Hit list pre Genesect ban:
Regen M-Pod
Hit list post Genesect ban:
Regen M-Pod
All 3 z megas
M-Zeraora
Base Mag
Anihillape
Base Bax
Melmetal
nice stuff
The point is not so much "no genesect ban" it's "we know half the broken stuff in this format is considered untouchable so why are we taking out the broken check to broken first"
Regen M-Pod
Hit list post Genesect ban:
Regen M-Pod
All 3 z megas
M-Zeraora
Base Mag
Anihillape
Base Bax
Melmetal
nice stuff
The problem is that like how neither Gren was banned pre-dlc because it was new toy despite needing to be, there are now four whole ridiculous outspeed megas that we will give bad abilities and pretend are fine instead of banning them. To say nothing of the three remaining unbanned existing ubers who would be making the tier unbearable if it weren't for exactly grappleoct's role compression, another sentence I never thought I'd be saying. This ban doesn't open up building. It smashes a gaping hole in it and expects teams trying out weaker megas - the supposed point of the format - to still be able to counter everything broken in the format.I'm confused why people are suddenly acting like the concept of bans in this tier is terrible and unfounded when it's been a thing the whole time? If the argument is "don't ban genesect because this is supposed to be an unserious/for fun meta/there is no Uber tier/bans are bad" then shouldn't that logic apply to the already banned megas like Alakazam, blastoise, or magearna? I don't think so many people would enjoy that if it were to happen....
Now the argument that genescet particularly shouldn't be banned because it's not broken enough/"holds the tier together" or whatever I can at least understand though I disagree. I feel like genesect just was way to strong and versatile and had few counters, while countering everything else and was on practically every team which is annoying. But besides isn't the usual rule of thumb on Smogon "we don't allow broken things just to check other broken things"? If genescet was broken, then I don't think it should stay just to check other broken mons if anything those will just be banned
The point is not so much "no genesect ban" it's "we know half the broken stuff in this format is considered untouchable so why are we taking out the broken check to broken first"