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NOC Everchanging Mafia - Game thread - Day 3!

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Celever said:
Bliz if I change my vote don't hate me there's still 2 and a half hours left lol
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I'm not super invested in Miyami getting lynched specifically, really just invested in me/one of my strongest town reads not getting lynched lol

I do think there are other better options ultimately. Even if Miyami doesn't flip tho I do think we will legitimately learn a lot from the wrangling in an ECat-Bliz-Miyami-Vishy split where all four wagons actually seem viable and have people actively sticking to them
 
Celever said:
you prob should criticise it when you see it though lol

if someone acc makes an argument or case that's incoherent it's usually bc it's agendaed
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I mean sure but i don't know that it's productive to specifically call out by name nearly the entire playerbase when it's just as easy to disregard circular reasoning when you see it, note who did it mentally, and move on to meatier posts lmao
 
LonelyNess said:
I mean sure but i don't know that it's productive to specifically call out by name nearly the entire playerbase when it's just as easy to disregard circular reasoning when you see it, note who did it mentally, and move on to meatier posts lmao
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you're seeing something we're not though so point it out publicly lol

if someone's argument is coming off as circular to you, at minimum you should press them for further details so that you can get insight into what they were trying to mean
 
Peum said:
So you're suggesting that the ones giving the most input to the thread are the ones most likely to be mafia? This is not only viewing it as a perspective of town-wanna-lose mentality but also helps mafias views by suggesting to kill the most active people so that there isnt as much people talking every day, and in short giving mafia less chances to reveal themselves. What happened with the "Votes reveal mafia" perspective of yours? Why did you change your mind so quickly and why are you supporting pro-mafia strategies?
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I’ll clarify this so you understand it going forward.

I don’t know if it’s because of my communication skills, which maybe still have some room for improvement, but constantly (mainly on your part), there are a lot of accusations that I’m contradicting myself or saying things that don’t fit with what I said before. I’ve never felt that way; I feel like you read what I say very quickly and only take in about 50% of it. (I should write less per message ig)

^ That’s what I hope is happening, but I can’t rule out that you’ve gotten used to throwing a lot of ragebait at me. I wanted to clarify this because it’s possible that in the not-too-distant future I might start ignoring your messages a bit or not giving them much importance (as I have been doing a bit already at the end of D1). This time, I’ll respond to you.

Regarding your questions:
yes, I still believe that voting patterns are excellent material to study for identifying mafia. I’ve never changed my opinion on that.

Second, I want to explain that in my message I was not saying: talking a lot = scum. In my message, I explain that dismissing other people’s opinions and locking yourself into a single way of seeing things, without leaving room for other theories or POVs, seems unproductive for town development. I think there should be multiple paths in case the one we’re following is the wrong one (for example, with the Evie quote I mentioned in my previous message, and this message of yours now).

Peum said:
im suggesting that those two suck at voting
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Finally, you said that I’m suggesting targets for the mafia. I don’t think that in any universe the mafia was going to kill Des or VishyFishy tonight, BUT I did reveal the best targets.
 
ElectricityCat said:
^ That’s what I hope is happening, but I can’t rule out that you’ve gotten used to throwing a lot of ragebait at me. I wanted to clarify this because it’s possible that in the not-too-distant future I might start ignoring your messages a bit or not giving them much importance (as I have been doing a bit already at the end of D1). This time, I’ll respond to you.
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Yes ignoring me would be very convenient for you wouldnt it
 
Votecount 2.5

Miyami~~~(4): Airc, vishy fishy, Celever, Blizihguh
ElectricityCat (3): Evie , Westcraft, Peum,
Blizihguh (3) , Dead by Daylight, phoopes
vishy fishy (3): Miyami~~~, des121, LonelyNess
Peum (2): pulsar512b, ElectricityCat

Not voting: a fairy, genisu

Less than 2 hours left of day 2!
 
Celever said:
phoopes solved last game correctly while I threw

I also just like, keep agreeing with him this game. he keeps agreeing with me. we keep agreeing.

and not in a forced way I feel like, half the time he posts it first, I forget what he says, and then come up with the thought later

I wanna ship his solve but his solve has both Bliz and Miyami in it anyway lmfao
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Open to changing my mind because yes after most recent events of today it’s hard for me to have Bliz and Miyami together based off how hard Bliz is pushing Miyami
 
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##Vote: Miaymi~~

just ISO’d and there’s not too much there… other than pushing vishy and des. Not a huge fan of that. I think I’d rather swap to her than stick with Bliz where I’m essentially on an island with DBD. (For the record I think DBD is town since I protected him last night, but I think the Miyami wagon has more trustworthy folks on it with the exception of self-preservation Bliz. But also if Miyami flips scum I can more reasonably assume Bliz is town too). So yeah let’s go with that
 
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