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Natdex Ubers II - Round 2

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The Draft League subforum is launching it's next tournament, NatDex Ubers II! Each tournament ran this year will be a part of the 2025 Draft League Circuit and will provide points toward this year's Draft League Championship. This tournament is a Type C tournament and will be hosted by abriel and theuncultured. This tournament will take place in the [Gen 9] NatDex Draft tier on Pokémon Showdown! and battles will take place in pools followed by a single elimination bracket.

The following spoilers will cover signup information and rules for the tournament.
Tournament sizes are dependent on number of total valid signups (individuals who signup, join the Discord server and are verified in ⁠the Discord #verification channel). The first 62.5% of competitors that signup are guaranteed entry, while the remaining 37.5% are randomly chosen from the remaining player pool.
Example: 350 players signup, leading to a 320 person tour. The first 219 signups are guaranteed to be in the tour and the remaining 101 spots are randomly picked from the 131 remaining signups. Substitutes are picked on a first come first serve basis from the remaining signups. Once signups are sorted, the tour will follow the structure.

  1. Players will be placed in draft pools sorted by their time zones. They will be tagged in ⁠announcements when the draft begins, along with the sheet for their draft pool. It's advised to read the pinned message in your pool chat to further understand rules specific to the draft (as well as the Draft Rules and Battle Rules sections of this post for bans). Lying about your timezone during drafting is prohibited. Any player found to be trying to game timezone based drafting pools to get a more favorable draft pool will face punitive action. If a different timezone is better suited towards your current situation, please reach out to the hosts to notify them.
  2. Once the draft ends, the hosts will release the round 1 matchups via Smogon. These will be posted to the Discord in ⁠announcements. Each round, with the exception of battle pools, will always last one week. Battle pools will last two.
  • Draft pools will consist of 10 people per pool.
  • You have up to 200 points with which to draft 10 to 12 Pokémon. Costs are listed on your pool’s tab on the drafting spreadsheet.
  • If a Pokémon is picked by someone else, you may not pick it.
  • You may not draft more than one mega evolution.
  • For the first round, there is a 12 hour timer. After the first round ends, there will be a continuous 6 hour timer within which you must pick, or you will be skipped, and will be required to make-up your pick when you are next online. All timers are off between 10pm-7am local time (check your pools pinned message for local time).
  • Your timer will halve every time you are skipped. It is recommended to leave picks (with backups) with your pool moderator to avoid this.
    The following complex bans are in place:
    • :xerneas: Xerneas may not use the move Geomancy
    • No Pokémon may use the move Hidden Power
    • No Pokémon may use the move Revival Blessing
    • No Pokémon may use the move Shed Tail
    • No Pokémon may use the move Last Respects
    • No Pokémon may use the abilities Arena Trap, Shadow Tag and Magnet Pull
  • The following Pokémon have access to all of their forms (although you may only bring up to 1 to each battle):
    • :tauros-paldea-aqua: Paldean Tauros :tauros-paldea-blaze:
    • :dialga: Dialga :dialga-origin:
    • :palkia: Palkia :palkia-origin:
    • :giratina: Giratina :giratina-origin:
    • :basculin-blue-striped: Basculin :basculin:
    • :meowstic-f: Meowstic :meowstic:
    • :oricorio: Oricorio :oricorio-sensu:
    • :toxtricity: Toxtricity :toxtricity-low-key:
    • :indeedee-f: Indeedee :indeedee:
    • :zamazenta: Zamazenta :zamazenta-crowned:
    • :basculegion: Basculegion :basculegion-f:
    • :oinkologne: Oinkologne :oinkologne-f:
    • :maushold: Maushold :maushold-four:
    • :squawkabilly: Squawkabilly :squawkabilly-blue:
    • :tatsugiri: Tatsugiri :tatsugiri-droopy:
    • :dudunsparce: Dudunsparce :dudunsparce-three-segment:
    • :ogerpon-wellspring: Ogerpon :ogerpon-hearthflame:
  • If a Pokémon that is available in NatDex is untiered, please ask a host.
  • Smogon’s Species Clause applies to your draft.
  • All games must be played in the [Gen 9] NatDex Draft tier on smogtours.psim.us or psim.us. Be aware that each game on smogtours starts a timer automatically and cannot be turned off.
  • General tournament rules and regulations can be found here.
  • SV cartridge win conditions are in place; there are no ties.
  • Z-Moves, Dynamax, Gigantamax and Terastallisation are all banned.
  • Each set is a best-of-one set.
  • The following clauses apply:
    • Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokémon with the same National Pokédex number on a team.
    • Sleep Clause: If a player has already put a Pokémon on their opponent's side to sleep and it is still sleeping, another one can't be put to sleep.
    • Evasion Clause: A Pokémon may not hold an item, use a move or possess an ability that can increase their evasion stat
    • OHKO Clause: A Pokémon may not have the moves Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, or Sheer Cold in its moveset.
    • Moody Clause: A team cannot have a Pokémon with the ability Moody.
    • Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot intentionally prevent an opponent from being able to end the game without forfeiting.
    • Baton Pass Clause: A Pokémon may not have Baton Pass in its moveset.
  • Berserk Gene, Quick Claw, King's Rock, Razor Fang and all gems (with the exception of Normal Gem) are banned.
  • Players must win 2 games within their battle pool to advance on to the next phase.
  • Any items unreleased in SV are banned.
  • Replays must be posted to the pool/round thread, please mention the result, your opponent's name and your pool number.
About Activity Decisions

Activity Decisions / Coin Flips: In the event that there is an uncompleted match at the deadline, and an extension has not been requested, it will be coin flipped unless one or both of the players involved in the match specifically request an activity win and explain sufficiently why they deserve to win over their opponent. Attempting to schedule a battle is required in order to receive the win by activity. To make it clear that you are requesting an activity win when you post, you must open your post with "Activity Win Request" in bold.

For example, if you believe your opponent is making an unfair request and that they don't deserve the activity win over you, you can either make your own request or quote their post and explain why they don't deserve it. You should try to make your activity win request posts at least 24 hours before the deadline to give your opponent a reasonable opportunity to contest it with their own activity win request.

Please note that all extension requests and activity claims must be posted to the thread, and that all of these will be judged on a case by case basis.

[Credit to the Official Smogon Tournament hosting team for the base form of this rule.]
Contact your opponent as soon as possible upon the round going up. Activity cases are going to be handled in a very strict manner.
When scheduling, offer as wide a swathe of time when you are available to play. 1 hour of activity on one or two weeknights is unlikely to be considered acceptable.
Schedule specifically - do not schedule for "Friday afternoon" or "Sunday morning", pick a date, a time and note the time zone, ideally as GMT offset.
If hosts catches news of ghosting or some other sort of nefarious play, we reserve the right to investigate to the full limits of our ability.

Matchup Doc (coming soon)

EmperorAry  vs  E Man
takuaa  vs  sylvea
PikachuRTM  vs  8truc
Ninja Mob  vs  Alefu
hgc1110  vs  pinkes
TwentyTwan  vs  benjaboynl
bobbiswas  vs  thunderbug
Stefaan  vs  CoolEvan1098
TheGrandAdmiral  vs  Azcelerator
Truthankamon  vs  lolmy
HayesL  vs  SouthernCavern
choptch  vs  Shmur
karrottensirup  vs  guigaxs2000
soultecH  vs  2playaLuffy
vmnunes  vs  Blind Messiah
burstslinky  vs  impersonxtor
Skyhops  vs  Ollitoed
Lizardu  vs  Lux2821
ButterCHOKE  vs  Babyhuey
Kizuhime  vs  jaymens_
Zygarde12  vs  Vazquez 2.0
Donnel  vs  Celeste
Mister McLovin  vs  SpouseOwner69
Puckbud  vs  GOATED im_m0rtal.
Nametab  vs  Scarcity2K
MK29  vs  DJS
Musa Sensei  vs  DriteWhake
Mysterious Player  vs  Fc
Tsuki  vs  watashi
Firechicken1  vs  mipc
64 Squares  vs  Nurul
cactusway  vs  Bibleman9
MizuriKip  vs  Arcaninebr 2.0
Glop  vs  NateAim
xGinesect  vs  Maxomega
Ryueen vs catast

100 players advanced to this phase of the tournament, so 28 players receive byes, randomly decided from the players who went 3-0 in pools.
  1. ZebstrikemDown
  2. DiamondScyther
  3. EviGaro
  4. Paying Attenton
  5. AgencyIsOwn
  6. DiAlpen
  7. Fierce Flamethrower
  8. Clb7
  9. Aberforth
  10. Meta
  11. ultraplayer
  12. Princess Autumn
  13. yerdunc
  14. jecotto03
  15. ThinkingSceptile
  16. Sibwind
  17. LastAgainXander
  18. Mok3s
  19. thebeardydragon
  20. DaSpoofy
  21. gengariza
  22. DonMarto
  23. Lucas2543
  24. IMCOOKiNG
  25. An Agent of Chaos
  26. Edentical
  27. VoidOfDarknesss
  28. Iride
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The deadline for battles is 11:59 PM GMT-4 on Sunday October 5th.

This thread and all future NatDex Ubers II threads should be considered the final ruling in case of discrepancy between threads, Discord announcements, and Google spreadsheets. Contact a host if you have any questions or spot an error. We are human, after all.
 
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