Tournament National Dex 35 Pokes PL - Playable Tiers Discussion

[Ember Celica]

Welcome to the second edition of the National Dex 35 Pokes Premier League! The purpose of this thread is to help determine which 35 Pokes formats should be featured in this upcoming season of the PL!

The format list this year will be characteristically similar to last year, with a mix of classic tournament metagames, popular metagames, and metagames that represent the best of what 35 Pokes has had to offer over the past year. OM formats that already received a spotlight last year, such as Seniors, will not be included in season 2, leaving room for another OM or another beloved 35 Pokes meta (or maybe even both at the same time!!) to be featured while Seniors takes a well-earned rest. The 2 most promising OMs for inclusion right now are 35 VGC and 35 Perfect. 35 VGC, as the name suggests, is 35 Pokes played with current regulation VGC format rules. There are no restricted Pokémon, and tournaments typically mandate Open Team Sheets. 35 VGC has a robust and highly skilled playerbase, with some of its top players also seeing great success in similar VGC or 4v4 Doubles based formats! 35 Perfect, by far the largest 35 Pokes OM, takes the 35 Pokes concept and asks one important question: what if the 35 Pokémon were chosen by human hands instead of a computer algorithm?

35 Pokes Perfect tier explanation

35 Perfect features continual iterations of both its original format and the other formats which have spawned within it since the tier's creation, all with the goal of creating the most perfect list of 35 Pokémon possible. As such, formats are labeled with an alphanumeric code with each subtier assigned a letter and each iteration of that tier assigned a number corresponding to which iteration it is.

This thread will be opened for 1, possibly 2 weeks if needed for the community to discuss what tiers they would like to see included in this year's edition of the 35 PL. Remember, each player can only play one tier at a time in a given week and so if two extremely popular tiers have significant main playerbase overlap, one may be benched in favor of a seemingly less popular tier with a more diverse main playerabse. Last year's edition of this premier had 10 slots, and so we will be operating under the tentative assumption that we will be able to field 10 slots once again and decide the list of tiers accordingly. This is primarily for preparation purposes; it is far easier to prepare for 10 and go down to 8 if, by the time the league gets closer to beginning, that emerges as the best option, than it is to prepare for 8 and find ourselves unexpectedly 2 tiers short of a full league.

To assist with getting the discussion started, we have prepared a tentative list of metagames we think may work well as a tier list for 35PL II! This list is very subject to change based on the feedback you all provide here, but a considerable amount of thought went into this list and every included format has a very strong justification for being there. We know that many of you may have differing opinions, and we look forward to hearing both which metagames you believe ought to be included and the strong reasons behind why you believe so!

Tentative 35 PL II Playable Tiers List:

• July 2023

  
• February 2024

  
• March 2024

  
• March 2025 / February 2025

  March 2025

  

  • February 2025

    
• April 2025

  
• October 2025

  
• 35 VGC November 2025 (tentative) / 35 Pokes Singles February 2025

  November 2025

  
• 35 Perfect A3 / 35 Pokes August 2024

  35 Pokes Perfect A3

  

  August 2024

  
• June 2025

  

Post format stolen from/inspired by National Dex Alternate Metagames PL - Format Discussion

 

[qbking3]

Regardless of the month, I would like to see a VGC slot in the tournament. It has a dedicated player base and the metas are generally quite fun to build and play. I think current month VGC has a lot of potential but we're going to have to play more games of it in order to make that call.

 

[Ember Celica]

Speaking personally, and not necessarily on behalf of my fellow tier leaders, I'm both quite happy with this list and can think of multiple tiers I would like to see included that currently are not. The ones that spring to my mind most immediately are August 2023 and September 2024. August 2023 holds up particularly well as a balanced and competitive metagame that also well represents 35 Pokes at its most fun and interesting. It was my first metagame, as well as that of notable players such as NoExistencia Dacruize Kizaco and Zetious, so I may be a little bit biased but I believe that its stability across both previous iterations of the 35PL is a testament to its quality. On an even more personal note, it would be very unfortunate to see my favorite 35 Pokes tier not included in the first 35 Pokes Premier League that I am actually able to play in.

September 2024 is another quintessential 35 Pokes metagame that I have very fond memories of and is also widely considered to be quite dynamic and competitive. September 2024 is a favored metagame of multiple extremely skilled players such as Turtle12 presi and of course one of our reigning MVPs, Plague. Similar to August, there are multiple archetypes which can all equally and reasonably be run without one single archetype taking over the metagame too much. And looking at the league as a whole, I think that featuring both of the MVP metagames will make for some very interesting matches and hopefully fuel the fires of metagame development even further.

Other formats that I'd like to see in the Premier League but don't have quite as strong of a case for include December 2023 and January 2024. December 2023 was our introduction to Smogon and was featured heavily in major tournament settings for a considerable amount of time after that. It is one of the most interesting and unique metagames we have ever had, and the top level game play has arguably been pushed further than other 35 Pokes tier. It's a favored metagame of the two best players in the 35 community, BIGSHOT_ranger and AReallyShiftyGuy, as well as a metagame that many familiar names from the Natdex scene and the overall 35 scene performed very well in, on of the most notable of course being TTK. I could talk about this tier for hours, but that's best reserved for the day when it finally returns to the major tournament scene!


Finally, as far as formats not already on the list go, I wholeheartedly believe that January 2024 would make an excellent addition to the PL. The meta is particularly well balanced, even among our more well-balanced formats, and just feels amazing to play and build for. is a top mon that month, but it's neither overbearing nor exceedingly difficult to fit on diverse team structures. Classic lower tier staples such as and are present, but so are famously higher tier pokemon such as and . Any archetype one wishes to build would find at minimum moderate success in Jan24, though some flavor of balanced offense with dedicated screens/status support currently fares best. Bias may be finding its way into my voice once again here, but when considering January 2024 I cannot help but think that we have not since seen its like. One of the things I love the most about 35 Pokes is when things just work, when it fehels as if you're playing a metagame that could not possibly have been the result of anything short of full manual intervention for how naturally it flows, and January 2024 is a shining premier example of the concept. That being said, I equally appreciate that every metagame is not the twin of Jan 24; change is inherent to the nature of this tier, and even if there were a such thing as metagame that was universally beloved, balanced, and competitive, it would cease to be so the moment its continuation impeded the change that everybody who plays the tier eagerly awaits at the end of each month. Tournaments such as this Premier League are so important and so special because they allow us a degree of having our cake and eating it too with regards to enjoying the old alongside the new. And because "having your cake and eating it too" is a perfect description of the January 2024 metagame, I cannot think of a better fit for this tournament.

As for why the four aforementioned tiers were not included in the prospective list despite my involvement in creating it, the answer is compromise and respectable differences of opinion. I know that not everyone agrees with my personal opinions and characterizations of the various 35 Pokes metagames, and this tournament is not for me it's for everybody. Other factors, such as already having sufficient representation from that period in the tier's history, a low preferred-tier player count, and the strengths of the included tiers better suiting a starting point for community discussion, all played a role in my personal decision not to further insist upon the aforementioned tiers' inclusion. I will likely make another post, on behalf of the tier leaders, outlining why each tier included on the prospective list was included as well as a more in-depth post sharing my person opinions on the included tiers and the overall discussion once more of it has commenced.

 

[Ember Celica]

One quick note about the tiers actually on the list though - if I had to pick just one of them to actually make it into the final PL it would be 35 VGC. 35 VGC is hands down the OM I've enjoyed competing in the most out of the ones that I've tried, in large part due to the fact that it utilizes the same Pokémon list as the main tier does and that it feels very similar to VGC draft leagues and, in a way, 4v4duu, two formats which I've been greatly enjoying lately. It also feels like a very natural extension of one of the core themes of 35 Pokes - unlocking the true potential of every single Pokémon on the rollable list. Pokémon which would never see the light of day, even in standard 35 Pokes, can shine in our doubles format and therefore be one more of the 35 Pokémon from that particular month which we can enjoy using in unique and interesting ways. 35 Pokes is often compared to Draft and, much like Draft, people derive a great deal of joy from being able to use some of their favorite Pokémon. Unfortunately, the nature of a metagame means that some favorites simply won't be viable in the month in which they're rolled, or won't be viable in combination with other favored mons or strategies. 35 VGC is another chance for all of that to potentially happen, and as someone who derives a great deal of joy from the regular 35 Pokes, that is worth its weight in gold to me.

Concepts aside, the tier itself is just a very good experience to play if you enjoy doubles formats. 35 VGC has a very dedicated playerbase, many of whom specialize in VGC/doubles formats and would happily have it be their primary tier in the PL, without much concern over missing out on other formats. This is an especially important quality for an OM tier to have, as the pool of available players is inherently smaller and any competition between it and a main tier format will almost always result in the player choosing the main tier format over it. This was also a concern with some of the main tier formats that was raised during preliminary discussions and the reason why certain ones were not included on this post's list despite their quality and popularity. As for the specific 35 VGC format, for now I believe that November 2025 would represent the tier best, but as qbking3 said this current metagame may have the potential to eclipse all our past VGC metas and therefore earn a spot in this PL. One of the purposes of OMs being potentially included in the 35PL to begin with is to help those metagames grow and develop by spotlighting them, thus bolstering both the OM playerbase and the main tier 35 Pokes playerbase via novel cross-interest. Out of all the official and major non-official 35 OM tiers, I believe that 35 VGC has the most to gain from such a spotlight and is therefore most deserving of it.

 

[AlfrexFrostStaff]

INCLUDE AUGUST 24 SO THAT I CAN PLAY CORSOLA GRAVITY!!!!

 

[Kizaco]

PLEASE DECEMBER 23 LC

 

[Peum]

Hello as someone that has been playing 35Pokes consistently throughout the past 7 months I think id like to give a shoutout to my favourite meta that I think is very underrated.

May 2025

This meta is one of the most diverse metas we've ever had, with all HO, Balance and Stall being viable picks to bring, while still having weather like sun and rain be viable but not overwhelming. Having options like Goodra, Empoleon, Cofagrigus, Skarmory and Tangrowth check them defensively. Both Mienshao and Nidoking come close to being overbearing, but fall just short thanks to effective counterplay, staying within the bounds of optimal play. and where building for it feels more fun than any other meta I've played, it would not be a lie to say that I've built 5 times more on this meta than any other.

I think that giving this meta a chance for the pl would make it progress significantly, as I dont think we've come even close of it being a solved meta. It would also give more spotlight to the 2025 metas, while still being a fun and enjoyable meta overall.

 

[Turtle12]

I am extremely biased since I won June 2025 but I think it is a really great addition to this list. There are a couple unique things about this meta that I think are very enjoyable:

First is that there is a lot of regenerators between the slowkings, tangrowth, mienshao, ditto, and klawf. This leads to relatively longer games by pokemon standards and because of these longer games a couple turns of bad luck generally don't mean the game is over for you. Pursuit from tyranitar and excellent sweepers in Quaquaval and Mimikyu also prevent most games from going too long. In my opinion this is the perfect environment for battlers to show their skill.

The second reason is that the metagame is extremely centralized around the top 5 pokemon (Slowking-g, Tyranitar, Quaquaval, Mimikyu, and Tangrowth). 35pokes is all about playing with a limited amount of pokemon and generally because of that you are able to come up with more specialized strategies and techs for the limited pool of available pokemon, June 2025 takes this to the extreme. Despite most teams having similar cores with the top pokemon having extremely high usage stats a large amount of the list is viable. Teambuilders are able to show their skill through knowing when to stick with the proven meta pokemon, and when to use the plethora of alternative viable pokemon.

 

[GC]

a few of my picks:
dec23 - a classic, well-liked meta that hasn't seen much spotlight since the forum tour, also as typhon mentioned it is favored by our two best players. pelipper and tyranitar rule the meta, but both have abundant counterplay and neither weather has a broken abuser, and pincurchin is good which I find very humorous.

jan25 - yes this technically is a stall meta, except stall is mid as hell because of the number of options you have to farm ClodBro cores, ranging from metagame staples like banded golurk and subcm/subplot mesprit, to completely random sweepers like growth+sp comfey with sun, also the move future sight in general.

aug25 - unlikely so I'll only touch on it briefly, but imo this meta has so much potential to be good if only we ban weavile and arena trap, PLEASE council I beg of you

feb/march/april24 bo3 - YOU WILL PLAY ALOMOMOLA META AND YOU WILL LIKE IT. but fr these 3 are so integral to this format's identity and all have dedicated playerbases because of how ubiquitously fun they are to play and build in, so this seems like the perfect way to showcase 35 pokes at its peak.

35 perfect D1 - this shit is so peak man, if you haven't played it yet just go to the 35 perfect server rfn and ping for a D1 game, you will most likely get one. my top 3 pieces of advice are: carkol is goated, tinkatuff is kinda mid, and lampent is secretly broken.

june25 - only if we keep tangrowth and reroll the other 34

 

[Kizaco]

PLEASE DECEMBER 23 LC

Expanding on this because I do actually have valid reasons
1: It was the first supplementary metagame to really "take off" in a sense.
2: The meta, while being offense based, is extremely balanced in terms of threats. I'd say theres nothing that has only 0 or 1 check.
3: It has a large amount of set and role variety. Out of the tier list (attached below) I'd say everything C+ and up has a solid chance. I can atest to this myself because I used a decent amount of them and could usually find a solid use (shout out eject pack leaf storm pansage)
4: It's a meta that leads to interesting and engaging games, both as a player and spectator, which is very good for a PL.

 

[Tomotaco69]

I have several metagames I consider good just because I consider them the most balanced, or because I just like them.

Feb24:
I think this is THE staple meta for 35 because of the fact that nothing feels broken, playstyles of all sorts are generally viable, and the meta consistently provides a place for creative team/ set building.

April24:
This is a hit or miss for some people, but this is probably my personal favorite meta. The metagame is very centered around bulky balance, and the games could sometimes get dragged out. However, I personally love this meta because the slower pace of the metagame is refreshing to the often offense leaning metas that are frequent due to power discrepancy in the available Pokemon. I like that this meta feels the most strategic, forcing players to play optimally, while innovating new ways to get around the meta with creative sets. It provides the players a metagame that rewards optimal play, while rewarding out of the box thinking.

Oct25:
I personally like this meta because of its vague similarity to GSC OU. Corviknight is the center piece of the meta, and easily the most versatile member in terms of the teams they enable/ fit into (you also need a REALLY good reason not to build with Corviknight). Just like Feb24, this meta has a place for all sorts of playstyles, and nothing feels broken due to everything seemingly having answers for everything. Everything in the meta is arguably viable in someway, and I would say this meta is definitely recommended for entry; providing players with a supportive environment for creative team building.

Dec25:
Recent, but I think it is a generally good meta. As similar to others, the creative team building is supported, and there is answers to everything in the meta. I don’t like that there’s a Shell Smash Pokemon in the meta, given my general distaste for the matchup-farmer move, but even with that stain, it is balanced enough for me to endorse.

That is all the metas I would think to immediately recommend that is:
-Beginner friendly
-Promotes creativity
-Balanced

That is all.

Ninjask is a bum btw.

 

[eambplsl]

What I would really enjoy to see:

Any meta from the Feb24-May24 era: Its considered by many in the server the best strech of metas and have huge importance for the playerbase and the server as a whole (Portobelle Boom happener here). All but May24 have been already nominated by other players, and since Im not a May24 guy, will let someone else explain, they probably will.

Oct-B: I cant not talk about my baby. Its one of the few metas to NOT have 35Pokes, and the only non-July in that, with 44 legal mons, but still amazing. Its an wellknown meta and have all playstyles viable, very fun games to watch as a spectator, but more importantly here, a billion ways you can make that type of teams. Sand, Snow, Hazard Stack, Webs, even fucking Manual Rain is an option that has had success (Wumineon is a Victory Roader), and even tho Doublade is a bit infamous on relaying only on Mandibuzz to keep it in check, thats straight up not true, Physdef Poliwrath, Rotom-Mow or any decent special attacker works.

Dec23Lc: Well I wouldnt talk about my other baby but Kiz really wants it so here I go. First ever active OM in 35 history, very fun balanced meta where about anything is viable, (Slakoth and famously Snom has results) and yeah, Kiz did the work for me already.

All 3 Decembers: Dec23 is a classic, no apresentations needed, Dec24 was in the last PL, but Dec25 is a newer meta I really enjoyed. Yes, Revravroom and Shell Smash Blastoise exist and are very annoying, but there is good counterplay. I have seen all but Stall being played and I dont have much tk say besides is your standart good 35 meta: Fun techs, many pieces viable and its the first one I mencion here were TR is a actual strat! WOOOOOOOO

Returnees of S1PL: Sept24 and Feb25
I wouldnt personally like to have that many repeats from previous PL, but those are well like developed metas that we have seen already in here, so why not again?

Oct-D, aka Oct25
Ladder Spotlight meta so a boom right here. Its one of the higher power ones in 35, and the dances to see whos the first to break the other team core while perserves your own is beautiful ngl. Manual Rain strikes again to

Thats... a lot of metas but I just really love 35 lol

 

[presi]

My biggest gripe w this selection rn is that it's pretty similar to last year. i'd say most of the metas mentioned are great honestly hard to find flaws but it would be cool to switch it up.
>july23
I'd be glad to see this. I think It's a metagame that's developped a bit of a following and it would be interesting to try it in a pl context. It seems like an easy to understand balance metagame with interesting options that would make for good pl games.
>feb24
I will never say no to this. it's a classic. Great balance metagame with interesting team comps and big appeals in how it plays with pivots and defensive pieces. Probably one of the best metas in 35 history. I think there could be an argument made to give it a rest in favour of something else though so it stays fresh next time we bring it back. We've had 2pls and trios so far. but it still has room to grow.
>March2024
I like march a lot. a lot of interesting comps and strategies. I'd say this is one of the better metas. I'm more hesistant on saying keep this. Mainly because we had the pl and the retro. I think march is fs a classic Idk if it's as iconic as feb to be something that has to come back doe. This is moreso an argument for freshness considering idk many people who dislike march. but I think it's good to capture the smogon audience as is feb. But it leaves room for other beloved 24 metas to not be picked.
>march25
I'm not quite sure why this was picked. It was mid pl when it was current iirc. I'd say it has interesting stuff after doing research for it but idk if it's enough to warrant a slot compared to some of the other 25 metas.
>feb25
yeh it's good. fun offensive meta w cool strats. not too similar in feeling to many other tiers which I think is something in its favor. u don't really get the uxie bewear kinda bulky offense in many other tiers. I don't like it personally cus is frustrating for more defensive teams vs annoying sigi. however Ik some people who do. I think y'all need to ban sleep if you bringing this back tho. Imagine gamblecat in pl. Let's be serious for a moment
>April25
I think this makes complete sense. ladder meta means it got more spotlight. It's also a really damn good meta with bulky and offensive pieces meaning u can run whatever u want. It has really interesting breakers in drampa exploud maro miltank arcanine etc and a great bulky offensive defensive profile w cycl noir donph tenta. I think this meta would be great for a pl since it's the kind of meta that rewards good play and interesting takes on top tiers. It is easy to understand which I think is also important.
>Oct25
Can't argue with this. Didn't play it personally but ik a lot of people like it. second spotlight and has a lot of players. Interesting strategies all around. can't say too much but wouldn't be opposed to this.
>VGC
I have no idea as someone who does not play doubles. I think scovillain meowstic ludicolo it looks like it has potential. I think it would be cool to have a vgc meta if you can attract the audience. This depends on how many slots we'd have for oms. If we have 2 I'd be more than happy to see if we can try and cultivate a VGC audience. If not I think D1 should get it
>35 pokes A3/aug24
you really making me choose :(
both are great. and also very similar in how they play. A3 is a very skilled base bulky offense meta that rewards interesting positioning. Especially now light clay is banned i'd say it'd be a great opportunity to retry it. I'd say A3 has the more diverse tier since it's very close in viability. typical options include scarf/cb passimian av eel spikes/specs rade cb/sd samu av copper spin donph/tent and defog drampa. I think you can do a lot of cool stuff with this tier which Is why I like it in a pl environment. Structures can be messed around with a lot and you can have teams that look similar play completely differently. i've succesfully run teams with dusknoir either as a hazard stack abuser or a strong av mon. Drampa as defensive or specs. is a matter of how you support things. I've seen cb simi + epack rade to bring it on steels which I thought was very cool. But you could also pair it scarf rotom or eel to bring it on drampa for example. This tier is very chip heavy. Defense has all the tools to work but teams often have a lot of momentum and chip so most people like using offense. Bulky o mirrors are pretty common which is a strength of the meta imo. Typically this means games come down to who can position their breakers better and can clean with their scarfer. I think this would be interesting for the smogon playerbase as it rewards careful play and recognition of your winconditions and what you need chippes
Aug24 is a similarly great tier; it is very position heavy with volt turn everywhere. the typical answer to breaker like braviary and heracross in this tier is don't let them in. I think fat is ok with scizor since most teams do not have the longevity to win a war of attrition but overall bulky o dominates this tier. The tier revolves around scizor/rotom/lanturn volt turn cores to bring in powerful threats like flame orb hera dice/cb mamo and haviary. In the mirror the main way to win is by controlling the momentum. Ie if you have your rotom vs a heracross you can double to your own hera predicting their lanturn and you get a kill. you can get a lof of interesting mindgames and team compositions based on these similar cores. From normal sciz/rotom i've run everything from specs fez eelektross spikes hera cb mamo dhelm sawk etc. This tier is mainly about how you find interesting takes on top tier meta pieces and use it in play for sequences. This tier is VERY momentum heavy and you can FEEL the gamestate move with every turn. as with a3 it's not the kind of tier you can sit on your ass playing you have to make plays but they're both very good and make for exciting matches.
>june
I think this is a great tier. I had a lot of fun playing it and helping my friend prep for it. feels very interesting and ttar/gking/quaq/shao/tang is very easy to understand. My biggest gripe with the inclusison here is once again sleep. Sleep powder tang makes this tier frustrating to play. if you wanna rely on slowking as a check to this instead of using something more niche like escav or honch you get punished by getting your king slept and subsequently trapped bcs you have to make lord callouts. Overall good tier but gonna not recommend if sleep stays legal.

as for my suggestions
i'd say my N1 suggestion is D1 even tho its slightly less popular than A3 was tour wise I'd take D1 over A3. It deserves it over anything else if oms are getting in imo bcs it's shrimply the best. I do not know anyone who dislikes D1
I think D1 clears everything in this list. I think D1 is the best meta I've ever played. It had the most active ladder. the most hype tour and still holds up now in trios. I think building for trios rn I think this would resonate heavily with the smogon playerbase. It's famously an "ou-lite" feeling tier and it does not dissapoint in that regard. The banning of eviolite means the format is not too defensive and items are very varied. Gives it its famous feeling. due to the lower distribution of moves in nfe a lot of mons don't have as many tools to bypass their checks. Staravia for example does not get any notable fighting coverage. this leads to the tier feeling very balanced with a developped checks and counters system making playstyles more engaging. You know exactly what beats what in d1 since things are so centralised. In traditional 35 pokes you would sometimes see pokemon like weezing-galar on offensive teams as they would otherwise have no answers to certain threats. D1 circumvents this by giving multiple options with varying degrees of staying power and exploitability to fulfill team requirements. the meta is very centralised. this is a great thing because top tiers like tinkatuff quilladin and palpitoad check everything you want and also give you utility. Niche options are also very good also. The finals had stufful porygon and lampent which were previously considered to be mid dominating games because you can have interesting takes on almost everything(apart jimmy and goomy). Everything can run more than one set and the magic comes in how you combine them. be it manual sun with porygon and ponyta. Banded stufful with hattrem to block strength sap; palpitoad with snow for weather ball. Lampent with mankey to beat phys walls. Band krok + fsight to get past anything and get rid of tinks balloon. infestation gloom + pursuit krokorok to trap its checks etc etc. tinkatuff is the perfect example of this. being able to run defensive pickpocket sets to be checks to staravia snow stufful etc and provide important utility. swords dance on hyper offense to chip physical walls and stop scarfers and mold breaker to always get hazards up in the hattrem matchup. These don't make the tier feel awkard however. As thanks to all the great glue things are checked generally by the same things. Overload isn't dominating however because most teams have options for everything and ways to play around things. I could go on for hrs. but D1 is one of the all time GOATS. A must include for oms imo

OCT-B
this is a fav of some of 35s more long time players that is criminally underexplored; It has some really interesting strategies and a great centralised defensive metagame. I understand this tier less technically than some others so I have less to say. but when playing this tier it's very rewarding. The defensive metagame is strong but not too good. Trapping is balanced. The wallbreakers are very rewarding and great for setting up endgames. ho feels very easy to handle. And you have a lot of interesting options that break the mold like lumineon centi and slash. You can make a lot work here

april24
All time great tier. On the more infamous side but well deserving of a tour. Great fat metagame with interesting ways to break. I think this will be one of those metas that people find interesting meta developments with. i'm guessing smogon players will not let themselves get farmed by alo for 300 turns. I expect to see a lot of decid a lot of john a lot of rade gar specs cobal etc etc. seems cool to watch and cook for

 

[eambplsl]

What I would really enjoy to see:

Any meta from the Feb24-May24 era: Its considered by many in the server the best strech of metas and have huge importance for the playerbase and the server as a whole (Portobelle Boom happener here). All but May24 have been already nominated by other players, and since Im not a May24 guy, will let someone else explain, they probably will.

Oct-B: I cant not talk about my baby. Its one of the few metas to NOT have 35Pokes, and the only non-July in that, with 44 legal mons, but still amazing. Its an wellknown meta and have all playstyles viable, very fun games to watch as a spectator, but more importantly here, a billion ways you can make that type of teams. Sand, Snow, Hazard Stack, Webs, even fucking Manual Rain is an option that has had success (Wumineon is a Victory Roader), and even tho Doublade is a bit infamous on relaying only on Mandibuzz to keep it in check, thats straight up not true, Physdef Poliwrath, Rotom-Mow or any decent special attacker works.

Dec23Lc: Well I wouldnt talk about my other baby but Kiz really wants it so here I go. First ever active OM in 35 history, very fun balanced meta where about anything is viable, (Slakoth and famously Snom has results) and yeah, Kiz did the work for me already.

All 3 Decembers: Dec23 is a classic, no apresentations needed, Dec24 was in the last PL, but Dec25 is a newer meta I really enjoyed. Yes, Revravroom and Shell Smash Blastoise exist and are very annoying, but there is good counterplay. I have seen all but Stall being played and I dont have much tk say besides is your standart good 35 meta: Fun techs, many pieces viable and its the first one I mencion here were TR is a actual strat! WOOOOOOOO

Returnees of S1PL: Sept24 and Feb25
I wouldnt personally like to have that many repeats from previous PL, but those are well like developed metas that we have seen already in here, so why not again?

Oct-D, aka Oct25
Ladder Spotlight meta so a boom right here. Its one of the higher power ones in 35, and the dances to see whos the first to break the other team core while perserves your own is beautiful ngl. Manual Rain strikes again to

Thats... a lot of metas but I just really love 35 lol

Oh, forgot one:

Perfect D1: Imo, that has to be the perfect slot. It is, in a very objetctive manner, the best 35 meta. Every playstye is viable? Check. Almost every team as a place in the meta and a real good reason to be used over any other? Check. Allow for creative team building? Thats the 35 spirit for ya, check. Has been home for some of the best games of the history of the server? OOOOHHH ABSOLUTLY CHECK. My goat Maszt cooked with this one

 

[TTK]

Since I was tagged, might as well say my piece on this format discussion. I'll start off by saying the first PL was overall a success for us and showed how quickly 35 has grown as a community but I found issues with the actual format structure, which is gonna be my main thing I'm discussing in this post.


The first issue I had is that we didn't have a "Current Metagame slot". 35PL I started in March 2025 and ended in April 25 and idk, I've been playing teamtours for 3 generations now and since 35 Pokes is a gen 9 natdex tier, we don't really do oldgens. Our previous metas are akin to oldgens so what would be akin to "current gen?" That's right, the current month we're in's metagame. See any teamtour for any format, and there is minimum 3 slots for the current metagame of that format. 35 is in a unique position however, we have a LOT of metagames and I know it's certainly not fair for this to take up 3 slots but I want to see 1 slot for the current metagame because it just doesn't make sense for it to be excluded. This will also push metagame development and even when February 2026, everyone is gonna be in the same boat of you know, figuring out the metagame, which is fair for newcomers on the scene rather than have the mainers staying comfortable in their formats that have been around for 1-3 years now.


My second point today is the actual metagames. Now, I mentioned even at the time of 35PL I and when it was ending, I hope to not have repeating metas in the next PL and I'm here to state that again. I am still very perplexed to why an Ubers meta, which I'll be honest, NOBODY plays, got in over October 2024 last year. First change. The only OM that should even be considered is Perfect 35. Even though I was not active in 35 generally in 2025, Perfect is the only OM that actually has a tangible sub-playerbase and the metas are lowkey better than the majority of what we got in 2025 but again, that's just my subjectivity. They're designed to be as competitive as possible and aim to find balance compared to 35 formats that skew to the extreme (November 23). One slot should be dedicated to this.

To the actual main formats though, these are the formats we had in 35PL I:

• August 23
• February 24 x2
• March 24
• May 24
• September 24
• December 24
• February 25 x2
• Ubers April 24

For a total of 10 slots.

Here's the difficult thing about all of this now, what formats are getting in? As 35PL I had more of a focus on 2024 metas, I suggest 35PL II should have more focus on the metas of the previous year, and I'm saying this as a guy that liked like 3/12 metas in 2025. I'm already not a fan of the tentative metas list because we're seeing February and March 2024 again. Please retire these tiers, it's not everytime we have 2024 metas, we have to choose these two, October 24 certainly deserved its time, one of our only ladder metas. So I'm going to suggest a format template that we should follow, and fill it in what I would like to see. Ordering it from most recent to earliest meta.

• x2 Current Month
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2024 Meta
• x1 2024 Meta
• x1 2023 Meta
• Perfect 35 (Don't care which, any would work)

My version would be:

• Current Month 2026
• Current Month 2026
• January 25
• April 25
• June 25
• October 25
• February 24 (if it has to be this out of the 2024 metas, so be it, BUT DO NOT DO TWO SLOTS PLEASE)
• October 24 (I know y'all hate Amoonguss but this is a high skill ceiling meta and needs its time to shine)
• December 23 (This is one of the best 35 metas oat and out of all the 2023 metas, this is the standout one)
• Perfect 35 C1/D1/A3

That's it from me! My last message to anyone reading is that you have to remember this is a community thing. I genuinely believe my format template is for the sake of the community and is the most fair and inclusive (I would've just included every meta I liked after all). I'm not directly accusing anyone of this, but, I feel like everyone just wants to spam the tier that they like all the time, without considering anything else, hence why we see a repeat of Feb/March 2024. I know they're well-liked, but it's time for other formats to shine, and from a spectator experience, it's just boring to see the same formats all the time, especially when it can be argued some formats are more competitive than others. I really do hope we consider the "current month" slot in all of this though.

 

[BellUno]

As cool as it would be to have July23 essentially be developed within the PL itself, I would argue it would be a less beneficial choice over a meta with greater history due to it lacking a playerbase for the most part, and as such it would make the process of drafting and picking players unnecessarily difficult.
I would also argue March 24 should be substituted to give another meta with less attention a chance to shine. It has appeared in both the last PL and retro and isn't quite the stalwart of 35 tournaments that February 24 is (feels weird saying this as a March fan and a February hater lol).
March25 and April25 feel like strange picks as they had rather mixed receptions but would be acceptable choices despite this in my opinion.

As for metas to add I have several suggestions:
- April 24: One of the most iconic 35 metas of all time, with its unique, balance-heavy gameplay spawning many memes and gathering a devoted playerbase. It is not only unique among 35 metas for its slower pace but also for the sheer variety of sets that could be viably run with even Rabsca, Garbodor and Vespiquen appearing in the finals among Pokemon like Tinkaton, Gengar and Alomomola. Not only this, but despite being such a memorable metagame, it has not appeared in a tournament since its release month, and as such I would argue its the metagame most deserving of a spot in the PL.
- D1: Eam and Presi have already given great explanations for why this metagame is great but I feel that it'd be a better choice over A3 largely due to its sheer popularity.
- June 24: An underrated but undoubtedly great metagame, would be great to see it now that Shed Tail has been banned.
- June 25 and October 25: Just wanted to say I support these picks wholeheartedly, very fun metagames with October in particular being more mainstream due to having a ladder.
- VGC could be cool as well due to attracting a different group of players who prefer doubles.

 

[bloxiet]

I'm pretty happy with this list so far

however I think A3 for the perfect meta is a huge mistake
D1 is not only more iconic, it is also more beginner friendly, so Its going to be easier so new players to get into
(just look at the new perfect tournament

 

[presi]

Since I was tagged, might as well say my piece on this format discussion. I'll start off by saying the first PL was overall a success for us and showed how quickly 35 has grown as a community but I found issues with the actual format structure, which is gonna be my main thing I'm discussing in this post.


The first issue I had is that we didn't have a "Current Metagame slot". 35PL I started in March 2025 and ended in April 25 and idk, I've been playing teamtours for 3 generations now and since 35 Pokes is a gen 9 natdex tier, we don't really do oldgens. Our previous metas are akin to oldgens so what would be akin to "current gen?" That's right, the current month we're in's metagame. See any teamtour for any format, and there is minimum 3 slots for the current metagame of that format. 35 is in a unique position however, we have a LOT of metagames and I know it's certainly not fair for this to take up 3 slots but I want to see 1 slot for the current metagame because it just doesn't make sense for it to be excluded. This will also push metagame development and even when February 2026, everyone is gonna be in the same boat of you know, figuring out the metagame, which is fair for newcomers on the scene rather than have the mainers staying comfortable in their formats that have been around for 1-3 years now.


My second point today is the actual metagames. Now, I mentioned even at the time of 35PL I and when it was ending, I hope to not have repeating metas in the next PL and I'm here to state that again. I am still very perplexed to why an Ubers meta, which I'll be honest, NOBODY plays, got in over October 2024 last year. First change. The only OM that should even be considered is Perfect 35. Even though I was not active in 35 generally in 2025, Perfect is the only OM that actually has a tangible sub-playerbase and the metas are lowkey better than the majority of what we got in 2025 but again, that's just my subjectivity. They're designed to be as competitive as possible and aim to find balance compared to 35 formats that skew to the extreme (November 23). One slot should be dedicated to this.

To the actual main formats though, these are the formats we had in 35PL I:

• August 23
• February 24 x2
• March 24
• May 24
• September 24
• December 24
• February 25 x2
• Ubers April 24

For a total of 10 slots.

Here's the difficult thing about all of this now, what formats are getting in? As 35PL I had more of a focus on 2024 metas, I suggest 35PL II should have more focus on the metas of the previous year, and I'm saying this as a guy that liked like 3/12 metas in 2025. I'm already not a fan of the tentative metas list because we're seeing February and March 2024 again. Please retire these tiers, it's not everytime we have 2024 metas, we have to choose these two, October 24 certainly deserved its time, one of our only ladder metas. So I'm going to suggest a format template that we should follow, and fill it in what I would like to see. Ordering it from most recent to earliest meta.

• x2 Current Month
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2025 Meta
• x1 2024 Meta
• x1 2024 Meta
• x1 2023 Meta
• Perfect 35 (Don't care which, any would work)

My version would be:

• Current Month 2026
• Current Month 2026
• January 25
• April 25
• June 25
• October 25
• February 24 (if it has to be this out of the 2024 metas, so be it, BUT DO NOT DO TWO SLOTS PLEASE)
• October 24 (I know y'all hate Amoonguss but this is a high skill ceiling meta and needs its time to shine)
• December 23 (This is one of the best 35 metas oat and out of all the 2023 metas, this is the standout one)
• Perfect 35 C1/D1/A3

That's it from me! My last message to anyone reading is that you have to remember this is a community thing. I genuinely believe my format template is for the sake of the community and is the most fair and inclusive (I would've just included every meta I liked after all). I'm not directly accusing anyone of this, but, I feel like everyone just wants to spam the tier that they like all the time, without considering anything else, hence why we see a repeat of Feb/March 2024. I know they're well-liked, but it's time for other formats to shine, and from a spectator experience, it's just boring to see the same formats all the time, especially when it can be argued some formats are more competitive than others. I really do hope we consider the "current month" slot in all of this though.

good post. I think current meta is a good idea altho 2 slots seems a bit much. While I disagree on some of your meta choices I think you make a great point when it comes to repeats. I don't think feb/march and the like should be milked more and many other beloved metas could get the scene. gives a different feel for each pl instead of going for something "safe". I think if we cut out march and feb we could have already august and april which would be a solid selection for 24 metas. 25 metas I'm not super inclined to say go more towards them. keep it balanced at a minimum I think altho it is an interesting idea to have metas mainly be based on the past year. 25 had some decent metas fs. April and Oct make a lot of sense for inclusions but I think 3 25 and 3 past metas would be more balanced. that or do 2 25s 2/3 24s and 1/2 23s

 

[mangoose49]

I think the point TTK raised about everyone just talking about the meta's they like rather than what should actually be included is very true. There is something to be said for including meta's on the basis of them being liked but I think that an individual's preferences (especially w/out justification) are useful as a vague indication at best. Perfect 35 also feels like the only 35 OM you can justify, some of the others get tour's with single digit participants. Surprised D1 isn't the 35 perfect slot but I've only touched Perfect very briefly. Think this decision should be left to the proper perfect players/mains. I don't think there needs to be a specific number of 2025 meta's though, or even that the majority of meta's should be from 2025. I think October + a very recent meta (jan/dec if people like it ig, or current meta/a custom format) + one or two other 2025 months would be enough for the newer players (myself included). I also don't think that there's any reason to not repeat good months. If they're worth including once then unless something has changed why wouldn't they be worth including again?

In terms of specific months, I'll just talk about Oct 25, July 23 and June 25 since they're the only ones I've properly explored that I think have any case to be included (May 25 as well but I joined halfway through that month and thought it was only ok). July 23 was the first ever month but I think that's more of a tiebreaker in terms of what should be included, rather than a reason by itself. I do want to see it played though bc its one of the few months (or tiers in general) were I think a wide range of teamstyle (HO - SemiStall) are all legitimately viable/good and its not obvious what is better. If you've read anything I've written about what I think is viable/good in a given month you'll know that I tend to be extremely harsh in this assessment (I though about 3 6's were viable in broken November). I think this makes it a solid tier to build in and the battles we've gotten so far have also been consistently skillful (more subjective here, but teams can generally break each other but not instantly, requiring prediction or knock offs first, etc). I also appreciate that the best pokemon in the format have a ton of legitimately good and optimal sets. Taking Mowtom as an example I've built with scarf, Yache Berry 3 attacks (wisp and NP) and a physically defensive pivot a ton. Other stuff like specs, 4 attacks and rest(talk?) have serious reasons to be used as well. October was the most recent spotlight ladder w/multiple videos made about it (including by pokeaim) and was able to overcome an issue 35 pokes can sometimes have of pokemon being useable in the sense of doing something in battle, but being unable to be justified over better offensive pokemon due to a lack of a defensive niche. This was overcome because of the CB Pauros vs Corviknight dynamic, where Pauros could threaten by locking into Wild Charge or either STAB (but only barely). Pauros and Corviknight were the two most(?) used pokemon in the format, which meant there dynamic was foundational. This meant that compressing the ability to come in on one of Pauros' choice locks + one other trait was enough to justify a mon where it would otherwise struggle to fit. Steelix helping to pivot around Porygon-Z and being immune to electric was a clear example of thing, justifying its use over Muk. Armarogue's weak armour + fighting resistence gave it a niche over other fires and the otherwise offensively superior Porygon-Z. Not as sure about June being in the PL. I kind of fell out of love w/the tier as the month went on because Tyranitar vs Slowkings interactions felt kind of horrible. A ton of games also came down to whoever was forced to set up w/Mimikyu first, with the player holding back their own revenging their opponent. This led to some pretty horrible stalling moments. I think June was still a fine tier and I had possibly my favourite battles ever vs Turtles during it, but I wouldn't be sad to see it dropped. Might be a bit influenced by tour qualification method that was tested in this month but I don't think that's biasing me too much here.

I also think that having a custom format (i.e a new 35 pokes tier generated specifically for the PL) would also be a great idea. This would encourage collaboration within teams and would give a chance for players who don't specialise in any chosen format to play. This is also something that only 35 pokes can do and would be a way to distinguish the 35 PL from other tiers. Where else can you see such a direct reward for metagame innovation, understanding and teambuilding? Ofc I'm biased bc i love building new tiers but I think this would really add a new dimension to the tournament.

 

[TTK]

good post. I think current meta is a good idea altho 2 slots seems a bit much. While I disagree on some of your meta choices I think you make a great point when it comes to repeats. I don't think feb/march and the like should be milked more and many other beloved metas could get the scene. gives a different feel for each pl instead of going for something "safe". I think if we cut out march and feb we could have already august and april which would be a solid selection for 24 metas. 25 metas I'm not super inclined to say go more towards them. keep it balanced at a minimum I think altho it is an interesting idea to have metas mainly be based on the past year. 25 had some decent metas fs. April and Oct make a lot of sense for inclusions but I think 3 25 and 3 past metas would be more balanced. that or do 2 25s 2/3 24s and 1/2 23s

What's the difference between have x2 current month and the 2 slots we had for Feb24 and Feb25 last year? There isn't really any and I've already stated x2 Feb24 slots was fucking painful for prep. Unfortunately after thinking a bit more, I wouldn't want to have a doubled up slot of any meta tbh unless there's a strong demand. Less doubled slots = more unique metagames.

Regarding the weighting of 2025/2024/2023 metas, I'm not necessarily saying 2025 should take up most of the slots, but we have a full year of 2024, a full year of 2025, and 6 months of 2023, wouldn't it seem good to show off more of what we had this last year ending in our tournament scene? That's just me though. We can try to balance it out but 10 slots, three years, doesn't divide evenly so we're gonna have to figure that out somehow.

I also don't think that there's any reason to not repeat good months. If they're worth including once then unless something has changed why wouldn't they be worth including again?

I also think that having a custom format (i.e a new 35 pokes tier generated specifically for the PL) would also be a great idea. This would encourage collaboration within teams and would give a chance for players who don't specialise in any chosen format to play. This is also something that only 35 pokes can do and would be a way to distinguish the 35 PL from other tiers. Where else can you see such a direct reward for metagame innovation, understanding and teambuilding? Ofc I'm biased bc i love building new tiers but I think this would really add a new dimension to the tournament.

I would rather not repeating metas because we have 30 metagames at the minimum to choose from and choosing the same ones over and over again is simply biased. Particularly towards Feb24, which I played last PL, everyone says its balanced, but it's the sort of balance that equates sameyness, like there's no variation or innovation in that format, and I can't say I'm particularly interested to debate anyone on the contrary but if you want to disagree, the door is open. It's not possible to please everyone but I think the tour will be at its best if we switch up a bit. I will note a meta's overall competitiveness should take precedence first and foremost.

A custom tour format is a good idea and I wouldn't be opposed to have that as an alternative over a "current month" format. Council can also just get feedback from the people slotted in that format and reroll if necessary if a broken or unhealthy mon get rolled.

 

[presi]

What's the difference between have x2 current month and the 2 slots we had for Feb24 and Feb25 last year? There isn't really any and I've already stated x2 Feb24 slots was fucking painful for prep. Unfortunately after thinking a bit more, I wouldn't want to have a doubled up slot of any meta tbh unless there's a strong demand. Less doubled slots = more unique metagames.

Regarding the weighting of 2025/2024/2023 metas, I'm not necessarily saying 2025 should take up most of the slots, but we have a full year of 2024, a full year of 2025, and 6 months of 2023, wouldn't it seem good to show off more of what we had this last year ending in our tournament scene? That's just me though. We can try to balance it out but 10 slots, three years, doesn't divide evenly so we're gonna have to figure that out somehow.


I would rather not repeating metas because we have 30 metagames at the minimum to choose from and choosing the same ones over and over again is simply biased. Particularly towards Feb24, which I played last PL, everyone says its balanced, but it's the sort of balance that equates sameyness, like there's no variation or innovation in that format, and I can't say I'm particularly interested to debate anyone on the contrary but if you want to disagree, the door is open. It's not possible to please everyone but I think the tour will be at its best if we switch up a bit. I will note a meta's overall competitiveness should take precedence first and foremost.

A custom tour format is a good idea and I wouldn't be opposed to have that as an alternative over a "current month" format. Council can also just get feedback from the people slotted in that format and reroll if necessary if a broken or unhealthy mon get rolled.

There isn't I agree I don't think 2x of anything is a good idea
I agree w mangoose but you asw. Imo the best metas should get priority. I think it is interesting to have a highlight of what we did the past year but I think aswell if a meta is good who cares where it's from. so is more of what you value more. I think every year has multiple options. You could have a lot of 23 if you wanted. I think overall a diverse pool is probably more important so you don't have samey tiers and you have interesting stuff. Maybe 25 could fall into that with the more diverse metas of the year. I think there is an element of needing a few classics tho. think you're right abt dec23 in that regard since it's a very unique experience.

I agree with you on feb. I disagree I think it still has plenty of room to grow and variation but the fact of the matter is it's always the same interactions and same feeling. it's a great meta therefore we shouldn't suck the soul out of it. Imo the most important part is it takes a slot. we have plenty of other good metas that deserve the spot but if we have feb each time they can't shine.

 

[mm]

the three metas that i think should 100% go in ordered by what i think deserves it the most

perfect 35 - the best om, there is no debate. it definitely has the most robust playerbase out of any om so the level of competition will be a lot higher with there even being users who main the tier over regular 35. i personally think either d1 a2 or a3 should be picked. d1 is definitely my number 1 choice i think presi summed up why pretty well.
aug 24 - the best month to represent old months at this point. it's one of the greatest metagames in 35 history and i was baffled that it wasn't an option the first time. the tier has great variety, it's decently fast paced by default but stuff like semistall can be good with the amount of mons that fit on stall this month. the fact that tds are making us choose between this and perfect is a tragedy
june 25 - very good and established metagame that rewards players for labbing in the builder more. u can get away with almost any style here with balance bo and ho all being good, but games will never drag on for too long making it a very good spectator experience. its also easy to learn with the meta being healthily centralized around well known mons like gking and ttar which is important when a lot of 35pl's pool will consist of non mainers lel

 

[Ea-Nasir]

As a player who has been very detached from the community for all year, i will not act like my opinion still holds much in term of value. I am completely unaware of what the metas look like for 2025 (and 2026). Therefore, i will comment on what i can, and as much as i hate to say this, please remove feb24.

It is clearly in my top 3 35 metas of all time, as i think any person which has interacted with me is well aware; however, it has been the meta for a while now. It was featured twice in the past 35PL, was the meta brought to NDAM and was featured in trios. All its missing is a retro tournament. Comparing it to other metas from around the same "golden age", like March, April and May 24, or other enjoyed metas like August24, September24 or December24, or even played metas like October24, it seems apparent that Feb24 is a meta that gets way more of a focus.

While i think the intention is to create a "main" 35pokes meta, the fact is that the nature of 35 as an everchanging tier makes that somewhat hard to understand, and having a constant showup in 35 tournaments defeats the premisse a bit. Aditionally, 35 as a whole has enough metas to where removing a slot from a new meta people would like to showcase, just to readd the same meta that has been well worked on and heavily featured already feels unjust for these metas, which lose a chance to prove themselves.

I am strongly in favour of removing Feb24 from this edition of 35PL, and i hope i could convince you to be too. This is my 2 cents on this entire discussion, hope yall have fun with 35pl, free august24

 

[Ea-Nasir]

Oh, yeah, also, i forgot an old idea. lydian (shoutout friend) has more than a year ago suggested something to me for this PL that made me think. I did bring it up for the last edition, but its understandable it was not included. Leaving this here so the community can debate it though. I am also not entirely sure it is allowed, but considering some more underground tournaments seem to create new metas over preexisting ones a bit, it should be fine.

Conceptually, the idea is to roll a new metagame exclusively for 35PL. Have that be its own slot, where everyone starts with a blank slate and needs to learn the meta fast to not be left behind. This would essencially be leveling up the playing field for everyone, emulating the well-known rush of the start of each month to learn whats good and test the players and teams on their ability to inovate and adapt to the new meta. Pretty much test the skill 35pokers have at playing 35pokes.

Ok now thats it from me frfr

 

[presi]

based on what I've read in this thread I think if we did no repeats we could do smth like this(not ordered)
You could also do minimal repeats. i think feb25 could come back over one of these but I think overall no repeats is best
I mainly picked easy to understand tiers which have different appeals and a wide appeal
D1 - Gives an "ou" feeling tier with a lot of potential for lower tier use. default for an om slot imo.
OCT-B - fun to watch and cook for. trapping and a centralised metagame. More of a traditional 35 feeling with a lot of unique comps being viable
DEC23 - iconic weather wars format. gives a very unique "chip" tier.
APRIL24 - gives something for people who want more defensively solid tiers.
AUGUST24 - gives a volt turn offense tier which I think has big mass appeal
APRIL25 - gives a bulky-o tier which has similar appeal but things are more based on chip into guys like donph. ladder meta
JUNE25 - centralised balance ttar/gking meta. with guys like shao glim gives a lower tier natdex feeling
OCT25D - ladder meta. Great glue & Lot of interesting sequences and niche options. Basically has a place for everything
IDK - This was a pretty free slot so wasn't sure exactly what could fit. maybe a repeat here if we are to have one. i been seein ppl like JAN25 altho it does overlap in niche w april. Maybe JUNE24 can fit here. Whatever rounds things off nicest
current month/"custom format"/JULY23 - young metas