I couldn't agree with you more
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Pet Mod Legends Z-A OU
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Well what if it gets trick room setting ability?
usage stats!
Can we PLEASE get rid of regenerator on Mega Golisopod? The other three regen megas are pretty balanced, but this thing literally does not die. 75/175/120 bulk is morbidly crazy, and with 150 attack it's no pushover either.
I've been playing the tier for like a week at this point, and got to around ~1650. This is the most obvious problem with the petmod rn.
Just give it something realistic because its absolutely insane rn.
I've been playing the tier for like a week at this point, and got to around ~1650. This is the most obvious problem with the petmod rn.
Just give it something realistic because its absolutely insane rn.
I propose giving it Guard Dog. It mechanically completes the Golisopod line the best, and provides a bonus anti-intimidate mechanic too.
Mega Golisopod has comparable physical bulk to Mega Slowbro, but with significantly better special bulk and even higher Atk.
252 Atk Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound Psychic Fangs vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Slowbro-Mega: 72-86 (18.2 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound Psychic Fangs vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golisopod-Mega: 75-88 (21.1 - 24.8%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa-Unbound Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Golisopod: 115-136 (32.4 - 38.4%) -- 98.5% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hoopa-Unbound Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowbro-Mega: 162-191 (41.1 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Guard Pod
I think Pod benefits from a defensive/offensive role. I agree that regen is absurd, truly. Although I can't think of another ability that would not immediately butcher it. Tough Claws helps, although that's basic. Guard Dog is cool, although how many intimidate users are there in this tier?
maybe shell/battle armor? it'd encourage more setup builds and with crit immunity you're not digging it out when it gets a few IDs up. not to mention leech life for recovery, and if you wanna get REALLY stupid then rain dance to make its fire quad weakness a bit more manageable.
I honestly think mega golisopod will get heatproof. Idk if it would be ok or not but that's my prediction
We have Gyarados, Overqwil, Pre Mega Staraptor, and Pre Mega Mawile.
Guard Dog also prevents Dragon Tail from switching you out. So you can easily prevent Garchomp from shuffling your Pokemon and racking up hazard damage. Or phasing you if you decide to use Bulk Up or Sword Dance.
Maybe with wish pass it could still be a viable wall. May be worth trying, honestly.
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Team Dump + Thoughts on the meta
M-Magearna HO:
Cookie Cutter HO. I really like glimm lead since it gets access to memento which can be used to force setup opportunities for mega magearna or any of the other setup mons on this team. I built this team with mega magearna in mind although realistically you can put any other setup mega in this spot and it will probably do the same thing tbh. The speed tiers in this tier are extremely unforgiving, Scarf Gholdengo is barely slower than the 151 speed megas, and therefore this team is very reliant on rking these mons with prio or keeping dnite healthy.
M-Heatran BO:
First saw this 6 on ladder and trial and errored the sets to get this team. Used this team to win a legends-za tour by pokeaimmd, so its def solid. M-Heatran is super consistant as a stallbreaker and spdef wall, stops you losing to most CM spammers barring keld & milo. M-Heatran also walls many DD/physical dnite variants and garchomps and can often trap and kill these mons if they come in attempting to tank magma. Parting shot rotom is a really nice tech lets you get band ttar in very easily. scarf genesect is great anti offense. Wish clef is a great glue which makes m-heatran very diffciult to remove. Band ttar is fun af, probably should have pursuit on the set somewhere (maybe over low kick) but set is strong as is.
M-scovillain pivot spam:
This team started off as a joke team, but i kept refining it and i think its actually really solid into current meta rn. M-scovillain coverage matches up surprisingly well into basically all of the defensive pivots/walls in this tier. It is extremely easy to get free subs vs mons you force out wich allows you to get free leech seeds on whatever switches in. Scovilliains low HP means that you end up healing back a lot of HP with giga drain and leech seed so you can easily spam subsitutes. Overheat is a solid nuke + setup move which lets you gain more healing back from giga. This set is heavily inspiried by the sub glare serp sets which are popular in gen 9 & 7, and works very well with twave support from mag. Tbf tho the core of this team is extremely strong and scovillain could be replaced out for a more viable mega if wanted
Thoughts on the meta
mega
Decent breaker with anti offense potential, does not really feel broken especially with corv, skarm, slowbro & clef exisiting. Feels like the mon really requires boots, rocks are very prevalent and gholdengo/annihilape are great blockers. Mega baxcalibur feels utterly underwhelming, it feels like regular bax with an item just outmatches it, the extra bulk doesnt mean much when you are losing 1/4 of ur hp just for coming in, often leaving you in range of a vacuum wave after you are finished setting up.
Guessing you watched the video too?
Grapploct got moves that it should've had in the first place, with stuff like Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Storm Throw, and Knock Off
What video?
Finally smh
This is so horrible for the tier..... Sure Genesect may have been powerful, but it was a necessary evil, keeping so many mindless offensive threats like Baxcalibur, Greninja, Darkrai, Mega Lucario Z, Mega Garchomp Z, Mega Mewostic, and so much more in check with its Scarf / Band sets - bringing much needed stability in the tier...
Mark my words - with Genesect gone, we are about to see mindless offensive teams take over like we have never seen before & I am expecting 10 - 20 additional bans to take place. Perhaps Pokemon like Scizor, Keldeo, and Tyranitar can rise up and keep the aforementioned pokemon in line, but will they be enough? Only time will tell......
If we needed genesect to hold off certain offensive Pokémon and now they’re supposedly gonna run amok without it, then they’re likely broken regardless. Genesect had so little consistent counter play and what little existed was easily rolled by u-turn+spikes or was very niche and hard to fit. It put a big strain on team building to prepare for and we’re better off without it.
Regarding the aforementioned Pokémon… Bax still has counter play? Melmetal and Mega Heatran are robust answers to it while scarfers like Latios and Keldeo are able to revenge kill it. There’s softer checks like bulky scizor and air balloon gholdengo if you’re that pressed. It could easily become a problem anyways (it’s bax after all), but let’s not act like there’s nothing there. Greninja I straight haven’t seen for a while and both of and Darkrai are nicely checked by Magearna and AV Melmetal, and even scarf Keldeo and Mega Crab (underrated), or run bulk on Mega Golisopod and you’ve got a soft answer to them. Lucario Z may be a problem just because people started running focus blast and because of vacuum wave genesect was never that ironclad of an answer. Mega Meowstic? I mean it’s pretty neat and pretty good but it’s not exactly something i would class in with these in terms of the idea of “limited checks”.
The removal of genesect will open up team building and allow for more options to be possible than were before, making these mons more realistic to check.
