Pet Mod [Gen 3] Shadow Colosseum - Slate 9 (Shadow Lugia) - Submission Phase

[Yoshiblaze]

Name: Shadow Break
Power: 65
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Lowers the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage. Breaks Reflect/Light Screen before doing damage.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Close Combat and Brick Break's weird edgy son. A very strong move whose damage can't be reduced by screens, which are decently common in the meta despite Light Clay not existing. Mostly given to strong but slow attackers (with the notable exceptions of Flygon (and Scyther, ig lol)), so they don't have to eat a hit on the same turn after reducing their defenses and can break screens on the same turn they get set.

Name: Shadow Rave
Power: 70
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: 10% chance to lower the foe(s)'s SpD by 1 stage. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: literally my shadow wave sub from last slate but better. I do kinda agree that the sub last slate was a little meh, so a 10 BP bump should make it a little bit more clickable to stuff like Calm Mind users, now hitting both foes with the power of a Hidden Power rather than a Shock Wave.

Name: Shadow Sky
Power: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Summons Shadow Sky for 5 turns, a weather that damages all non-Shadow Pokemon for 1/8 of their max HP at the end of every turn. Weather Ball becomes 100 BP and Shadow-type.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): N/A
Potential Pokémon With This Move:()
Justification: Literally the example submission sub but with different distribution. Removed the Shadow move power boost from the original, replacing it with increased chip damage, making this into a Shadow version of Gen 2 Sandstorm. Still gives Shadow Pokemon a massive indirect power boost while making Protect and Substitute strong tools for them, if they are able to fit them alongside all the Shadow moves they're forced to run.

 

[Yoshiblaze]

24 Hour Warning for submissions!

And a quick review of the subs so far:

Name: Shadow Break
Power: 65
Accuracy: 90
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: No additional effect.
Priority: -6
Flags: Protect, Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: 130 BP move but is -6 priority so you're vulnerable to eating 2 attacks before you get the move off. 90 accuracy because it's a bit strong, but I wanted to give it higher power with Shadow Rush being 75 BP in the original game. Mostly given to slow, strong physical attacking mons (not Metagross, Snorlax, Swampert, Marowak, or Regirock to avoid power creep).

Name: Shadow Rave
Power: 50
Accuracy: 95
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Switches the user out. 25% recoil. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags: Protect, Sound
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: STAB Volt Turn/U-Turn clone, basically. Had to add drawbacks in accuracy/recoil so it doesn't become meta-warping. Given to (viable) Pokemon with decent Special Attack that either learn Hyper Voice, Uproar, or Heal Bell, or were part of the original list.

Name: Shadow Sky
Power: N/A
Accuracy: 100
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Summons Shadow Sky for 8 turns, a weather that damages all non-Shadow/Dark/Psychic/Ghost Pokemon for 1/16 of their max HP at the end of every turn and boosts the power of Shadow moves by 1.2x. Weather Ball becomes 100 BP and typeless.
Priority: 0
Flags: N/A
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Buff to Shadow/Dark/Psychic/Ghost types and Shadow move strategies. Given to those, but not Tauros, Zapdos, Metagross, Latias, Latios, Starmie, or Gengar for balance reasons. Changed to 1.2x so you don't just mindlessly use it on every Shadow Pokemon team.

Break - Using negative priority as a drawback for a Shadow is pretty interesting, but I think it's probably too big of a drawback for Shadow Break as is, considering its power and distribution. You could probably get way with making this 70 or 75 BP, so it feels more like a Focus Punch that kinda works in doubles.
Rave - Really interesting move that I didn't know how to feel about at first but looking at it as basically Volt Switch as a spread move makes it a lot clearer, adds something that's completely not seen in Gen 3, which gives you a good reason to use a Shadow Pokemon for it. I'd definitely have to be careful with the distribution though.
Sky - I see what you were going for but I'm not sure how I feel about this being active for 8 turns in a gen where weather rocks don't exist, seems like a bit much. Otherwise, it's pretty much how I'd envision a faithful adaptation of the move into a more balanced environment.

Name: Shadow Break
Power: 65
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Lowers the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage. Breaks Reflect/Light Screen before doing damage.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Close Combat and Brick Break's weird edgy son. A very strong move whose damage can't be reduced by screens, which are decently common in the meta despite Light Clay not existing. Mostly given to strong but slow attackers (with the notable exceptions of Flygon (and Scyther, ig lol)), so they don't have to eat a hit on the same turn after reducing their defenses and can break screens on the same turn they get set.

Name: Shadow Rave
Power: 70
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: 10% chance to lower the foe(s)'s SpD by 1 stage. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: literally my shadow wave sub from last slate but better. I do kinda agree that the sub last slate was a little meh, so a 10 BP bump should make it a little bit more clickable to stuff like Calm Mind users, now hitting both foes with the power of a Hidden Power rather than a Shock Wave.

Name: Shadow Sky
Power: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Summons Shadow Sky for 5 turns, a weather that damages all non-Shadow Pokemon for 1/8 of their max HP at the end of every turn. Weather Ball becomes 100 BP and Shadow-type.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): N/A
Potential Pokémon With This Move:()
Justification: Literally the example submission sub but with different distribution. Removed the Shadow move power boost from the original, replacing it with increased chip damage, making this into a Shadow version of Gen 2 Sandstorm. Still gives Shadow Pokemon a massive indirect power boost while making Protect and Substitute strong tools for them, if they are able to fit them alongside all the Shadow moves they're forced to run.

go off, king

That's all for now, Merry Christmas, and see you tomorrow!

 

[Yoshiblaze]

24 Hour Warning for submissions!

hey i lied again, I will be extending the submission phase for another 24 hours!
See you tomorrow!

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Voting time!

Voting rules can be found below and in the OP:

Voting Phase (1 Day)
After the submission phase is over, voting will begin. This mod will be using the same voting system as Megas Revisited, where you can vote for as many submissions as you want, with each submission getting a certain number of points based on how you ranked it. Slate 1 and all move slates will use the same system, as well as any other kind of slate we need to do if necessitated by what our Shadow mechanics end up being. An example can be seen below.

Voting Example

For a slate with Shadow Rush, Shadow Sky, and Shadow Wave, for example, a ballot would look like this:
Shadow Rush: User 1, User 2, User 3
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9

With this ballot, Submission 1 for Shadow Rush would get 3 points, Submission 2 would get 2, and Submission 3 would get 1. The same goes for Submissions 4, 5, and 6 in the Shadow Sky category and Submissions 7, 8, and 9 in the Shadow Wave category, with them getting 3, 2, and 1 point respectively.

You can add as many submissions are you'd like after your third vote, with each one getting 1 point.
Shadow Rush: User 1, User 2, User 3
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
So, in this ballot, Submissions 10 and 11 would also get 1 point in the Shadow Wave category.

You can vote for your own submission, but it can't be in first place or your only vote in that category. Be sure to mark your self-vote by putting (SV) after it.
Shadow Rush: User 12 (SV), User 2, User 3
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is in first place in the Shadow Rush category

Shadow Rush: User 12 (SV)
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This also wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is the only vote in the Shadow Rush category

Shadow Rush: User 2, User 12 (SV)
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 12 (SV), User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 12 (SV), User 10, User 11
This is a legal ballot because none of the self-votes are in first place or the only vote in a category.

If you vote for only 2 submissions in a category, the first place submission gets 2 points and the second place submission gets 1 point. If you vote for just one, then that submission gets 1 point.
Beedrill: User 1 (1 point)
Lopunny: User 4 (2 points), User 5 (1 point)
Pidgeot: User 7 (3 points), User 8 (2 points), User 9 (1 point), User 10 (1 point), User 11 (1 point)

Blank Voting Template

Move: User, User, User, etc.
Move: User, User, User, etc.
Move: User, User, User, etc.

The submission with the most points in a category will be added to the mod.

Noting has been vetoed!

Voting will end in 24 hours. Good luck!

 

[Yak Attack]

Shadow Break: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack
Shadow Rave: Abstain
Shadow Sky: Abstain

 

[Eris250]

Shadow Break: Yak Attack, Yoshiblaze
Shadow Sky: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack
Shadow Rave: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack

 

[Charliezard7]

Shadow Break: Yak Attack, Yoshiblaze
Shadow Sky: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack
Shadow Rave: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack

 

[BumbleOfAces]

Shadow Break: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack
Shadow Rave: Yoshiblaze, Yak Attack
Shadow Sky: Yak Attack, Yoshiblaze (I do not like the idea of a 100 BP shadow move)

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Voting is now over! Let's check out the winners!

Votes

Shadow Break
Yak Attack - 1 + 2 + 2 + 1 = 6 (council tiebreak)
Yoshiblaze - 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 = 6

Shadow Rave
Yoshiblaze - 2 + 2 + 2 = 6
Yak Attack - 1 + 1 + 1 = 3

Shadow Sky
Yoshiblaze - 2 + 2 + 1 = 5
Yak Attack - 1 + 1 + 2 = 4

WINNERS

Name: Shadow Break
Power: 70
Accuracy: 90
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: No additional effect.
Priority: -6
Flags: Protect, Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: 140 BP move but is -6 priority so you're vulnerable to eating 2 attacks before you get the move off. 90 accuracy because it's a bit strong, but I wanted to give it higher power with Shadow Rush being 75 BP in the original game. Mostly given to slow, strong physical attacking mons (not Metagross, Snorlax, Swampert, Marowak, or Regirock to avoid power creep).

Name: Shadow Rave
Power: 70
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: 10% chance to lower the foe(s)'s SpD by 1 stage. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: literally my shadow wave sub from last slate but better. I do kinda agree that the sub last slate was a little meh, so a 10 BP bump should make it a little bit more clickable to stuff like Calm Mind users, now hitting both foes with the power of a Hidden Power rather than a Shock Wave.

Name: Shadow Sky
Power: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Summons Shadow Sky for 5 turns, a weather that damages all non-Shadow Pokemon for 1/8 of their max HP at the end of every turn. Weather Ball becomes 100 BP and Shadow-type.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): N/A
Potential Pokémon With This Move:()
Justification: Literally the example submission sub but with different distribution. Removed the Shadow move power boost from the original, replacing it with increased chip damage, making this into a Shadow version of Gen 2 Sandstorm. Still gives Shadow Pokemon a massive indirect power boost while making Protect and Substitute strong tools for them, if they are able to fit them alongside all the Shadow moves they're forced to run.

Congratulations to all the winners!

Just like last slate, I'll have the official distribution of each of these Shadow moves out later today, along with staring Slate 4!
In the meantime, you can discuss the winning submissions and give some distribution suggestions!

See you soon!

 

[Eris250]

Is there a reason to use non-Shadow Pokemon over Shadow Pokemon?

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Is there a reason to use non-Shadow Pokemon over Shadow Pokemon?

Yes, as Shadow Pokemon are forced to run all the Shadow moves they can learn, which (by the end of the mod) only gives them 2 or less other moveslots to work with, so while Shadow Pokemon are strong, they're quite inflexible

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Slate 3 Official Distribution, with my reasonings as usual!

We're still early into the mod, so these lists are still subject to change upon suggestion, so if you disagree with me giving something a certain move, or think I missed out on giving something a move, then please let me know!

Slate 3 Move Distribution
Shadow Break -

Reasoning

Mostly kept Yak Attack's list the same with just a couple changes. Removed Absol since I think it's too frail to make good use of the move and swapped Electabuzz for Magmar as I noticed that Yak's Shadow Rave sub gave the move to Magmar and thought that giving Electabuzz Rave and Magmar Break would be better fits. I kept it on other frail stuff like Banette and Cacturne, but at least in the latter case it has Sand Veil to dodge some hits to get the move off. Also added it to Swampert, since it feels fitting and it's nice for it to have a strong single-target Physical move. Was also thinking of removing it from Flareon, since I wasn't sure if I wanted to commit the whole Eevee line to having Shadow Break right now, but considering what Shadow moves we haven't done yet and the fact that Flareon is the only physical Eeveelution, Shadow Break is probably the best we'll get for it, so it seems fine to keep. I also added it to Entei for basically the same reasons why I kept it on Flareon.

Shadow Rave -

Reasoning

Mostly kept my list the same, featuring strong Special Attackers that need a not-too-crazy Shadow option, as well as some Calm Mind users. Kinda like Shadow Rush, the distribution is a little low so that other stuff can get stronger moves. Also gave it to Plusle and Minun for the funny gimmick of Shadow Rave spam with them boosting their SpA stats thanks to Plus and Minus.

Shadow Sky -

Reasoning

Also mostly the same as my original list, where I mainly gave it to fast mons that can safely set the weather up before taking damage, along with the Poliwag, Wingull, Torkoal, Vulpix, and Larvitar lines to reference their weather setting abilities (that the former two don't have yet, but still). I could be convinced to remove it from TTar though, since it's anti-synergistic with Sand Stream. Castform also gets it for flavor, with its signature Weather Ball being the only way for a non-Shadow Pokemon to use a Shadow move. I originally had the Legendary Birds in parentheses, as I wasn't too sure how I felt about giving it to Zapdos, an already great mon that also commonly runs Substitute, which sounds annoying combined with Shadow Sky, but I think it should be fine to test it out.

Now on to Slate 4!

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Slate 4 - Shadow End, Shadow Storm, Shadow Panic​

This next slate features two of the strongest Shadow moves from XD in Shadow End and Shadow Storm, along with one of the weirder ones in Shadow Panic!

I've put some notes below to help you make submissions for Shadow moves:
- Remember that every Shadow Pokemon must run all of the Shadow moves they can learn and that every Pokemon will learn at least 2 Shadow moves. Thus, try to avoid making redundant Shadow moves, in case they are both given to the same mon, and think about whether it would be worth giving a Pokemon that already learns 2 Shadow moves an additional one.
- In Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, all non-signature physical Shadow moves are single-target attacks and all non-signature special Shadow moves are spread moves. Keeping this distinction is not a requirement, but is something to consider.
- Shadow moves are super effective against all non-Shadow Pokemon, but don't give the user a STAB boost. Keep this in mind when deciding how strong they should be.
- The Shadow Pokemon mechanic will be a powerful offensive tool, so keep that in mind when giving moves you make strong to already good Pokemon.
- Click here to see Orre Colosseum's Viability Rankings to see what's already strong.
- If you need a reminder of Gen 3 or Orre Colosseum's mechanics, click here to go to this thread's OP.
- If you need a reminder of what the mechanics of Shadow Pokemon are, you can see them below or in the spreadsheet.

Going for something very out there but still faithful to the games (cause they're my favourite Pokemon games)

Shadow Pokemon Effects

• Moves: All Shadow Pokemon learn at least TWO Shadow moves (and can learn a max of FOUR, all of which are default/Lv1 moves). All Shadow moves the Pokemon has available to it must be included in the moveset (so some mons have one legal moveset).
• Type Chart: Attacking moves are always 2x super effective on non-Shadow Pokemon, and 0.5x effective on Shadow Pokemon, but Shadow is not a Pokemon's type and so there is never STAB. Moves can be physical or special, decided on a per-move basis.
• Availability: Any mon that has a Shadow move in its moves is a Shadow Pokemon (keeping in mind how moves work). On its first switch in, there is a message identifying it as a Shadow Pokemon (akin to Terapagos' ability). There isn't a limit on the number of Shadow Pokemon on a team.

The moveset limitation seems interesting to build around and can let us create some very interesting move distribution. A Shadow mon is obviously powerful offensively, giving it near-perfect coverage in one move (which can offset it not getting STAB). Defensively, resisting Shadow is a huge benefit (since there's no STAB, the BP does all the heavy lifting). How moves adapt to this could be interesting as well - the more Shadow moves a Pokemon gets, the less slots for other moves it can run, which could make some unable to run Protect, Fake Out and other meta relevant moves, and so the moves it would get to run would need to be designed around that.

Soo Yoshi left a comment:
For attackers, making it a Shadow (instead of a regular mon) opens up perfect coverage in a single move slot (2x effectiveness vs everything will hit harder than a STAB attack). Depending on its ability to run boosting moves (if it has less than 4 Shadow moves), it could end up snowballing quick. Something like CB Tauros would also be a very scary Shadow mon since it's locked to one move anyways, and this move would have 2x effectiveness on everything.

On defense, the key value is resisting Shadow attacks from the above attackers. It's probably a requirement to have at least one just to be able to switch into Shadow attacks (since being a Shadow effectively quarters damage from Shadow attacks compared to regular mons). Something like Metagross or Arcanine, which have a lot of defensive value already, could benefit from this, especially if their Shadow movepool lets them still run options like Protect. While Shadow attackers don't really get to use their offensive typing, defenders do, and so defensive answers with good typings can get a lot of value from also resisting Shadow attacks.

I have also included the original versions of each of the slated Shadow moves, in case you need inspiration:

Shadow End in XD

Name: Shadow End
Power: 120
Accuracy: 60%
PP: N/A (Shadow moves didn't have PP in the original games, but they will here)
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: User loses 50% of its current HP after doing damage. This recoil isn't prevented by Rock Head.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Contact
Distribution:

Shadow Storm in XD

Name: Shadow Storm
Power: 95
Accuracy: 100%
PP: N/A (Shadow moves didn't have PP in the original games, but they will here)
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: No additional effect. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Distribution:

Shadow Panic in XD

Name: Shadow Panic
Power: --
Accuracy: 60%
PP: N/A (Shadow moves didn't have PP in the original games, but they will here)
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Confuses the target(s). Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Sound
Distribution:

And lastly, below is the template for making Shadow move submissions, as well as the rules for making subs:

Template & Example Moves Submission

Blank Template
Name:
Power:
Accuracy:
PP:
Category:
Type:
Effect:
Priority:
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound):
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification:

Template With Explanations
Name: [Name of the move]
Power: [Base Power of the Move]
Accuracy: [Accuracy of the Move. Has to be a multiple of 5]
PP: [Power Points of the Move. Has to be a multiple of 5]
Category: [Physical, Special, or Status - Note that offensive Shadow moves are allowed to be either Physical or Special]
Type: [Type of the Move]
Effect: [What the move does. Can be a secondary effect or an inherent effect like Throat Chop's. Also include whether or not the move is a spread move]
Priority: [The priority bracket of the move. The standard priority of a move is 0]
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): [Specify which flags the move has. A full list can be found here.]
Potential Pokémon With This Move: [List a few Pokémon that could learn this move. The council ultimately decides what Pokémon get what moves, but we'll generally use the same list]
Justification: [Explain what purpose this move would serve]

Example Move Submission
Name: Shadow Sky
Power: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Summons Shadow Sky for 5 turns, a weather that damages all non-Shadow Pokemon for 1/8 of their max HP at the end of every turn. Weather Ball becomes 100 BP and Shadow-type.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): N/A
Potential Pokémon With This Move:

After Slate 1 - Adding Shadow Moves (5 Days per slate)
After we decide how our Shadow Pokemon mechanic works, we'll then adjust every Shadow move from XD: Gale of Darkness to fit a PvP setting and make them fit better into whatever our Shadow mechanics are. 3 Shadow moves will be slated each slate for you to sub changes to, for a total of 6 slates for all 18 original Shadow moves, plus any additional slates if deemed necessary. Submissions should follow the template in the spoiler tag below and be balanced for the Orre Colosseum metagame (taking our Shadow Pokemon mechanics into account), as the council reserves the right to veto any submissions deemed broken, uncompetitive, or uncodeable. Shadow moves should generally follow the same idea of their original versions, but they don't need to. You can only make 1 submission per move slated.

This slate will be open until Saturday, January 3rd.

See you soon!

 

[BumbleOfAces]

Name: Shadow Storm
Power: 95
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: After using this move, the user will no longer be Shadow type. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Distribution:
Justification: A shadow type version of burn up. Think it would be interesting to have a strong move that forces you to give up the defensive utility of being a shadow type to use it. The power this type of move should have is a bit tricky to figure out, so I'm keeping it at the base game power for now but with perfect accuracy.
Edit: It was meant to be a spread move just like burn up originally, oops

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Name: Shadow End
Power: 100
Accuracy: 80
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: User takes recoil damage equal to 50% of the damage dealt.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Contact
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Tones down both the crazy power and crazy drawbacks of the original version into what is essentially Shadow Head Smash. Mostly given to slower things, who can become slow nukes but being that is a little tough without Trick Room or Tailwind around, and weaker things, who can exert some newfound pressure on the opponent but are still lacking in a lot of other things. Golem, Steelix, and Relicanth are notable here thanks to having Rock Head, so the only drawback they have to deal with is that accuracy (though using Relicanth as a Swift Swim breaker is probably more viable).

Name: Shadow Storm
Power: 90
Accuracy: 80
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: 20% chance to lower the foe(s)'s Evasion by 1 stage. Can't miss in Shadow Sky. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Slightly weaker Shadow version of the Genies' signature moves from Legends: Arceus. While I mainly gave Shadow Rave to Calm Mind sweepers and generically strong Special Attackers, this is more meant for weather abusers to get off a strong spread hit before anything else can move. Most of the best weather abusers (Kingdra, Ludicolo) already have weaker moves, so the best user here is probably Shiftry, who's already pretty threatening with Fake Out and Boom pressure. Golduck, Exeggutor, Cacturne (for Sand) and Mantine are also of note.

Name: Shadow Panic
Power: --
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Lowers the foe's Special Attack and Special Defense by 1 stage.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Sound
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: *un-calms your mind*. Intersection between Eerie Impulse and Fake Tears, making your opponent both weaker and frailer but at a smaller degree than both of those other moves. Mainly given to fast and weak or slow and bulky support mons that don't do much damage by themselves.

 

[Ema Skye]

Name: Shadow Storm
Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
PP: 16
Category: Special
Type: Shadow
Effect: Hits all other Pokemon
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): none
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Spread moves are weakened by 50%, but hit all moves like EQ aren't, and so this is a very potent offensive option that will require considering your ally's ability to avoid it.

Name: Shadow Panic
Power: --
Accuracy: 100
PP: 8
Category: Status
Type: Shadow
Effect: Restores 33% of the user's HP and protects the user, then inflicts 'Disable' on this move.
Priority: +3
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound):
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Given the move restraints of Shadow Pokemon, a Shadow-version of Protect would be an interesting addition to the mod. The disable effect provides a high risk take on the move (since you can't use it every other turn or risk a 'double protect') while the healing provides an incentive to run it over slotting Protect in one of the remaining move slots.

 

[G-Luke]

Name: Shadow End
Power: 105
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: User lowers Defense and Attack by one stage.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Contact
Distribution::

Superpower clone! Makes Shadow End be a powerful offensive option.

 

[Yoshiblaze]

24 Hour Warning!

And a little sub review!

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I've always liked the Burn Up/Double Shock effect, so I think this idea is super neat, especially since you keep the best part of being a Shadow as you still get to click the move later but lose the second best part and can get owned by other Shadows now. I will say though that, even with the drawback, this is probably too strong to be a single target move, so I'd say to either make it a spread move or lower the power/accuracy a bit. Also, did you mean to make this a contact move?

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tuff.

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I thought Shadow Storm was crazy when I first looked at it but actually it's just the same power as a STAB Earthquake, so that's fine with the right distribution actually.
Shadow Panic is neat, since Slate 1 ended I've been thinking about what a Shadow version of Protect could look like since I imagine a lot of Shadow mons might have to drop Protect to fit the moves they want, so a select few mons having access to a Shadow Protect could be a big boon for them.
Also, not a huge concern since distribution is ultimately up to the council anyway and both moves' listed distribution just happen to be pretty good as is, but did you mean to give these the same distribution as my versions of them?

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I like it, makes good use of a major but not unprecedented drawback. Could maybe be a little too strong, since it basically has the power of a STAB Gen 3 Overheat, which is a bit of a leap above Superpower, but I get it being stronger since Superpower's drawback is especially bad in doubles and if you were to lower it I wouldn't go lower than 95.

That's all for now, keep the subs coming!
See you tomorrow for voting!

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Voting time!

Voting rules can be found below and in the OP:

Voting Phase (1 Day)
After the submission phase is over, voting will begin. This mod will be using the same voting system as Megas Revisited, where you can vote for as many submissions as you want, with each submission getting a certain number of points based on how you ranked it. Slate 1 and all move slates will use the same system, as well as any other kind of slate we need to do if necessitated by what our Shadow mechanics end up being. An example can be seen below.

Voting Example

For a slate with Shadow Rush, Shadow Sky, and Shadow Wave, for example, a ballot would look like this:
Shadow Rush: User 1, User 2, User 3
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9

With this ballot, Submission 1 for Shadow Rush would get 3 points, Submission 2 would get 2, and Submission 3 would get 1. The same goes for Submissions 4, 5, and 6 in the Shadow Sky category and Submissions 7, 8, and 9 in the Shadow Wave category, with them getting 3, 2, and 1 point respectively.

You can add as many submissions are you'd like after your third vote, with each one getting 1 point.
Shadow Rush: User 1, User 2, User 3
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
So, in this ballot, Submissions 10 and 11 would also get 1 point in the Shadow Wave category.

You can vote for your own submission, but it can't be in first place or your only vote in that category. Be sure to mark your self-vote by putting (SV) after it.
Shadow Rush: User 12 (SV), User 2, User 3
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is in first place in the Shadow Rush category

Shadow Rush: User 12 (SV)
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 5, User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This also wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is the only vote in the Shadow Rush category

Shadow Rush: User 2, User 12 (SV)
Shadow Sky: User 4, User 12 (SV), User 6
Shadow Wave: User 7, User 8, User 12 (SV), User 10, User 11
This is a legal ballot because none of the self-votes are in first place or the only vote in a category.

If you vote for only 2 submissions in a category, the first place submission gets 2 points and the second place submission gets 1 point. If you vote for just one, then that submission gets 1 point.
Beedrill: User 1 (1 point)
Lopunny: User 4 (2 points), User 5 (1 point)
Pidgeot: User 7 (3 points), User 8 (2 points), User 9 (1 point), User 10 (1 point), User 11 (1 point)

Blank Voting Template

Move: User, User, User, etc.
Move: User, User, User, etc.
Move: User, User, User, etc.

The submission with the most points in a category will be added to the mod.

Noting has been vetoed!

Voting will end in 24 hours. Good luck!

 

[BumbleOfAces]

Shadow End: Abstain
Shadow Storm: Yoshi, Bumble (SV), Ema (Absolutely love all three effects, choice was down to what would fit the name the best)
Shadow Panic: Ema, Yoshi

 

[PalpitoadChamp]

Shadow End: G-Luke, Yoshiblaze
Shadow Storm: Yoshiblaze, BumbleOfAces, Ema Skye
Shadow Panic: Ema Skye, Yoshiblaze

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Shadow End: G-Luke
Shadow Storm: Ema Skye, Yoshiblaze (SV), BumbleOfAces
Shadow Panic: Ema Skye

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Voting is now over! Let's check out the winners!

Votes

Shadow End
G-Luke - 2 + 1 = 3
Yoshiblaze - 1 = 1

Shadow Storm
Yoshiblaze - 3 + 3 + 2 = 8
BumbleOfAces - 2 + 2 + 1 = 5
Ema Skye - 1 + 1 + 3 = 5

Shadow Panic
Ema Skye - 2 + 2 + 1 = 5
Yoshiblaze - 1 + 1 = 2

WINNERS

Name: Shadow End
Power: 105
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: User lowers Defense and Attack by one stage.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Contact
Distribution::

Superpower clone! Makes Shadow End be a powerful offensive option.

Name: Shadow Storm
Power: 90
Accuracy: 80
PP: 10
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: 20% chance to lower the foe(s)'s Evasion by 1 stage. Can't miss in Shadow Sky. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Slightly weaker Shadow version of the Genies' signature moves from Legends: Arceus. While I mainly gave Shadow Rave to Calm Mind sweepers and generically strong Special Attackers, this is more meant for weather abusers to get off a strong spread hit before anything else can move. Most of the best weather abusers (Kingdra, Ludicolo) already have weaker moves, so the best user here is probably Shiftry, who's already pretty threatening with Fake Out and Boom pressure. Golduck, Exeggutor, Cacturne (for Sand) and Mantine are also of note.

Name: Shadow Panic
Power: --
Accuracy: 100
PP: 8
Category: Status
Type: Shadow
Effect: Restores 33% of the user's HP and protects the user, then inflicts 'Disable' on this move.
Priority: +3
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound):
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Given the move restraints of Shadow Pokemon, a Shadow-version of Protect would be an interesting addition to the mod. The disable effect provides a high risk take on the move (since you can't use it every other turn or risk a 'double protect') while the healing provides an incentive to run it over slotting Protect in one of the remaining move slots.

Congratulations to all the winners!

Same deal as the last couple slates, a short break for discussion and then I'll reveal the official distributions and start the next slate!

See you soon!

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Slate 4 Official Distribution, with my reasonings as usual!

These lists are still subject to change upon suggestion, so if you disagree with me giving something a certain move, or think I missed out on giving something a move, then please let me know!

Shadow End -

Reasoning

Had to be pretty careful with distribution here, since this move is so strong while also having 100% accuracy, so it's mostly limited to slow things or midspeed things whose Attack stats aren't that high, particularly giving it to things that get Superpower in later gens. G-Luke included all the mons that originally got it in their suggestion distribution, but most of them felt a little too strong for it while I didn't feel like Exeggutor fit (because I gave it Shadow Storm instead), so I only kept Rhydon (who I was debating on since it already has Shadow Break but it should be fine) and Manectric, with the latter having it as a weird mixed option, which I think is neat. The fastest pure physical attacker I let have this was Spearow, who's basically a bootleg Staraptor now (but like how Staraptor plays in singles and not doubles lol), being a tactical nuke and not much else. The highest Attack mon with this move is Absol, currently giving it the record for having the strongest Shadow-type attack in the game, which should make it quite usable along with getting Shadow Blitz earlier. Other highlight mons with it are Zangoose, who has good stats but has always been a worse Tauros (and also worse than other worse Tauroses like Kangaskhan and Slaking) so this gives it something, and weather abusers in Relicanth and Victreebel.

Shadow Storm -

Reasoning

Basically kept my suggested distribution the same, mostly giving it to the Special Attackers that are a tier below the ones that got Shadow Rave and Wave. Most notable mons here are probably Shiftry, Goldusk, and Exeggutor as weather abusers, and Gardevoir for having the strongest one in Standard, and Mewtwo, as a big buff for it in GS Cup.

Shadow Panic -

Reasoning

Probably the most important distribution I've had to do so far, since being able to fit Protect on a Shadow Pokemon should be a luxury. Mostly gave it to two groups of mons, being super frail things and bulky mons outclassed by other bulky options. The latter is fairly obvious, since now being able to fit Protect on support sets gives them a reason to be used as your answer to Shadows over something more standard, while the former is to allow your extremely frail Shadow mons stay alive longer, since even resisted Shadow moves might chunk them. The highlights here are Togetic as a Follow Me user that can redirect single target Shadow moves to itself, Steelix having something over Metagross aside from just an Electric immunity now (its STAB EQ isn't even stronger than Metagross', it's so sad), Wailord since it can heal itself to make Water Spout stronger, and Wobbuffet, since it having Protect now takes Perish Trap from kinda a meme to kinda real if you're skilled enough with it (or play against me, I am so bad at playing against perish in Gen 9...).

Slate 5 now!

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Slate 5 - Shadow Mist, Shadow Down, Shadow Hold​

This next slate (as well as the next one) features entirely moves that were Status moves in XD, being Shadow Mist, Shadow Down, and Shadow Hold!

I've put some notes below to help you make submissions for Shadow moves:
- Remember that every Shadow Pokemon must run all of the Shadow moves they can learn and that every Pokemon will learn at least 2 Shadow moves. Thus, try to avoid making redundant Shadow moves, in case they are both given to the same mon, and think about whether it would be worth giving a Pokemon that already learns 2 Shadow moves an additional one.
- In Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, all non-signature physical Shadow moves are single-target attacks and all non-signature special Shadow moves are spread moves. Keeping this distinction is not a requirement, but is something to consider.
- Shadow moves are super effective against all non-Shadow Pokemon, but don't give the user a STAB boost. Keep this in mind when deciding how strong they should be.
- The Shadow Pokemon mechanic will be a powerful offensive tool, so keep that in mind when giving moves you make strong to already good Pokemon.
- Click here to see Orre Colosseum's Viability Rankings to see what's already strong.
- If you need a reminder of Gen 3 or Orre Colosseum's mechanics, click here to go to this thread's OP.
- If you need a reminder of what the mechanics of Shadow Pokemon are, you can see them below or in the spreadsheet.

Going for something very out there but still faithful to the games (cause they're my favourite Pokemon games)

Shadow Pokemon Effects

• Moves: All Shadow Pokemon learn at least TWO Shadow moves (and can learn a max of FOUR, all of which are default/Lv1 moves). All Shadow moves the Pokemon has available to it must be included in the moveset (so some mons have one legal moveset).
• Type Chart: Attacking moves are always 2x super effective on non-Shadow Pokemon, and 0.5x effective on Shadow Pokemon, but Shadow is not a Pokemon's type and so there is never STAB. Moves can be physical or special, decided on a per-move basis.
• Availability: Any mon that has a Shadow move in its moves is a Shadow Pokemon (keeping in mind how moves work). On its first switch in, there is a message identifying it as a Shadow Pokemon (akin to Terapagos' ability). There isn't a limit on the number of Shadow Pokemon on a team.

The moveset limitation seems interesting to build around and can let us create some very interesting move distribution. A Shadow mon is obviously powerful offensively, giving it near-perfect coverage in one move (which can offset it not getting STAB). Defensively, resisting Shadow is a huge benefit (since there's no STAB, the BP does all the heavy lifting). How moves adapt to this could be interesting as well - the more Shadow moves a Pokemon gets, the less slots for other moves it can run, which could make some unable to run Protect, Fake Out and other meta relevant moves, and so the moves it would get to run would need to be designed around that.

Soo Yoshi left a comment:
For attackers, making it a Shadow (instead of a regular mon) opens up perfect coverage in a single move slot (2x effectiveness vs everything will hit harder than a STAB attack). Depending on its ability to run boosting moves (if it has less than 4 Shadow moves), it could end up snowballing quick. Something like CB Tauros would also be a very scary Shadow mon since it's locked to one move anyways, and this move would have 2x effectiveness on everything.

On defense, the key value is resisting Shadow attacks from the above attackers. It's probably a requirement to have at least one just to be able to switch into Shadow attacks (since being a Shadow effectively quarters damage from Shadow attacks compared to regular mons). Something like Metagross or Arcanine, which have a lot of defensive value already, could benefit from this, especially if their Shadow movepool lets them still run options like Protect. While Shadow attackers don't really get to use their offensive typing, defenders do, and so defensive answers with good typings can get a lot of value from also resisting Shadow attacks.

I have also included the original versions of each of the slated Shadow moves, in case you need inspiration:

Shadow Mist in XD

Name: Shadow Mist
Power: --
Accuracy: 100%
PP: N/A (Shadow moves didn't have PP in the original games, but they will here)
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Lowers the foe(s)'s Evasion by 2 stages. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Distribution:

Shadow Down in XD

Name: Shadow Down
Power: --
Accuracy: 100%
PP: N/A (Shadow moves didn't have PP in the original games, but they will here)
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Lowers the foe(s)'s Defense by 2 stages. Hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Distribution:

Shadow Hold in XD

Name: Shadow Hold
Power: --
Accuracy: 80%
PP: N/A (Shadow moves didn't have PP in the original games, but they will here)
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Traps the foe(s). Hits all adjacent opponents.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Distribution:

And lastly, below is the template for making Shadow move submissions, as well as the rules for making subs:

Template & Example Moves Submission

Blank Template
Name:
Power:
Accuracy:
PP:
Category:
Type:
Effect:
Priority:
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound):
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification:

Template With Explanations
Name: [Name of the move]
Power: [Base Power of the Move]
Accuracy: [Accuracy of the Move. Has to be a multiple of 5]
PP: [Power Points of the Move. Has to be a multiple of 5]
Category: [Physical, Special, or Status - Note that offensive Shadow moves are allowed to be either Physical or Special]
Type: [Type of the Move]
Effect: [What the move does. Can be a secondary effect or an inherent effect like Throat Chop's. Also include whether or not the move is a spread move]
Priority: [The priority bracket of the move. The standard priority of a move is 0]
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): [Specify which flags the move has. A full list can be found here.]
Potential Pokémon With This Move: [List a few Pokémon that could learn this move. The council ultimately decides what Pokémon get what moves, but we'll generally use the same list]
Justification: [Explain what purpose this move would serve]

Example Move Submission
Name: Shadow Sky
Power: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 5
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Summons Shadow Sky for 5 turns, a weather that damages all non-Shadow Pokemon for 1/8 of their max HP at the end of every turn. Weather Ball becomes 100 BP and Shadow-type.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): N/A
Potential Pokémon With This Move:

After Slate 1 - Adding Shadow Moves (5 Days per slate)
After we decide how our Shadow Pokemon mechanic works, we'll then adjust every Shadow move from XD: Gale of Darkness to fit a PvP setting and make them fit better into whatever our Shadow mechanics are. 3 Shadow moves will be slated each slate for you to sub changes to, for a total of 6 slates for all 18 original Shadow moves, plus any additional slates if deemed necessary. Submissions should follow the template in the spoiler tag below and be balanced for the Orre Colosseum metagame (taking our Shadow Pokemon mechanics into account), as the council reserves the right to veto any submissions deemed broken, uncompetitive, or uncodeable. Shadow moves should generally follow the same idea of their original versions, but they don't need to. You can only make 1 submission per move slated.

This slate will be open until Saturday, January 10th.

See you soon!

 

[Ayecrusher King]

Name: Shadow Mist
Power: 60
Accuracy: 100
PP: 24
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Resets all positive stat changes of the target to 0. If Shadow Sky is active, this move always crits and hits all adjacent foes.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect, Wind
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Originally, it was Air Cutter with Haze-like effects in Shadow Sky, but following comments on it being maybe slightly weak it's been amped up to the modern Frost Breath BP that always clears your positive boosts and a sorta-pseudo Expanding Force in Shadow Sky instead. Distribution's based on if they have sharp wings, a haze like body, or Spheal.

Name: Shadow Down
Power: --
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 16
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Lowers the target's highest non-HP stat (Calculation is the same as Beast Boost.) by two stages; if the target is a Shadow Pokemon, that stat is lowered by three stages instead.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Distribution:
Justification: Inverse precision Acupressure, amped against fellow Shadows.

Name: Shadow Hold
Power: 70
Accuracy: 95
PP: 8
Category:

Type: Shadow
Effect: Prevents the target from fleeing or switching out and has 25% recoil if it successfully damages the target. At the end of each turn, either the target's Defense or Special Defense is lowered by one stage, depending on which stat is higher. (Same calculations as Download) If the user switches out, the target will be freed and the effect will end.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Contact, Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: Slightly nerfed Submission + Octolock. I keep getting the image of a chokehold for this move.

 

[Eris250]

Name: Shadow Down
Power: --
Accuracy: 100%
PP: 20
Category:

Effect: Lowers a foe's Special Attack by 2 stages.
Priority: 0
Flags (ex: Contact, Sound): Protect
Potential Pokémon With This Move:
Justification: This is meant to be a Special Attack counterpart of Charm, a support move.
This is my first submission, sorry if it's not very good