 1-day gap. Next, I responded to that message on Friday, leaving a 1-day gap. As you can see, we have an exactly similar "sporadic" responses. However, I will add that, given that my opponent requested the weekend (specifically Sunday), there was not much urgency from my part to respond before Friday. On the other hand, if my opponent suddenly realized that their original time in the weekend was no longer possible, there is a far greater urgency to communicate that before the weekend so I am aware and can timely respond to such a twist. From my perspective, since I would be unavailable on Saturday, but my opponent was already specifically requesting Sunday at a time I could meet, there was less urgency in my mind to respond. A reasonable person would not expect their opponent to specifically request Sunday and suddenly change their available time on Sunday to 7am my time. If anything, that was the most sporadic part of any of this.

3. Not Around for Time Requested

As mentioned already, it is dishonest to claim that I was not around for the requested time when my opponent themselves changed their requested time the day before. It is unfair to specifically request to play on Sunday and then, once the week has past, suddenly change their mind the day before. That leaves very little room for solutions when we are 5 hours apart in time, something which I made clear at the start of scheduling. Yet, not only did my opponent specifically request Sunday from 2pm- 11pm only to change their mind the day before, but they also changed their available time to 12pm +1 which is 7am for me. How can I be expected to be around for the time requested when they changed that time the day before to a time they KNOW I won't be around for based on our time zone difference.


Again, I am not asking for an activity win over my opponent, I am merely explaining that they have not shown that they decisively deserve one. All of their claims are equally applicable to both of us. If there is any conclusion to be had here, is that we both should've communicated better. Therefore I ask that, if an extension is not possible, that the match unfortunately is at least decided by coinflip or given a double loss. It would leave a bad taste in my mouth if my opponent were rewarded for requesting Sunday early in the week and then changing their mind the day before to a time where I was asleep to then claim an activity win.

Apologies for the long post.


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i was in uni monday until wednesday morning at which time i responded with a bracket wherein i believed i could play any hour within, being 40hr after my opponents message on my wall. it took them a further 60HR !! to respond to that message with the very end time of my (then defunct) bracket and zero wiggle-room. i then offer a time that actually works for me in response just 11hr later and then a further 30HR !! goes by with simply a confirmation of their tz (which is pointless since i already knew) and an extension req in an extensionless tour. however well-written my opponent's post may be, i do not believe my act call is unjust or in bad faith since i was very clearly the more efficient responder even with being to and fro my uni and my home during my first week with tech issues withal. my view is that my opponent simply doesn't deserve win for flaky scheduling, however i do take a portion of the onus for not being explicit in a timeframe that i had minimal control over
 
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Not the tidiest of scheduling for sure, but we did have a time. I've been waiting for 30 mins and I have to sleep soon for work in the morning. If opp can catch me before I crash into bed, I'm happy to play but I can't wait much longer.
 
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HaunterBoy28 said:
i was in uni monday until wednesday morning at which time i responded with a bracket wherein i believed i could play any hour within, being 40hr after my opponents message on my wall. it took them a further 60HR !! to respond to that message with the very end time of my (then defunct) bracket and zero wiggle-room. i then offer a time that actually works for me in response just 11hr later and then a further 30HR !! goes by with simply a confirmation of their tz (which is pointless since i already knew) and an extension req in an extensionless tour. however well-written my opponent's post may be, i do not believe my act call is unjust or in bad faith since i was very clearly the more efficient responder even with being to and fro my uni and my home during my first week with tech issues withal. my view is that my opponent simply doesn't deserve win for flaky scheduling, however i do take a portion of the onus for not being explicit in a timeframe that i had minimal control over
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dgaf lil bro, play ball
 
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