Other 1v1 Tournament Policy Discussion Thread

Potatochan said:
I agree with Eli that there should be some onus on regions to get enough signups to field their own roster. I’d love to see for next WC we just set the regions in stone and if you cant field a roster, you dont play the tour. My only concern with this is how we handle an odd number of teams. Regardless of what we decide to do, it seems pretty clear that this arbitrary merging of teams based on signups has led to superteams time and time again, and quite frankly it goes against the spirit of WC.
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Theoretically, let’s say we do unmerge the teams, and if you can’t get enough people you don’t play, I. not opposed to the idea and i’ve seen enough on this thread saying that WC is less serious than PL, and how there should a tour that is somewhat serious that could be open to new 1v1 players. This in a way should be less gatekeeping towards newer players and to not have ourselves a super team simulator.

I know jad opened the idea to have play ins but i people were against it due to it dragging out the tour even longer but I really don’t see an issue with it otherwise if wc takes a direction like this.

As the aforementioned point about not playing if you don’t have enough players, this could be a way for people to go scout out new blood instead of ONLY relying on your top tier/mid tier guys to sign up.


If we’re really bringing up the propaganda of wc being a not so serious tour compared to pl because of shit like west + central merge before sign ups closed (mfs like zio and blurb would not sign up otherwise) and how mfs like to play all their games at the last minute (i could go on but you get the point) we should just embrace wc just being a “new blood” tt or just structure wc a lot differently going forward.

i wrote this in the shower btw
 
So obviously this tour has been mismanaged to a beyond egregious degree. To recap the grievances:
  • Unanimous vocal support for Bo7 from the established ss playerbase (people who care about their player experience and the meta they play) unfavored over input from the captains (people who are seeking to maximize their chances of winning the tour).
  • Conflicting region info which lead to a player who expected to be on the roster of one region to actually be a part of another that they don’t make the cut for.
  • Signups going up late but also before slots were finalized, with no sort of accompanying announcement.
  • General lack of transparency on who was involved with making decisions for this tour and how they were made. It seems to be the case that luser, the host of the tour and receiver of the most flac, was kept out of the loop of region discussions/other key decisions while lost heros, who is playing in the tour, was involved(??)
  • And of course, regions getting announced before signup close leading to the creation of a team with, at the very least, more star power than any other team in the tiers history.
Roster posts have already been made and doing anything to the regions at this stage is a non-starter (the tour would probably need to be pushed back a week after a region redraw and then either a team needs to be Deleted or +1 more week for a play-in).

At this point there is nothing that can be done that won’t leave a participant upset and feeling like this tour was not a worthwhile experience. That is simply the reality of the situation. What we can do is:

1. Continue the show
2. Cancel the tour and there probably won't be another teamtour until next year

Option 2 is honestly probably better from the POV of unbiased arbiter but I dunno like, personally I just want to play at this point? Is that so bad? We have like 4 teams with a 15-30% chance of beating westrel in a playoffs scenario and the potential reward of infinite clowning on B-tier players/C-tier ragebaiters like Blanched. No one will ever take a west-central win seriously either. Sounds like a pretty good cost-benefit ratio to me.
 
Potatochan said:
I think cancelling the tour is a pretty preposterous idea. I don't really have anything else to say, this second sentence is just here so my post doesn't get deleted for being a one-liner.
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no it is not unless they revamp the tour entirely or just replace it with something else, former would be good. 1-2 months of prep time for a tour like this is MAYBE feasible but the faith of the tour usually depends on how much people wanna win the tour and based on how this tour has gone by over the past few years, it isn’t too asinine in my eyes
 
okay so i also wanted to speak a bit about these superteams that are incredibly unfair like US West+ Central alone could sweep WC and win easily on top of that you have Team Europe with a bit less stacked team but still being able to win it all with their depth there are no other team that can possibly compete team parity between 2nd and 3rd is too big honestly and Europe and West+ Central should be seperated you cant tell me that the best from South Europe and North Europe and same with west and central are not the overwhelming favorites mistakes should be fixed and this is the biggest one by far... I agree with SuperMemeBroz with his takes, also remember that WC isn't PL, where even if there is a superteam, there is less parity, therefore let's look at this from a competitive standpoint.
 
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