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These are my reads so far. In some cases, as I mention, I might need to look into things more to form a solid opinion. It’s not the best in the world, but at least so you know what I’m thinking at the moment.

Town:
ElectricityCat: I’m town.
des121: Des suspects vishy and bliz… I think she’s town.
Maybe town:
A fairy: I like her.

Neutral:
LonelyNess: Weird. He has normal participation, asks good questions, and his posts are coherent. I don’t see him as very scummy for now. He has an issue with vishyfishy, but I think it’s understandable, I’m doubting a bit as well.
Peum: Ultra annoying guy. I wish I had played with him on another occasion to get to know him better. If I base myself on what I saw on Day 1 and 2, I’d say he’s scum. Now that he stopped focusing on me and I can see what else he says, he seems at least minimally interesting.
Westcraft: He’s playing the new player role. I wouldn’t vote him for now, but I’d like to see him more involved.

Need more info but scumlean:
Dead by Daylight: The detective. He’s being intriguing as well; I still find him hard to read. He could be townlean too
phoopes: Very intriguing character. He’s always on the most popular wagon. I’d need to analyze him more.
vishy fishy: Maybe he’s involved in something more than just fishy business… he could easily be a mafia member, but I don’t see much benefit in voting him today.
pulsar512b: I agree with Peum that their appearances are very suspicious. I have to say I’m not surprised by Pulsar’s inactivity, in most games I’ve played, it’s always the same. But yesterday’s vote felt weird. With Pulsar it always happens to me that I don’t know if she is scum, but generally tshe always seem like a decent option to vote to move the game forward. I would like her to be more active in the games.
Genisu: As said before, I really don’t like anything he’s doing.
Blizihguh: CHAINSAW defender. On Day 2 it was impossible for me to vote him because he was the only one who didn’t want me dead. But I feel like I already returned the favor by voting Miyami when Celever almost swung to vote him. It wouldn’t surprise me that much if he wanted to silence him, Celever had him very much in his sights.

looks very scum to me:
AirC: I don’t know if it’s just my impression, but I saw him changing his opinion many times. He also seems very calm. He creates his own wagons that nobody follows and just stays there, Day 1 Miyami and Day 2 Pulsar. I don’t like that very much.
Evie: I don’t really like how she’s played this game. I still think the same as in my last reads post.

I’ll try to come back tonight (GMT-3). Things are a bit complicated for me right now (that’s also why these aren’t the best reads in the world).

I orderer the reads vertically, the top is the less scum to me.
 
AirC: I don’t know if it’s just my impression, but I saw him changing his opinion many times. He also seems very calm. He creates his own wagons that nobody follows and just stays there, Day 1 Miyami and Day 2 Pulsar. I don’t like that very much.
You’ve listed one thing thats towny, one thing thats nai, and one thing that’s kinda both
 
Responding to activity ping, two+ feet of snow where I am today so I’ve been doing a lot of shoveling lol

phoopes: Very intriguing character. He’s always on the most popular wagon. I’d need to analyze him more.
Literally not true, you had like 5 votes on you or something and I was not voting you haha I was defending you if ajyrhing
 
Ok I'm back from winning my league clash, and this is the post I come back to?
These are my reads so far. In some cases, as I mention, I might need to look into things more to form a solid opinion. It’s not the best in the world, but at least so you know what I’m thinking at the moment.

Town:
ElectricityCat: I’m town.
des121: Des suspects vishy and bliz… I think she’s town.
Maybe town:
A fairy: I like her.

Neutral:
LonelyNess: Weird. He has normal participation, asks good questions, and his posts are coherent. I don’t see him as very scummy for now. He has an issue with vishyfishy, but I think it’s understandable, I’m doubting a bit as well.
Peum: Ultra annoying guy. I wish I had played with him on another occasion to get to know him better. If I base myself on what I saw on Day 1 and 2, I’d say he’s scum. Now that he stopped focusing on me and I can see what else he says, he seems at least minimally interesting.
Westcraft: He’s playing the new player role. I wouldn’t vote him for now, but I’d like to see him more involved.

Need more info but scumlean:
Dead by Daylight: The detective. He’s being intriguing as well; I still find him hard to read. He could be townlean too
phoopes: Very intriguing character. He’s always on the most popular wagon. I’d need to analyze him more.
vishy fishy: Maybe he’s involved in something more than just fishy business… he could easily be a mafia member, but I don’t see much benefit in voting him today.
pulsar512b: I agree with Peum that their appearances are very suspicious. I have to say I’m not surprised by Pulsar’s inactivity, in most games I’ve played, it’s always the same. But yesterday’s vote felt weird. With Pulsar it always happens to me that I don’t know if she is scum, but generally tshe always seem like a decent option to vote to move the game forward. I would like her to be more active in the games.
Genisu: As said before, I really don’t like anything he’s doing.
Blizihguh: CHAINSAW defender. On Day 2 it was impossible for me to vote him because he was the only one who didn’t want me dead. But I feel like I already returned the favor by voting Miyami when Celever almost swung to vote him. It wouldn’t surprise me that much if he wanted to silence him, Celever had him very much in his sights.

looks very scum to me:
AirC: I don’t know if it’s just my impression, but I saw him changing his opinion many times. He also seems very calm. He creates his own wagons that nobody follows and just stays there, Day 1 Miyami and Day 2 Pulsar. I don’t like that very much.
Evie: I don’t really like how she’s played this game. I still think the same as in my last reads post.

I’ll try to come back tonight (GMT-3). Things are a bit complicated for me right now (that’s also why these aren’t the best reads in the world).

I orderer the reads vertically, the top is the less scum to me.
I won't even waste time saying what I think about it because like I could argue that something is wrong in everything you've wrote, so I'll just focus on my entry because I can fact check that easily.

- Changing opinion : I've tunneled on the same player since D1, apart from that yeah I change opinion that's what people do when they think
- He seems very calm : Ok? Idk know what that's supposed to mean
- He creates his own wagons : I mean yeah if I think somebody is scum I'll try to get them voted off
- That nobody follow : Did you forget we just voted off Miyami?
- And just stays there : Did you forget the attempt at flashwagon?
- Day 1 Miyami and day 2 Pulsar : I still tried to create a wagon on Miyami D2 (which worked yk since she got voted), the Pulsar vote was not my idea and it was not a wagon regardless

I litteraly can't find something right in what you said about me, and I can't imagine that's much better about anyone else, so idk if you're trying to spread random misinformation to make the most of not getting voted yesterday but if you don't please read thread
 
I got word back from Alice, consecutive means on consecutive days. You can't use Mayor back to back (D1 & D2), but you can use mayor again immediately after D2 (D1 & D3). Basically, the only way this is an issue is if the person you pass to dies. You can also use different actions on back-to-back nights, just not the same one.
 
If yall want me to place a vote to confirm I’m mayor in next vote count I can but in the meantime yeah there hasn’t been a ton of stuff since ECat’s inaccurate post. Which I reread and is even more inaccurate than at first glance lol

I’m still pretty sure ECat is town but just misplaying
 
As a bit of a preview, I can say that for the first time something Peum says actually makes a bit of sense to me. And I really don’t like Genisu’s attitude in this game at all, showing up to play for just 10 minutes a day, not really reading the posts properly, and arguing that he doesn’t do so because “this game is awful.”
mf pulling shit out of his ass, im taking 6 aps, playing more than you, and when have i said this game is awful?
 
Quick post before I have to go to a party lol

Peum, I voted Miyami because I thought ECat was unlikely to get lynched yesterday. Obviously they were high in the votals (I think leading) at the time but it was close and the town consensus seemed to be that they were probably town. Also, why are you voting pulsar? Is it just an activity thing? Like I said yesterday I think voting out inactive players is often much more likely to hit town; you do have to do it sometimes but I think on D3 and after two days of failing with that strategy we really need to move on.

DBD passing mayor onto one of my scumreads ;__; I am 100% certain that the optimal strategy for mafia in this game is to acquire mayor and then pass it to themselves, so I don't think this rules out DBD + Phoopes. In particular I think the best play probably looks like "get an easy mislynch early, try to position yourselves to get mayor, keep it for two days, and then give it to a townie who trusts you." I am not sure yet if that's how I read DBD's play so far tho. Will mull on it.

Also I 100% want to hear who gave tracker to des. I can see reasoning to do that as town or as scum.
mayor getting passed for 1 day seems useless when scum can just keep tracker or doc with them for an extra day and guarantee safety on their kills no? I can't say I see the logic behind this post
i guess he does have some really good like progression on miyami
miyami didn't have much content to progress on tbqh, not v
my poe atm outside of those two is ecat phoopes pulsar dbd so two of those i reckon
why is ecat still in your poe
After yesterday I think the chance of Pulsar being scum is near 80%, There was a general consensus on Pulsar not acting the way she does when she plays as town, Celever and I totally brought that up at the EoD yesterday, on my PoE (which you should read I dont think you have sorry if im wrong) I remarked things that Pulsar said that felt wrong, and Me, Celever and AirC were bringing up a Flashwagon at the EoD, which we tried to do. Now, tell me. If Pulsar was town, what would scum do in that scenario (Unless you think that both me and AirC were scum), try to go for the AFK townie so that Miyami keeps the suspicions for the later days or do you stay on Miyami so that she gets voted out and the heat runs cold. I think mafia decided not to switch to Pulsar due to Pulsar being mafia. And I had already some arguments to present why I thought Pulsar was scum, so that was the last thing that convinced me on Pulsar being scum.
I can't say I hate this logic by Peum
i still dont quite get the logic but its fine if you want to vote me out do it and lose again
:blobthumbsup:


DBD's posting is like a little weak and i feel like esp given hwo he acted last game it feels different so ##Vote: DBD
could you elaborate? not sure what difference you are voting me on
These are my reads so far. In some cases, as I mention, I might need to look into things more to form a solid opinion. It’s not the best in the world, but at least so you know what I’m thinking at the moment.

Town:
ElectricityCat: I’m town.
des121: Des suspects vishy and bliz… I think she’s town.
Maybe town:
A fairy: I like her.

Neutral:
LonelyNess: Weird. He has normal participation, asks good questions, and his posts are coherent. I don’t see him as very scummy for now. He has an issue with vishyfishy, but I think it’s understandable, I’m doubting a bit as well.
Peum: Ultra annoying guy. I wish I had played with him on another occasion to get to know him better. If I base myself on what I saw on Day 1 and 2, I’d say he’s scum. Now that he stopped focusing on me and I can see what else he says, he seems at least minimally interesting.
Westcraft: He’s playing the new player role. I wouldn’t vote him for now, but I’d like to see him more involved.

Need more info but scumlean:
Dead by Daylight: The detective. He’s being intriguing as well; I still find him hard to read. He could be townlean too
phoopes: Very intriguing character. He’s always on the most popular wagon. I’d need to analyze him more.
vishy fishy: Maybe he’s involved in something more than just fishy business… he could easily be a mafia member, but I don’t see much benefit in voting him today.
pulsar512b: I agree with Peum that their appearances are very suspicious. I have to say I’m not surprised by Pulsar’s inactivity, in most games I’ve played, it’s always the same. But yesterday’s vote felt weird. With Pulsar it always happens to me that I don’t know if she is scum, but generally tshe always seem like a decent option to vote to move the game forward. I would like her to be more active in the games.
Genisu: As said before, I really don’t like anything he’s doing.
Blizihguh: CHAINSAW defender. On Day 2 it was impossible for me to vote him because he was the only one who didn’t want me dead. But I feel like I already returned the favor by voting Miyami when Celever almost swung to vote him. It wouldn’t surprise me that much if he wanted to silence him, Celever had him very much in his sights.

looks very scum to me:
AirC: I don’t know if it’s just my impression, but I saw him changing his opinion many times. He also seems very calm. He creates his own wagons that nobody follows and just stays there, Day 1 Miyami and Day 2 Pulsar. I don’t like that very much.
Evie: I don’t really like how she’s played this game. I still think the same as in my last reads post.

I’ll try to come back tonight (GMT-3). Things are a bit complicated for me right now (that’s also why these aren’t the best reads in the world).

I orderer the reads vertically, the top is the less scum to me.
not to add to the pile but ECat you cannot be scumleaning over half of the game, and there are some holes in this logic wrt AirC
##vote bliziguh
this vote after saying "flip ECat" is interesting, not that I disagree with the vote itself but it runs contradictory to the prior post
 
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