After a whole week of countless alts and frustrating losses to the low ladder demons, i FINALLY got reqs.
With that being said, I am voting BAN on Heat Rock. This item being suspected before Volcarona or Heartflame caught my attention, because I originally thought that the general consensus was that fire was inconsistent but strong type that doesn’t necessary always need sun to function (Ethereal Sword showing good reason why) but that 8 turns of sun is a sweet spot that enables the previously mentioned to end games like that. Through reading this discussion forum and from talking to many players throughout the tier, my opinion became quite erratic, as multiple viewpoints began to shape how i viewed not only the item, but Ninetales as a setter aswell. HWish is a move that I think fire abuses without a doubt the best, having 3 (Usually) sun boosted sweepers to return and potentially end the game again. Removing 8 sun turn effectively nerfs not only these big sweepers/breakers, but also the presence of Ninetales and its HWish enabling. I think this is a healthy change the tier needs because it keeps fire at bay, while also still allowing it to utilize key Pokémon well.
Shout outs to adjustments for rooting for me, kiru for being the best, Irys for the amazing band scor team that carried the HELL out of me to finally get reqs, and Wincon for Oricorio.
With that being said, I am voting BAN on Heat Rock. This item being suspected before Volcarona or Heartflame caught my attention, because I originally thought that the general consensus was that fire was inconsistent but strong type that doesn’t necessary always need sun to function (Ethereal Sword showing good reason why) but that 8 turns of sun is a sweet spot that enables the previously mentioned to end games like that. Through reading this discussion forum and from talking to many players throughout the tier, my opinion became quite erratic, as multiple viewpoints began to shape how i viewed not only the item, but Ninetales as a setter aswell. HWish is a move that I think fire abuses without a doubt the best, having 3 (Usually) sun boosted sweepers to return and potentially end the game again. Removing 8 sun turn effectively nerfs not only these big sweepers/breakers, but also the presence of Ninetales and its HWish enabling. I think this is a healthy change the tier needs because it keeps fire at bay, while also still allowing it to utilize key Pokémon well.
Shout outs to adjustments for rooting for me, kiru for being the best, Irys for the amazing band scor team that carried the HELL out of me to finally get reqs, and Wincon for Oricorio.
