Forre Offgon Zard - By Johnald
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I wanted to build a spikes balance with Flygon.
Here is a quick list of Flygon trait's that I was thinking about during building:
can be doubled in on Skarmory entries. Setting up layers or spin 50/50s with suittar.
traps Gengar for both flygon and forre. Sets up the sand for flygon's damage to stick.
Next I wanted to look at bulky water options, something that can reliably pivot into focus punch tar and fire moves threatening Forre. was the obvious choice:
Potential weaknesses that stood out:
Why was considered:
was considered:
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I wanted to build a spikes balance with Flygon.
Here is a quick list of Flygon trait's that I was thinking about during building:
- The only ground immune rock resist with neutrality to bug makes it good at switching into DD tar
- Physical focus punch variants need to be handled by another mon
- Special tar needs to be handled by another mon asw
- Unlike Swampert, Flygon does not resists steel
- Metagross needs to be handled by another mon
- Needs help pressuring skarmory
- Fire coverage can be used but is unreliable to hit multiple fire blasts on Skarm. Flamethrower too weak without investment.
- Knock off / Thief?
- Forretress?
- Flygon is a Gengar entry point
- The team will need a good Gengar pivot or pursuit support
- Flygon's spike immunity decreased the necessity of needing rapid spin
- Rapid spin can be dropped altogether or thought of as a bonus
can be doubled in on Skarmory entries. Setting up layers or spin 50/50s with suittar. traps Gengar for both flygon and forre. Sets up the sand for flygon's damage to stick.Next I wanted to look at bulky water options, something that can reliably pivot into focus punch tar and fire moves threatening Forre.
was the obvious choice:- Recover loops BKC tar, while flygon handles the Dragon dance sets
- Maybe the best response to fire type attackers in the tier?
- Solid mixed attacker sponge
- Handles most swampert sets
- Can answer metagross in a pinch, but shouldnt due to other defensive obligations
Potential weaknesses that stood out:
- CM Celebi pressure was lacking
- Aerodactyl looks threatening if I chose to run offensive flygon
- Can struggle to pivot into special attacks
- I need a fast revenge killer that can answer dugtrio, metagross, and cm jirachi
Why
was considered:- Offensively checks celebi, metagross, dugtrio etc
- Can pivot into metagross once
- Can pivot in on a skarmory setting up layers or using protect
- Unlike moltres can threaten blissey without layers being established
was considered:- Great special pivot
- Struggles vs fires but we have a milotic
- Struggles vs gengar but we have suittar
- Unlike blissey allows Charizard to run beat up
- Good Aero insurance since I'm choosing to run offensive flygon
- Tyranitar needs brick break lasts to help pressure blissey under spikes, therefore Charizard needs to be our phazer
- Charizard using flamethower, hp grass, roar, and beat up can struggle to do enough damage. Intentionally running a -def nature and 22 defense IVs guarantees blaze after a CB meteor mash
- Flygons last move is screech to deal with rest suicune
- Registeel is counter to OHKO dugtrio also helps check metagross/snorlax better
- Both registeel and tyrantiar are invested to outspeed blissey and defensive swampert